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RE: Hostetler Cessna 150/152 - 1/15/2013 7:14 PM   
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Today I started laying out the cable and pushrod routes before starting to sheet the fuselage. I fitted and wet a sheet for each side of the fuslelage where the pushrods and cables go and discovered how much of a PIA this is going to be. I looped some #64 rubber bands together and used straightened paper clips to fit the sheets to the formers and stringers. Almost need to hire a helper to assist in the wrapping of the sheets. Of course being a frustrated "ol fart doesn't help either. I guess I'm at the "take my time" stage and need to enjoy this more than I am right now. Geez, ain't scratch building fun??? Don't know what I'd do with out it though. Winters are long up here in northern Maine. Cheers and let's have a great year.
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RE: Hostetler Cessna 150/152 - 1/15/2013 7:27 PM   
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Might consider strip planking, takes longers and requires filling and more sanding but can be done by one person. I no longer have 4 hands anymore, down to two.
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RE: Hostetler Cessna 150/152 - 1/16/2013 1:22 PM   
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When I did my 195, I soaked the balsa in my bathtub. The balsa was then placed over the "corners" of the rear fuseage, and held in place by rubber bands.

I let the balsa, held in place, dry for a day. When the rubber bands were removed, the sheets retained the contours of the "corners", making them easy to glue in place.

As you say, it's best to have help. I didn't, so I did the top corners, the first day, and the bottom corners, the next.

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RE: Hostetler Cessna 150/152 - 1/17/2013 9:33 AM   
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Tom and Edwin,
I guess I was having a bad day when I posted that commentary. My sinus' have been acting up plus a ongoing pain in the shoulder blade area tends to be a litttle depressing especially when trying to sheet the fuselage. I used rubber bands, on the sheets, around the formers and sprayed with a mix of ammonia and water. That works well when you let it set a day before final gluing of the sheets. I have done the strip planking before and being one who hates sanding I try to stay away from that. If worse comes to worse I do it. All in all this has been a nice project and it's beginning to look like a plane now. Maybe pictures will come a little later.
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RE: Hostetler Cessna 150/152 - 1/17/2013 1:02 PM   
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Bad day? Your commentarty on the sheeting process sounded normal to me. That area is a pain to sheet. A little frustration is normal, even expected.

Letting it dry for a day is the hard part. If you're like me, you like to move faster than that.

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RE: Hostetler Cessna 150/152 - 2/1/2013 9:29 PM   
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I made an earlier post today, I thought, maybe I just emailed Tom. Anyways I got her all sheeted and now the sanding begins in earnest. Broke down and ordered me an Airtronics SD-10G today for her and all my gas birds. Will use the DLE-55 out of my PT-19 as I ordered another set of engine stand offs for the Cessna. I need to put zippers on my engines. Wearing them out swapping them around. I'll get some bare bones pictures soon and try to up load them as soon as the sanding is close to being done and I can put all the parts together.
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RE: Hostetler Cessna 150/152 - 2/2/2013 11:29 AM   
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Yup. You sent an email to me !

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RE: Hostetler Cessna 150/152 - 2/12/2013 5:12 PM   
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Well I discovered my first major, Boo-Boo today while working on the nav lights. When I ran the wires down through the fuselage and out the vertical fin I mut have gotten the cable ties to tight in the fuselage. I can't pull the slack out of the wires and dragging the beacon and rear nav lights behind the tail is a no no. Only alternative I have is cut a hole in the side of the stab and pull the wiring in between the ribs. What a bummer. But as I use to say when I was in the Air Force "Ain't no Biggie!"
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RE: Hostetler Cessna 150/152 - 2/17/2013 5:13 PM   
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hey Frank,
          nice build thread here...........MT

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RE: Hostetler Cessna 150/152 - 2/22/2013 1:39 AM   
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Hi! All

DO anyone have any pictures of sheeting the fuse, i'm at that stage with my 150 now and would like to see some pictures of how someone eles did this task. I'm having trouble trying to decipher the plans to cover the area between the door and back window.

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RE: Hostetler Cessna 150/152 - 2/22/2013 2:03 AM   
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On RCU do search for the Hostetler Cessna 182. There is a complete build thread with photos showing the sheeting process.
Saul.

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RE: Hostetler Cessna 150/152 - 2/22/2013 12:57 PM   
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Hi! All

DO anyone have any pictures of sheeting the fuse, i'm at that stage with my 150 now and would like to see some pictures of how someone eles did this task. I'm having trouble trying to decipher the plans to cover the area between the door and back window.

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If you start looking here, http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1005782&page=24 You will find two sheeted Cessna 195 fuselages. You don't actually see the sequence, but by careful study, you can see the individual sheets.

Both of us started at the "corners" and then filled in the blanks. We both installed one sheet at a time.

The "corners" were soaked in water, and rubberbanded in place. They were left to dry over night, before they were glued to the substructure.

