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    RE: GP Patty Wagstaff - Building & Flying - 8/6/2003 7:39:19 AM   
    ram3500-RCU



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    Status: offline     		Had the same problem with the stab. Mine was too loose from the get go. I simply slid the stabs into some clear silicon and wiped the excess off with alcohol. This formed a gasket that has not loosened up after about 60 flights.

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    RE: GP Patty Wagstaff - Building & Flying - 8/6/2003 7:45:04 AM   
    Maudib



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    Status: offline     		Now that's a great tip on the stab & silicone, thanks ram3500!


    Now about the tailwheel... I can't imagine going thru all the trouble to makeup that ganged pushrod system...

    I'm just going to use two springs running to both sides of the rudder horns...

    Is that pretty much what others have done?

    [QUOTE]Originally posted by ram3500
    Had the same problem with the stab. Mine was too loose from the get go. I simply slid the stabs into some clear silicon and wiped the excess off with alcohol. This formed a gasket that has not loosened up after about 60 flights. [/QUOTE]

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    RE: GP Patty Wagstaff - Building & Flying - 8/6/2003 7:58:45 AM  1 votes
    BasinBum



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    Status: offline     		The horizontal stab issue is very common. I used cloth tape as a shim but it is loosening up. Next I want to try innertube rubber or neoprene. The obvious permenant solution it to glue it but I want to keep mine removable. The silicon would probably be removable and possibly the best of both worlds.

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    RE: GP Patty Wagstaff - Building & Flying - 8/6/2003 8:12:53 AM   
    ChixwithTrix



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    Status: offline     		I am going to do the springs...the stock tail wheel setup looks horrendous IMO

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    RE: GP Patty Wagstaff - Building & Flying - 8/6/2003 8:30:58 AM   
    Volfy



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    Status: offline     		Do any of you fly the Patty off grass runways? How does the stock tailwheel do on grass? I agree it doesn't look too good, but maybe it works acceptably well?

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    RE: GP Patty Wagstaff - Building & Flying - 8/6/2003 9:32:59 AM   
    Stargazer



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    Status: offline     		I picked upthe Graphtec gear and tail wheel for mine so I'll be using the springs... Chix - I noticed that you are using regular servo arms, are you getting good throws with them? Can you get the High rates as per the manual? - You did download the manual right??

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    RE: GP Patty Wagstaff - Building & Flying - 8/6/2003 9:42:32 AM   
    ChixwithTrix



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    Nah...thats a pic right after I got the plane from the hobby shop. I wouldn't be caught dead with stock arms like that on my Patty...I have since put on Dubro heavy duty arms and reversed the way the arm faces...Instead of the arm facing up and having the pushrod diagonal I have the arm facing down with the pushrod strait from the arm to the horn.

    Yes I downloaded the manual...but I just quickly glanced over it

    Volfy-
    Once I fly the Extra it will be on a grass runway...but I don't know until then

    EDIT-
    The tail whell pushrod setup also adds some un-needed weight...not really much to fuss over...but if your a stickler for weight savings, I'd invest in a better tailwheel setup.

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    RE: GP Patty Wagstaff - Building & Flying - 8/6/2003 9:56:59 AM   
    ram3500-RCU



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    Status: offline     		I still use the stock tail wheel and fly off grass but I never used the stock rigging. Way too much brain surgery. Went to springs with the oem tail wheel. It needs to be bent back down occasionally. I intend to replace it with one a little stronger.

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    RE: GP Patty Wagstaff - Building & Flying - 8/6/2003 3:58:48 PM   
    Geistware



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    Status: offline     		The silicon/stab thing, did you put silicon on the tube itself and slid the stab on or did you put silicon in the joint?

    As far as the tail wheel, I removed part of the wheel bracket and mounted a 1-1/4 inch wheel. The one supplied is ridiculously too small!

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    RE: GP Patty Wagstaff - Building & Flying - 8/6/2003 9:19:33 PM   
    ram3500-RCU



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    Status: offline     		Giestware, I just put silicon on the roots and slid the stabs into it. Don't worry about what squeezes out because it wipes off with alcohol. If you want to insure that they are still easily removable, just use wax paper over the end of the stabs when you slide them in and let it set up like that. Old trick I've used on wing saddles for years.

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    RE: GP Patty Wagstaff - Building & Flying - 8/6/2003 9:26:34 PM   
    ram3500-RCU



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    Status: offline     		Alternate method is to substitute a little Vaseline on the root for the wax paper. I've had good success with this also and it makes it a little easer to wipe the excess off.

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    RE: GP Patty Wagstaff - Building & Flying - 8/6/2003 10:09:00 PM   
    Jaco



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    Status: offline     		Thanks for the silicon tip. Going to try it. I used a sullivan tailwheel assembly and it works great.

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    RE: GP Patty Wagstaff - Building & Flying - 8/6/2003 11:48:14 PM   
    Volfy



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    Status: offline     		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Geistware
    As far as the tail wheel, I removed part of the wheel bracket and mounted a 1-1/4 inch wheel. The one supplied is ridiculously too small! [/QUOTE]
    Geistware, that sounds like good idea to try. Do you have a picture of your setup?

    If it doesn't work out, I'll replace it with a CBA/Tatone leaf spring tailwheel bracket. I've used several of these on other planes. They may be a tad heavy, but man, are they indestructable! Chances are, I could use some tailweight anyhow, since I will be hanging a 60 Oz. Poulan 46cc on the nose, more than likely.

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    RE: GP Patty Wagstaff - Building & Flying - 8/6/2003 11:50:27 PM   
    DrDeath



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    Status: offline     		I put an Ohio Tail wheel on mine. Used springs to stear the wheel connected to the rudder horns. Works better than the stock one.

    Lee

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    RE: GP Patty Wagstaff - Building & Flying - 8/7/2003 1:36:55 AM