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spylinker 1500mW system - 8/25/2003 1:11:46 PM   
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1.2ghz isn't all bad.... It just has to transmit between 1240mhz, and 1300mhz to be legal for HAM operation.

The 2.4 are not all good ones either.... They have to transmit between 2300mhz-2310mhz or 2390mhz-2450mhz...

Power output can be up to 1500watts (with exceptions)

Above 960 mhz, The part 15 power limit is 500 microvolts/meter @ 3meters, or about 1 mw. I have seen 2.4 spread spectrum devices at 1 watt that were FCC approved without a license, but who knows where that one falls into the picture.

Just in case you come across 900mhz stuff, it has to be between 902-928mhz.


It's not like I just know all this stuff, and I might be wrong in some cases, but the information is easily found at the below links.
(easily found, not so easy to interpret)

[URL=http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/regulations/Hambands_color.pdf]band chart pdf[/URL]
[URL=http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/regulations/rules-regs.html]rules link with part 15 link too[/URL]

And to follow up on my last soap box, 18,000' to 60,000' is class A , a Positive Controlled Airspace that covers 48 states and alaska and 12 miles beyond the coastline. To fly an aircraft (device hehe) in a class A airspace, the following has to be done:
1. Clearance from ATC.
2. Two-way radio communication with ATC.
3. A working Mode C transponder.
Any deviation must be submitted in
writing at least 4 days before the proposed operation.

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spylinker 1500mW system - 8/25/2003 8:03:00 PM   
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quote:

I have seen 2.4 spread spectrum devices at 1 watt that were FCC approved without a license, but who knows where that one falls into the picture. [/QUOTE]That would be a digital spread spectrum data device. Using freq hopping, average power is near-zero. To date, I have not seen anything in that category that would easily adapt to our application.

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spylinker 1500mW system - 8/26/2003 8:01:29 AM   
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It's great to see so many people concern about FCC and FAA and Amateur radio regulation in a HOBBY FORUM.
Here the thing was if the Spylinker was a good system, good image for an airborne system.
Now have you guys ever thought that EVEN this forum is seen from people all over the world and not only USA and CANADA???? I live in Costa Rica, I DO have a Ham radio license (TI2NF) and my ONLY concern IS if the system is worth buying or not.... I DO NOT CARE OF ANY REGULATIONS AT ALL. The point is clear enough even for a retard... it is not legal in the USA OK we all got it, not legal period....
Now did anyone test the blessing camera? Has any one a Video done with the system? Could any one post some video links????
THANKS FOR UNDERSTANDING,
No offense to anyone, I understand that the legal part is important but it isn't all there is...an example is that we all know that in any place in the world there are speed limits... and it is illegal to go past them.... that is why there are always big fast cars that can go past 200mph and a lot of people still buy them.... same thing with camera system... think about it...

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spylinker 1500mW system - 8/29/2003 12:37:21 AM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by norbe
I live in Costa Rica, I DO have a Ham radio license (TI2NF) and my ONLY concern IS if the system is worth buying or not.... I DO NOT CARE OF ANY REGULATIONS AT ALL. The point is clear enough even for a retard... it is not legal in the USA OK we all got it, not legal period....
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Sorry norbe, but every time I see post from USA user asking "how good is Spylinker system" I will reply "illegal".

Hope the stress of seeing posts does not cause you too much discomfort.