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RE: Hostetler Cessna 150/152 - 2/23/2013 11:14 PM   
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Snowman000 and fellow builders. I hope I can post a few pictures which may help out and the engine cowl to show my dillema. The DLE-55 cylinder is tight to the cowling and I hate to open up the cowling but will have too. Hope the pictures help around the rear of the door and back window area. I promise to get better pictures as things progress. I'm trying to get the fuselage pretty close and then I'll do the wing and control surfaces sanding.
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RE: Hostetler Cessna 150/152 - 2/23/2013 11:21 PM   
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I forgot to mention that the rear window opening area where the gray box is setting is not suppose to be there. I boxed in that area and the gray box holds the reciever. I like to be able to see my bind light when I look for it without have to mess with opening doors and bending my neck. Yes, I'm a pain in the neck- I said that wrong, I have continious and wicked neck pain because of bone and muscle degeneration. Ain't no fun getting old.
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RE: Hostetler Cessna 150/152 - 2/24/2013 12:15 AM   
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Frank thank you so much for posting those pictures of your sheeting. It's extremely helpful. I'm at a point with my fuselage where I'm having difficulty determining exactly how to go about sheeting the rear part near the Rear window but your pictures are tremendously helpful. Would you be so kind as to also take pictures of the rear of the fuselage where the rudder and stabilizer are located as I'd like to see exactly how those areas are sheeted. Please post a picture of the top and bottom section of the rear fuselage. Also, have you started building the door yet? If so, would you be so kind as to post some pictures of exactly how you're building your door and also how you plan to sheet it. Thank you.
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RE: Hostetler Cessna 150/152 - 2/24/2013 6:24 AM   
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Hi Frank

Great job on the sheeting of the fuse, as Slevin stated in his post the pictures are a great help now i think i'm able to proceed with the sheeting on my fuse. I'm also impressed with the boxed in area @ the back window i think i will try it with my 150

I would also appreciate to see any other pictures of your build that you may of taken along the way.

Sorry about the neck pain and the problem with the cylinder head touching the cowl.

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RE: Hostetler Cessna 150/152 - 2/24/2013 10:59 AM   
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I didn't take to many pictures of the internals but here's a bunch of the build so far. I'll probably break these down in to two posts. All my sheeting that needed to be curve was done by wetting both sides of the sheet with ammonia and water then taping to a 3" floor post in the basement. A piece of PVC pipe about 4-5 foot long would work great for that also. At the tail feathers area I tried getting the sheets to taper as much as I could and then finished up with Elmers wood filler. It sand fairly easy and is cheaper than balsa filler. My doors are fairly thick but I want them to run the to terminate at the edge of the 3/16 balsa frame sides. You can see the hinge blocks from the back side(one on top is a little low) but hinge is fairly well hidden. I used Dubro giant scale hinges for the doors. Notice the floor boards- they hide the two elevator and one rudder servos amd I put the throttle servo under the dash area.

As I am building the Texas Taildragger the gear was move forward and I used B&B landing gear stiffner posts for the 1/4" music wire stiffner. Made the hatch to fit and stuck a 1/2'" magnet in it which sets tight to the music wire. Man it stiffened the gear up great.

I threw on a wing to so my unfinished tip and how it mates in the flap area. It's a pain shaping the curved piece over the back window to give the final flap shape clearance for 30-40 degrees of flap. I suggest getting the wing fitted, flap shaped the way you want it, and then shaping the fuselage top area to fit it. I would also completely finish the wings ( flaps installed ) before covering the fuselage in that area. At least that's my plan and that way if the inner edge of the curve shape fuselage top need more shaping you can do it before covering.

Hope this helps you some. One last thing- I promise to clean up my work area- one of these days.
Frank

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RE: Hostetler Cessna 150/152 - 2/24/2013 11:03 AM   
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Here's the rest on the pictures.
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RE: Hostetler Cessna 150/152 - 2/24/2013 2:34 PM   
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THANK YOU FRANK!!! Those pics are awesome. Sheeting of the fuse was the biggest sticking point and your pics have helped dramatically.
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RE: Hostetler Cessna 150/152 - 2/24/2013 3:40 PM   
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Glad I could help some. Tom Crump has helped me through my frustration stage and suggested some great ideas. I decided to go ahead and cut my cowling to fit the DLE-55 as I would have to do an awful lot of modifying to get the Zenoah mounted. I don't think the extra cuts look all that bad.
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RE: Hostetler Cessna 150/152 - 2/24/2013 4:31 PM   
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Thanks once again for the pictures, they are going to be a great help in the build, i was getting a little frustrated with the cessna build so i put it on the back burner for a while and i built a Super chipmunk. Now i'm back building the cessna and if i had these pictures at the time i don't think i would of stop the cessna build.

Great job on the cowl it looks factory, i think the 150 has a cut out in the same area for a landing light.

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RE: Hostetler Cessna 150/152 - 2/24/2013 7:00 PM   
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That's a Fiberglass Specialtilty cowl and they do good work. The landing lights go in just above the hole I modified. I didn't think they would fit there but have plenty of room to do so. I knew the frustration feeling but once you get thru that things tended to work out. Sometimes just sleeping on the problem helps. I reviewed a lot of pictures on www.airliners.net for a long time on some of the areas. Good luck on the sheeting.
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RE: Hostetler Cessna 150/152 - 2/24/2013 7:02 PM   
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Gosh, I forgot great looking Chipmunk. You do nice work.
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RE: Hostetler Cessna 150/152 - 2/24/2013 9:34 PM   
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Glenn, I like your motivation for this build !

I build on a door. I can't remember the name of the material that is on top of it, but the ''modern equivalent seems to be homasote, available at building supply houses


Edit: The name of the material on my building board is Cellotex.

i too have built on this stuff for 50 years. it takes and holds pins very well and lasts forever.

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RE: Hostetler Cessna 150/152 - 2/25/2013 12:20 PM   
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I decided to go ahead and cut my cowling to fit the DLE-55 as I would have to do an awful lot of modifying to get the Zenoah mounted. I don't think the extra cuts look all that bad.
FRank


We all would like to keep our engines totally inside the cowls. Most times, we have to bite the bullet, and cut them up. You did a nice job on yours. You have to look hard to see it, and the hole will aid in cooling.

Fred, my celotex finally gave up. I'd still have it, but I spilled too much CA, epoxy and paint on it, over the years. LOL

I now use homasote. It doesn't look like it will be quite as durable, but it does the job.

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