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RE: Horsepower War A Brewing!!! - 7/27/2011 6:41 PM   
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talking about how it handles with these twins and 50cc engines in it . Only seen a few baja with these big blocks that did not repeatly pop wheelies , fishtail and were totally out of control with these motors.


I do understand what you are saying. The videos I have been posting on the Pro 50 most of them have a plate on the back to keep them from doing much of a wheelie and or flipping over.

This is a 12hp BZM 40cc and in the video you can see the plate and he even bents it up some so he is able to do small wheelie.
http://s1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff463/chrisD20/?action=view¤t=SN201105.mp4

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RE: Horsepower War A Brewing!!! - 7/27/2011 6:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Don't get me wrong I am into racing but some guys are into raw hp and doing wheelie exhibitions and thats cool just not for me 46u I have been looking at those videos too thinking I was watching a 50cc BZM and just found out that , that motor in the video was a BZM 40cc!!

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RE: Horsepower War A Brewing!!! - 7/27/2011 7:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Those engines are very impressive but more then likely I will never have one unless some one gives me one for free. I am like you I prefer something that is race able. Unfortunately there are not any large scale tracks with in 400 or so miles of me any more. When I was racing my stock 26 with a good pipe was all I needed. I really miss racing and do to not having any tracks near by I might get out of large scale all together.

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RE: Horsepower War A Brewing!!! - 7/27/2011 7:13 PM   
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RE: Horsepower War A Brewing!!! - 10/6/2011 6:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just found out that this years ISC speed championship scheduled for November here in the USA has been canceled, too bad!!! I was looking forward to this years championships because of all the new unique and powerful 23-62cc single cylinder and twin cylinder engines on the market for large scale. I was expecting records to fall for the largescale class. Oh well guess I will have to wait for next year. But I have heard a rumor brewing that someone is considering making a LONG ROD for the 62cc Skopod motor and port work on the sleeve to make it turn more RPMS and put out more HP!! So the hp war is still brewing.

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RE: Horsepower War A Brewing!!! - 11/10/2011 11:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		ISC championship is back on !!! One day event!! Will be held November 13, 2011 in Fontana Calif. If it does not rain it should be really interesting.

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RE: Horsepower War A Brewing!!! - 11/10/2011 11:25 PM   
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ISC championship is back on !!! One day event!! Will be held November 13, 2011 in Fontana Calif. If it does not rain it should be really interesting.


What sort of system are they going to use to check the speed? Speed trap which is the best or cheap radar gun?

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RE: Horsepower War A Brewing!!! - 11/10/2011 11:39 PM   
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RE: Horsepower War A Brewing!!! - 1/1/2012 12:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		OBR has done it again!! In their attemp to offer a diversity of motors to meet your performance needs they have come out wit a 30cc 8.2 Hp FullMod reed case 4 bolt longrod engine!! And the horsepower war continues!

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RE: Horsepower War A Brewing!!! - 1/1/2012 12:52 AM   
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http://www.oneillbrothers.com/rc-car/reed/8-2hp-full-mod-tr-obr-4-bolt-long-rod-reed-case-long-block.html

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RE: Horsepower War A Brewing!!! - 1/1/2012 9:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks 46U for the price quote!! My development of the Ultimate Parking Lot Basher at a stand still waiting on the release of the Demon 2 speed for the MCD!! Starting to get impatience.

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RE: Horsepower War A Brewing!!! - 1/21/2012 4:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey fellows it just keeps gettting better and better !! A company called RCMAX is coming out with a new motor that is 70cc putting out an estimate 18hp. The motor is still in development estimated price about 1700.00

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RE: Horsepower War A Brewing!!! - 1/21/2012 5:15 PM   
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OBR has done it again!! In their attemp to offer a diversity of motors to meet your performance needs they have come out wit a 30cc 8.2 Hp FullMod reed case 4 bolt longrod engine!! And the horsepower war continues!


seems pricey to be out of steam at 15,000 rpm.

