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JAYNC -> how do you get rid of old glow fuel (8/4/2003 2:58:01 AM)
What do you do with old glow fuel that you cant burn anymore, LEGALLY, where do you bring it.

downunder-RCU -> how do you get rid of old glow fuel (8/4/2003 11:48:41 AM)
Just because it's old doesn't mean it's bad....you could be throwing away perfectly good fuel. Are you having problems with it?

JAYNC -> how do you get rid of old glow fuel (8/4/2003 12:28:17 PM)
well lets put it this way, I have had the lid off for over a year and its not even the same color as it was when I bought it. I just want to know what people do with old fuel.

DerFly -> Old Glow fuel ... (8/4/2003 4:30:46 PM)
... goes in my lawnmower.

downunder-RCU -> how do you get rid of old glow fuel (8/4/2003 8:52:29 PM)
Ohhhhhhhh...then it's probably got enough water in it to put out scrub fires :)

hauckf -> how do you get rid of old glow fuel (8/9/2003 2:20:46 AM)
How do you dispose of your trash? A landfill? A trash pickup service? Check with them. (In my city, we have a "hazardous material day" once a year. On that day, they'll take anything you have; oils, insecticides, paint, flammables, whatever.)

hauckf -> how do you get rid of old glow fuel (8/10/2003 2:08:12 AM)
JAYNC thought that my post about checking with whoever takes his trash was "smart a$$" (his description). It wasn't meant to be. Apparently it wasn't read in the same spirit that it was written. Sorry I tried to help JAYNC.

JWN -> how do you get rid of old glow fuel (8/10/2003 9:36:02 PM)
Old glow fuel makes wonderful weed killer. John

Sport_Pilot -> how do you get rid of old glow fuel (8/11/2003 9:40:46 AM)
Even if the lid's been off for a year then if the oil is in solution I would try it on the engine. The dye used in our fuels will change color with light and age. If it runs good use it, if not, well don't use it in your car. I don't even recommed using it in your lawnmower. It's not a good weed killer. Might be good for starting your charcoal grill though. I suspect adding a bit more nitro or using an Enya #3 plug would make this fuel usable.

JWN -> how do you get rid of old glow fuel (8/11/2003 8:38:37 PM)
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sport_Pilot Even if the lid's been off for a year then if the oil is in solution I would try it on the engine. The dye used in our fuels will change color with light and age. If it runs good use it, if not, well don't use it in your car. I don't even recommed using it in your lawnmower. It's not a good weed killer. Might be good for starting your charcoal grill though. I suspect adding a bit more nitro or using an Enya #3 plug would make this fuel usable. [/QUOTE] If the lid has been off for even a week in a part of the country with high humidity, forget it. There will be enough water in the fuel, methanol is hydroscopic, to make the fuel unusable. Adding nitro and a hotter plug will not remove the affects of the water. Also, it does in fact make very good weed killer. I have a weed free dirt road as proof :) Been there, done that for all of the above. John

Sport_Pilot -> how do you get rid of old glow fuel (8/11/2003 10:33:53 PM)
While the fuel is hydroscopic it will not pick up any moisture it is not in contact with. Methanol vapor is denser than air and will sit above the liquid, if there is not much airflow around the room then the worst that will happen is that the fuel will evaporate leaving a high percentage of oil. I have left the cap off of a gallon of fuel during the summer for about a month in Myrtle Beach SC. It ran fine, just had to add some methanol and nitro, it was obvious that the level had dropped almost an inch or so. I was mixing my on fuel at the time and had some extra meth and nitro. I have also added water to my fuel. About the best thing you can add to get rid of detonation in very high nitro fuels. It won't hurt anything to try it. And it doesn't even kill my grass when I spill it on the lawn. You must have weeds allergic to one of the ingrediants.

JWN -> how do you get rid of old glow fuel (8/11/2003 11:28:40 PM)
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sport_Pilot While the fuel is hydroscopic it will not pick up any moisture it is not in contact with. Methanol vapor is denser than air and will sit above the liquid, if there is not much airflow around the room then the worst that will happen is that the fuel will evaporate leaving a high percentage of oil. [/QUOTE] As the methanol evaporates, the empty space in the jug is replaced by air. In high humidity areas, this means water is coming into contact with the methanol left in the jug. [QUOTE] I have left the cap off of a gallon of fuel during the summer for about a month in Myrtle Beach SC. It ran fine, just had to add some methanol and nitro, it was obvious that the level had dropped almost an inch or so. I was mixing my on fuel at the time and had some extra meth and nitro. I have also added water to my fuel. About the best thing you can add to get rid of detonation in very high nitro fuels. It won't hurt anything to try it. [/QUOTE] If you've found something that works for you, great. But, having tried to run a couple of gallons of fuel in the past that had been left open, I'm not willing to try adding anything else to it. It's easier and less frustating for me to simply replace the entire jug. [QUOTE] And it doesn't even kill my grass when I spill it on the lawn. You must have weeds allergic to one of the ingrediants. [/QUOTE] I've had little problems with grass, but regular old weeds keel over in about 4 days after a little glow fuel drink ;) John

