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RE: CAELESTIA NEW F3A 2011 - 8/25/2012 3:36 PM   
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Status: online 		Mine is almost ready to test fly...just checking incidences now. Unfortunately the right wing panel is at 0.8 deg and the left at 0.3.

Looks like I'll have to find a way to install adjusters before I fly it.

My finished weight with Shulze 32.80, Advance motor, significant gear re-inforcement, carbon spinner, light Falcon and TP 5000 is 4890gms...I have about 1.5" between the battery and motor for middle of the tube CG.

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RE: CAELESTIA NEW F3A 2011 - 8/26/2012 10:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just finished two days of flying my new Caelestia...finally!!

Started flying with my radio setup from my Xigris (ya I am lazy:-) and CG on the center of the wing tube as per others.. Some minor adjustments to ensure the stabs were identical and the elevator halves were perfectly aligned. I also lowered the batteries as low to the wing plane as possible... this made for very axial rolls. Tracking/trim flights went ok but I needed some more adjustment on the radio as my very small mixes that I had built in to my Xigris data created K/E tracking issues. ( maybe I was too lazy LOL) Took all the mixing out (ex up & down line) and was amazed at the K/E tracking....awesome! Dialed in some slight throttle/rudder mix for verticals and adjusted the down line throttle /elevator mix (plane goes to canopy... as they all seem to do)... and voila... one very happy pilot! This plane speeds along pretty good compared to my Xigris. Some more very minor trimming and snap condition setup and some prop combination testing to slow my flight speed down a tad and I'll be ready to go.. (Started with a 20.5x14.5 Falcon Light (too fast) then used a 21x14 Falcon Light but will be trying a Mejzlik 22x12 when it arrives from F3A Unlimited) . Got the Spin99 brake working well and down line speed control is strait forward. Really looking forward to the next couple weeks flying as our BCPA Championships go September 8th & 9th in Victoria. My fellow flyer Michi Akimoto (see picture) is also flying his Caelestia and we are both very pleased with it's performance. I am still trying to get used to the colors as it's a big departure from my "normal" schemes... a little variety is always good :-)

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RE: CAELESTIA NEW F3A 2011 - 8/26/2012 11:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Dave, this model is very 'slippery' and definitely doesn't need a prop with high pitch. I started with the Falcon 20.5x14.5 and 30% brake (the most the CC will do without its trademark "screech") and it really accelerated on downlines. Switched to the PT 20x13 and downlines improved noticeably, and with a Mejzlik 20.5x12W I think (well, hope!) it will be spot-on. Also waiting on that prop from F3AU. I like the CG back a smidge, toward the back of the wing tube. It has taken me a while to figure things out, but really starting to get comfortable with the Caelestia.

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RE: CAELESTIA NEW F3A 2011 - 8/27/2012 3:15 PM   
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Status: online 		Test flown mine yesterday with the Falcon 21.5X13 and really liked the speed control...not sure if it's the Shulze, the prop or the motor but with this combination it is amazingly easy to manage the speed.

I started with the wing set at 0.6 degrees ( I did add adjusters) and the CG at the middle of the tube. After 4 flights I moved the battery back about 1/2 inch. I still don't feel like it's locked in on 45s so I may try a bit more incidence.

This plane seems to need no pitch or roll mix, rolls, snaps and spins very well. It also weather vanes significantly less than the Xigirs...I'll actually have to fly the cross wind corrections.

I still have to add the tips...what was that stuff Chad used to make the rails so that the tips are removeable?

Update:

I've now flown it with the tips and there is a difference...the wing feels a little more stable even as the plane slows down. The incidence was increased to 0.7 deg and the CG moved forward to the the middle of the tube...right where Chad told us to put it. I have 1% nose up with left rudder and 0% for everything else except the usual downline mix. I have basically copied Chads deflections and backed off the Ailerons a little in snap rate as my reflexes are just not fast enough to stop the snap exactly where I want it....particularly in the 1/4 - snap - snap - 1/4...that's a very fast snap.

Colin

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RE: CAELESTIA NEW F3A 2011 - 8/27/2012 9:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		It was Evergreen Scale Models part # 294 - 1/8th angle stock.



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RE: CAELESTIA NEW F3A 2011 - 8/31/2012 4:14 PM   
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Status: online 		Wow that stuff seems CA resistant...just would not stick!

Going to try some fresh foam safe CA next...what did Dave and Chad use to glue the rails with?

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RE: CAELESTIA NEW F3A 2011 - 8/31/2012 4:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Roughed it up with 100 grit and then medium CA!


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RE: CAELESTIA NEW F3A 2011 - 8/31/2012 5:09 PM   
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Status: online 		Ahhh...sometimes I forget the 'basics'.

Thanks.

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RE: CAELESTIA NEW F3A 2011 - 9/21/2012 9:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hello to all
I attach some pictures of my Caelestia, tested a few weeks ago.
From the photos you can see the new position of landing gear (lower than the original), the addition of an inside plate in rear position and the new position of motor batteries and servo tray, very low!
This position was chosen to improve the roll of the model as I had tested on my WindS.
In flight, the model is very slow and "easy" to use.
I put the CG a little ahead of the wing tube, to adapt it to my style of flying.
I was very surprised because the model needs a few of mix to fly and is very neutral even in inverted flight.
I really like the trajectories and rounding that the model can do.
Also the spin and all integrated figure result very clear and precise.
Snap rolls are very beautiful and easier to stop than my precedent model.
The rudder is very efficient , this is very good especially in the F program.
So the feeling with the model is very good and I am very happy, I hope to do well with it in the next Italian F3A Championship.

A.Villa

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RE: CAELESTIA NEW F3A 2011 - 11/7/2012 8:18 PM   
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Continue the fly of Our Caelestia,(my and my son pilot)and after every fly i am very full satisfied as the airplane flies....
very very well: we can test some monouvre very critical for P13 and F13 program and the model
flies without any problem!, we have installed some little device on it ,to improve more the already exelent flying characteristics, taking into account our past experience with other models,shortly will be post the pictures.
I think no need to spend lots of money for buy other modell more expensive,that fly same or certainly not better than Caelestia!
(it is not only an opinion, believe me)
Thank you Jp we are very happy by Caelestia and we think to have a very good aircraft for next F3A Italian Championship.
Thanks
Alberto

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RE: CAELESTIA NEW F3A 2011 - 11/8/2012 5:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		New planes arrived today ....
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RE: CAELESTIA NEW F3A 2011 - 11/9/2012 1:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Excellent work with the landing gear modification. This model really needs a bit more ground clearance for the propeller.

I plan to do such a modification this winter, but I am sure it will not be as professional looking as yours!



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RE: CAELESTIA NEW F3A 2011 - 3/28/2013 7:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Finally found motivation to modify the landing gear, with some hope that this endless winter will finally yield to some warmer weather in the next couple of weeks.

I didn't want to take any chances with prop clearance so I moved the gear plate exactly 1.5 inches down from the original position. Plenty of clearance now, even for a 22-inch prop.

The gear plate is made from laminated 5-ply AC for a total of 10 plies, with 1/8-inch CF nomex honeycomb for the crutch support. I reconfigured the battery tray farther up on the formers and decided the whole structure was rigid and strong enough to remove the original cross pieces at the top. Much less hassle for battery access.

Some epoxy with microballoons, backed up with FG cloth, was used to fill the (previously-damaged!) fuse slots for the original gear position. I will sand, prime and paint those later when the weather warms up, but for now the model is ready to fly.



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