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RE: Horsepower War A Brewing!!! - 1/21/2012 9:08 PM   
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OBR has done it again!! In their attemp to offer a diversity of motors to meet your performance needs they have come out wit a 30cc 8.2 Hp FullMod reed case 4 bolt longrod engine!! And the horsepower war continues!


seems pricey to be out of steam at 15,000 rpm.

.................Yeah but this is not the finish product yet they are trying to get higher revs out of it . And with the torque and hp this motor is generating you should be able to gear it to the moon

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RE: Horsepower War A Brewing!!! - 1/21/2012 10:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		so thats a polini engine 70cc , thats awesome , have you also heard about syndicate racing they made a reed case aswell that looks like obr reed case , but ill be honest the syndicate reed case looks better nicer cnc machine work.

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RE: Horsepower War A Brewing!!! - 1/21/2012 11:36 PM   
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so thats a polini engine 70cc , thats awesome , have you also heard about syndicate racing they made a reed case aswell that looks like obr reed case , but ill be honest the syndicate reed case looks better nicer cnc machine work.

...............it has a polini head on it and a Redrace coil. Ray and Chris Dawson are the creators of this beast. Ray has had 10years managing Honda F1 engine facility.

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RE: Horsepower War A Brewing!!! - 1/21/2012 11:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		No better then what Honda does in F1 racing not sure if that is good or bad. If I am not mistaken they are not even running any more.

In my opinion anything over 4 to 7 HP is useless. No way in HELL would I pay more then $400 to $500 for a motor unless it was in something I can get into and drive. But that is just me.

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RE: Horsepower War A Brewing!!! - 1/22/2012 12:22 PM   
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In my opinion anything over 4 to 7 HP is useless. No way in HELL would I pay more then $400 to $500 for a motor unless it was in something I can get into and drive. But that is just me.


i feel you. $300 just for a case and anothe $200-300 for a head is too much. a PP 4 bolt zen can make 6HP with a stronger power curve and cost half as much.

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RE: Horsepower War A Brewing!!! - 1/22/2012 9:26 PM   
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No better then what Honda does in F1 racing not sure if that is good or bad. If I am not mistaken they are not even running any more.

In my opinion anything over 4 to 7 HP is useless. No way in HELL would I pay more then $400 to $500 for a motor unless it was in something I can get into and drive. But that is just me.

.............................When did I tell you guys to buy this motor?? All I am attempting to do is make you aware of whats new out there. Pick and select what you want and buy what you want. It is not the intention of this thread to tell you what to buy.

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RE: Horsepower War A Brewing!!! - 1/22/2012 9:27 PM   
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In my opinion anything over 4 to 7 HP is useless. No way in HELL would I pay more then $400 to $500 for a motor unless it was in something I can get into and drive. But that is just me.


i feel you. $300 just for a case and anothe $200-300 for a head is too much. a PP 4 bolt zen can make 6HP with a stronger power curve and cost half as much.

......................This is an expensive hobby speed cost.

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RE: Horsepower War A Brewing!!! - 1/22/2012 9:29 PM   
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In my opinion anything over 4 to 7 HP is useless. No way in HELL would I pay more then $400 to $500 for a motor unless it was in something I can get into and drive. But that is just me.


i feel you. $300 just for a case and anothe $200-300 for a head is too much. a PP 4 bolt zen can make 6HP with a stronger power curve and cost half as much.
[/quote...........Cost half as much ?? But is it very durable.

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RE: Horsepower War A Brewing!!! - 1/22/2012 9:43 PM   
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No better then what Honda does in F1 racing not sure if that is good or bad. If I am not mistaken they are not even running any more.

In my opinion anything over 4 to 7 HP is useless. No way in HELL would I pay more then $400 to $500 for a motor unless it was in something I can get into and drive. But that is just me.

.............................When did I tell you guys to buy this motor?? All I am attempting to do is make you aware of whats new out there. Pick and select what you want and buy what you want. It is not the intention of this thread to tell you what to buy.