Sport_Pilot -> how do you get rid of old glow fuel (8/12/2003 12:01:04 AM)
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JWN As the methanol evaporates, the empty space in the jug is replaced by air. In high humidity areas, this means water is coming into contact with the methanol left in the jug. If evaporating the empty space is replaced by more methanol evaporating behind in, it would take some airflow across the jug to get air in it. In my case it was during the summer in a hot covered storage shed the fuel was in a 5 gallon plastic can similar to a 5 gallon bulk paint can, the heat made the pressure build and popped the top. However if during the course of a year there is likely to be some temperatures below its flash point where the vapor would contract pulling in a small amount of air. Even so this would be a small amount of air. Even a whole gallon of air would not contain to sufficiently contaminate the fuel. Air would have to be exchange on a continuous basis, but, it would not take much airflow to accomplish this. If you've found something that works for you, great. But, having tried to run a couple of gallons of fuel in the past that had been left open, I'm not willing to try adding anything else to it. It's easier and less frustrating for me to simply replace the entire jug. I'm not saying it's not contaminated (well actually all our fuel is, just not enough), it very likely is. But, unless the water is causing the oil to separate out, it won't hurt to run it up on the ground. I've had little problems with grass, but regular old weeds keel over in about 4 days after a little glow fuel drink ;) You have a point, I have some Bermuda that keeps overgrowing and spreading into the landscaped areas. For some reason it takes two or three times the roundup to get rid of it. John [/QUOTE]

Jarsu -> To the original question... (8/12/2003 4:50:22 PM)
You can mix a small amount of your old fuel to new fuel without noticeable changes in performance. I guess something like 10% of the old fuel would be ok, at least worth trying.

jessiej -> how do you get rid of old glow fuel (8/13/2003 11:16:36 PM)
{You have a point, I have some Bermuda that keeps overgrowing and spreading into the landscaped areas. For some reason it takes two or three times the roundup to get rid of it. } Correct. Some of the grasses are quite hard to kill. Let me so much as carry a sprayer of Round Up within fifty feet of one of my wife's prized plants however and it keels over like it has been torched!

RJConnet -> Old Fuel (8/15/2003 4:35:10 AM)
A while back I dumped about half gallon of old helicopter fuel into my rotary lawn mower. It ran great but I had to put three bricks on it to keep it on the ground. :D :D RJ

maxtenet -> how do you get rid of old glow fuel (8/21/2003 4:59:36 AM)
Obviously, BarbeQue grill starter fluid. Works great. Max

mgreb -> how do you get rid of old glow fuel (8/24/2003 11:25:30 AM)
I use old fuel to prime my lawnmower. Starts first pull every time, and makes a wonderful cloud of smelly smoke.

cmarsden -> how do you get rid of old glow fuel (9/3/2003 4:45:11 AM)
mix it with some new fuel and then add some oil. It willmake great breakin fuel for th emotors we break in on the bench, you do break yours in right?

pisby -> how do you get rid of old glow fuel (9/3/2003 12:10:27 PM)
dump it on your ex... and light her on fire

elevator_up -> how do you get rid of old glow fuel (9/3/2003 4:56:27 PM)
Use it as a precleaner solvent for any really dirty/oily stuff, ie cleaning up lawnmower or auto parts. Then if you need you can cleanup to remove the oil film with a lesser cleaner. Just thinking, wonder if you can use it to soak an engine (without the heat), instead of antifreeze ?

jessiej -> how do you get rid of old glow fuel (9/3/2003 6:06:09 PM)
Just thinking, wonder if you can use it to soak an engine (without the heat), instead of antifreeze ? I prefer almost anything to antifreeze-it is such a deadly poison to animals and animals are attracted to it. I lost a beloved pet because I had drained a small amount of coolant from my truck. I had thought this was safe as the antifreeze was diluted and it was drained onto sandy ground. I was very wrong. Please be careful with the stuff. (I wonder if the non-toxic varieties perform the cleaning function as well?

JWN -> how do you get rid of old glow fuel (9/3/2003 8:09:14 PM)
I've used old fuel, that wouldn't run right in any engine, as cleaner for gummed up engines. It worked great. John

jjmiller1 -> how do you get rid of old glow fuel (9/4/2003 1:40:26 AM)
What? Starting your grill? I don't think I would cook with synthetic oil smoke. That reminds me of a guy I knew who used to cook meals for his family over chemically treated skid lumber. JJ

JWN -> how do you get rid of old glow fuel (9/4/2003 3:19:33 AM)
Sounds like Natural Selection in progress :) John

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