Happy Flying
David

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spylinker 1500mW system - 9/2/2003 9:14:37 AM   
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I just got the skylinker 800mw 1.2Ghz high Frequency color camera. I have only installed it in the plane, but from what i see on the ground it’s an awesome color camera. Low light situations suck, but great for outside. I will be test flying it (to find a plane I lost) this week if the weather clears up. I will try to record the flights but I don’t know if I can score a digital camcorder. But I will post results this week.
Now for my $.02 worth no the legality of 1.2 ghz and the fines. Do ya really think that the FCC will fine somebody $10,000, that thought it would be cool to install a little wireless camera and video record his flight? I don’t think so! The key words are fine up to $10,000. That means you can get a "no no” and a tap on the wrist, or the max $10,000. Its most likely if you do get caught, "they" might take "whatever" equipment and tell you to tell all of your friends that 1.2 ghz is a restricted band and ARE NOT to transmit on it, Then again I could be wrong. . My rule would be: around airports and other obvious places 1.2 is a no no, out in the middle of a cornfield w/ nothing around for 80+ miles...so so. I'm going to take that chance! pirate:

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spylinker 1500mW system - 9/2/2003 10:14:10 AM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by snuff
I just got the skylinker 800mw 1.2Ghz high Frequency color camera. I have only installed it in the plane, but from what i see on the ground it’s an awesome color camera. Low light situations suck, but great for outside. I will be test flying it (to find a plane I lost) this week if the weather clears up. I will try to record the flights but I don’t know if I can score a digital camcorder. But I will post results this week.
Now for my $.02 worth no the legality of 1.2 ghz and the fines. Do ya really think that the FCC will fine somebody $10,000, that thought it would be cool to install a little wireless camera and video record his flight? I don’t think so! The key words are fine up to $10,000. That means you can get a "no no” and a tap on the wrist, or the max $10,000. Its most likely if you do get caught, "they" might take "whatever" equipment and tell you to tell all of your friends that 1.2 ghz is a restricted band and ARE NOT to transmit on it, Then again I could be wrong. . My rule would be: around airports and other obvious places 1.2 is a no no, out in the middle of a cornfield w/ nothing around for 80+ miles...so so. I'm going to take that chance! pirate:
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A digital camcorder isnt needed. An analog such as Hi-8, 8, or even VHS-C (ugh!) is doable so long as it has an analog AV input.
My videos were recorded using both digital 8 and Hi-8 and the only real difference I have seen is a little line at the top or bottom of the screen for the Hi-8 and I think that is only visible during editing. Any video on my site that shows the date on the screen was shot by my father's Hi-8. We routinely dub what we each shot back and forth between camcorders at the end of a flying session.
It has also been my experience, with whatever frequency a wireless video system is operating on, that if you mount the rx up on a pole or mast, the higher the better, the signal reception improves quite a bit.

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spylinker 1500mW system - 9/2/2003 7:50:33 PM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by snuff
. My rule would be: around airports and other obvious places 1.2 is a no no, out in the middle of a cornfield w/ nothing around for 80+ miles...so so. I'm going to take that chance! pirate: [/QUOTE]

Must.... resist... responding....

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spylinker 1500mW system - 9/2/2003 11:39:36 PM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by closetflyer
Must.... resist... responding.... [/QUOTE]
Just light some incense...
Ooommmmm....... Ooommmm.....

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spylinker 1500mW system - 9/4/2003 3:12:52 AM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by closetflyer
Must.... resist... responding.... [/QUOTE]whatever.....looser!!!!!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Fubar-One
A digital camcorder isnt needed. An analog such as Hi-8, 8, or even VHS-C (ugh!) is doable so long as it has an analog AV input.[/QUOTE] I was talking about putting the video on the net. i dont have any way to upload any vhs onto my computer and i am not going to buy anything to only use once. but thanks

for all who care (shut-up closetflyer looser, start another thread if you want to talk about the illegal stuff), i tested the camera out and it works awesome!!! watching on a 13" color tv, clear pic and only a few fuzzy lines now&then on sharp turns. I give this a A++.

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spylinker 1500mW system - 9/4/2003 3:30:03 AM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by snuff
whatever.....looser!!!!!

For all who care (shut-up closetflyer looser, start another thread if you want to talk about the illegal stuff),
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Too funny!

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spylinker 1500mW system - 9/4/2003 3:31:12 AM   
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Oh yea, to put a video on the net you will need some type of video capture card. In just plugs into your computer and lets you hook up A/V inputs. They are cheap(I think) 40 dollars.