I never said you did I was voicing my opinion and sorry you got your panties in a wad. When is to much HP for what a vehicle will with stand? So you buy a $1700 moor then spend at least another $1000 or more in up grading drive train then you still have a vehicle that is WAY to hard to handle. Been There done that This is a discussion forum and if you do not want others input do not post.

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RE: Horsepower War A Brewing!!! - 1/22/2012 9:48 PM   
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In my opinion anything over 4 to 7 HP is useless. No way in HELL would I pay more then $400 to $500 for a motor unless it was in something I can get into and drive. But that is just me.


i feel you. $300 just for a case and anothe $200-300 for a head is too much. a PP 4 bolt zen can make 6HP with a stronger power curve and cost half as much.

......................This is an expensive hobby speed cost.



Been in to RC for about 15 years and large scale for going on 5 so I know what it cost. Been into motorcycles none stop for 40 plus years! I once had a Chevy Vega I put a hop up 350 in and it was fast if you could control it. Even with up grades you never could get it where it could handle all the power. But what ever floats your boat.

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RE: Horsepower War A Brewing!!! - 1/22/2012 10:12 PM   
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No better then what Honda does in F1 racing not sure if that is good or bad. If I am not mistaken they are not even running any more.

In my opinion anything over 4 to 7 HP is useless. No way in HELL would I pay more then $400 to $500 for a motor unless it was in something I can get into and drive. But that is just me.

.............................When did I tell you guys to buy this motor?? All I am attempting to do is make you aware of whats new out there. Pick and select what you want and buy what you want. It is not the intention of this thread to tell you what to buy.



I never said you did I was voicing my opinion and sorry you got your panties in a wad. When is to much HP for what a vehicle will with stand? So you buy a $1700 moor then spend at least another $1000 or more in up grading drive train then you still have a vehicle that is WAY to hard to handle. Been There done that This is a discussion forum and if you do not want others input do not post.

.................I don't mind you expressing your opinion but I don't like being misquoted. And yes I know this is a disscussion form BUT I DID NOT SAY ANY WHERE THAT YOU OR ANYONE ELSE COULD NOT EXPRESS YOUR OWN OPINION BUT THAT SAME RULE APPLYS TO ME WHEN I DIS AGREE WITH SOMTHING SOMEBODY ELSE SAYS, OR YOU I CAN AND WILL EXPRESS MY OPINION TOO.

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RE: Horsepower War A Brewing!!! - 1/22/2012 10:17 PM   
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No better then what Honda does in F1 racing not sure if that is good or bad. If I am not mistaken they are not even running any more.

In my opinion anything over 4 to 7 HP is useless. No way in HELL would I pay more then $400 to $500 for a motor unless it was in something I can get into and drive. But that is just me.

.............................When did I tell you guys to buy this motor?? All I am attempting to do is make you aware of whats new out there. Pick and select what you want and buy what you want. It is not the intention of this thread to tell you what to buy.



I never said you did I was voicing my opinion and sorry you got your panties in a wad. When is to much HP for what a vehicle will with stand? So you buy a $1700 moor then spend at least another $1000 or more in up grading drive train then you still have a vehicle that is WAY to hard to handle. Been There done that This is a discussion forum and if you do not want others input do not post.

.................I don't mind you expressing your opinion but I don't like being misquoted. And yes I know this is a disscussion form BUT I DID NOT SAY ANY WHERE THAT YOU OR ANYONE ELSE COULD NOT EXPRESS YOUR OWN OPINION BUT THAT SAME RULE APPLYS TO ME I DON''T AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAY EITHER AND I LET YOU KNOW WHEN I DISAGREE.



Misquoted what the heck did I misquote you on????????????? You misquoted me as I never said you where telling me to buy it. As far as the guy building it working for Honda on F1 car motors is doing him a injustices as Honda never did very well in F1 racing and is why they no longer race F1. Sorry I got you all up set but I am sure you will get over it.

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