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spylinker 1500mW system - 9/4/2003 5:33:28 AM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by snuff
whatever.....looser!!!!!

I was talking about putting the video on the net. i dont have any way to upload any vhs onto my computer and i am not going to buy anything to only use once. but thanks

for all who care (shut-up closetflyer looser, start another thread if you want to talk about the illegal stuff), i tested the camera out and it works awesome!!! watching on a 13" color tv, clear pic and only a few fuzzy lines now&then on sharp turns. I give this a A++.
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Ahh, I must be getting on Snuff's nerves, he resorts to name calling. I think I read somewhere that this is best tool for people who know they are wrong.

Only name calling I feel need to do is call you "law breaker".

So law breaker, good to hear you are happy with illegal system.

Not happy having it pointed out? Stop admitting to it.

RCUniverse is forum for dedicated hobbyists of legal activities. If can't handle being told, then post elsewhere. I think reznikvova will offer legal systems soon, right reznikvova? Buy something legal and share good experiences then.

Sorry if you don't like to hear it so much,

David aka ClosetFlyer aka "looser"

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spylinker 1500mW system - 9/4/2003 6:52:52 AM   
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RCUniverse is forum for dedicated hobbyists of legal activities.

Your soapbox is getting a little too high now closetflyer. I wasn't going to come back to see the bullcrap anymore but just had too. And when I get here closetflyer says "RCUniverse is forum for dedicated hobbyists of legal activities" So CF, you follow every AMA rule to the letter? You have your name and address and phone number in every plane? Do you use hearing protection, gloves and safetyglasses everytime your start your plane? So, if I don't use hearing protection, does that mean I can't come here to the forum? I think it was said best in Top Gun. "Your ego is writing checks your body can't cash". I don't think you do any flying because you are too busy driving around looking for people breaking the law. If you are a cop then that is what you are paid to do. But I don't remember seeing anything about any election or anyone being appointed RCUniverse Forum Fuzz. Do you ever have any fun CF?

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spylinker 1500mW system - 9/4/2003 9:00:16 AM   
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I agree 100% illegal things are a choice, and if they aren't a danger or harm for the community than I really don't see why should people worry so much. OK we ALL know that the spylinker system is illegal.... but let's Analiese why..
The FAA or whoever chose the 1.2Ghz band for the Nav systems in the airplanes. Good now I was a pilot myself and do you really think that a MONSTER POWER of 1500mw would affect the navigational systems of an airplane?? Well let me tell you that nav beacons are of much more power than that and the most you could do is cause some slight but very slight interference, a plane instrument wouldn't even notice...
So the most you can get, working at this frequency is a blurry image in your screen because a STRONG nav beacon interferes with your camera.
That is easily provable. I am also a radio amateur, (TI2NF) lets say I am talking on my radio with another fellow far away and I am using a normal 100 Watt radio (notice not 1.5 Watt like the spylinker system) If some one just near my house (example nav beacon) is talking to the same guy in the same frequency at the same time I am but with 1000 Watt the other guy won't even hear my voice, not at all, not even a word, it would hear only the neighbors voice.
The point you can figure it out on your own Spylinker system won't affect navigation or any other system of an airplane just because the signal is too weak.
So yes working at the 1.2 Ghz frequency is illegal, but it is also harmless so just stop bugging people because they bought a system and want to have some fun with it. It is much more dangerous to talk on the cel phone while driving than using this system ( an people confess who hasn't EVER answered a call on the cell phone even if we didn't have the hands free on)

Here in RCUniverse we are all people trying to enjoy a hobby with the full respect that our hobby doesn't hurt anyone else... let's not look for more than that because if not then in the next years maybe we will have to get a license to fly model airplanes ....

I am looking forward to post some video of the 1500mw system as soon as I get mine here in Costa Rica....

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spylinker 1500mW system - 9/5/2003 2:52:50 AM   
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