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Pond Racer - 8/9/2003 6:25:59 PM   
Zpat



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Status: offline 		The full size Pond Racer showed promise in full scale racing.

Why is it that it was never carried over into model racing?
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Re: Pond Racer - 8/9/2003 7:34:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Zpat
The full size Pond Racer showed promise in full scale racing.

Why is it that it was never carried over into model racing? [/QUOTE]

My guess is that most guys (myself included) would find it too difficult to build. Then there is the fact that it doesn't easily fit into the existing racing classes. The only available racing class that I know of other than a "run what ya brung" type of race where it would "fit in" would be giant scale unlimited. It's not an F1 so you can't race it there, it's not a warbird so you can't enter it in that type of race, in Q-40, twins are not allowed. So the only realistic venue for it is giant scale racing which is cost prohibitive to most people and has but a few contests around the country each year. I could be wrong, and I often am, but I believe that the guys who are going the fastest in Giant Scale are using single engined designs.

The short answer is, it's probably not worth the effort.

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Pond Racer - 8/9/2003 8:32:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Personally, I don't think the Pond showed much promise after the first year, and even that is a stretch.

Just because airplanes do well in a 1:1 version, doesn't equate to them doing good when they are scaled down. This isn't necessarily true for QM-40, which some people argue are scale airplanes. Take Nemesis for example. Jon Sharp ruled every race he flew, but the model at 42% didn't have the right proportions to make it effective. Often times airplanes like Nemesis are built to go in a wide sustained circle. Models go straight, turn tight, go straight, turn tight. Get the picture? Different course, different design.

In other words, some models work well when they are scaled down. The aspect ratio might be good, the frontal area is good, etc etc etc

Chris

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Pond Racer - 8/9/2003 9:07:48 PM   
Zpat



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Status: offline 		So for some of you gurus out there, what can be done with this computer rendering as far as dimensions for foam plugs.


P.S. I don't want to seem pretentious.
I'd like to hear from non-gurus too!

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Pond Racer - 8/9/2003 9:13:01 PM   
Zpat



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Status: offline 		Here's another.

Please lead the way.

Is it possible to scan this and have it dimensioned?

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Pond Racer - 8/9/2003 9:48:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Do you have the files that created those rederings?

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Pond Racer - 8/9/2003 10:00:33 PM   
Zpat



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I found these pictures on this forum.

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Pond Racer - 8/9/2003 10:48:01 PM   
PylonWorld



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Status: offline 		Contact the person who drew it up ... he may be willing to share the source file(s).

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Pond Racer - 8/9/2003 10:56:28 PM   
PylonWorld



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Status: offline 		You may also want to check the [URL=http://www.rccad.com/]RC CAD web site[/URL] ... I think I saw this one on there as an example of someone's work ... You may be able to download the files ... And you can download a limited version of RC CAD.

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Pond Racer - 8/9/2003 11:48:27 PM   
Zpat



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Status: offline 		Don,
Thanks for the info.
I'll see what I can do with this CAD program.

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Pond Racer - 8/12/2003 12:11:27 AM   
PJ_TankPilot



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Status: offline 		The SWRA allows the Pond Racer because it raced at Reno.

You can see a model that raced in SWRA here
[URL=http://www.warbirdracing.com/swra/year2000/pictures/tucson/index.html]Tucson Race with Pond Racer[/URL]

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Pond Racer - 8/13/2003 4:48:23 PM   
Zpat



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Status: offline 		Can anyone from the Tucson area tell me anything about the Pond Racer that PJ-TankPilot posted.

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Pond Racer - 8/14/2003 12:25:05 AM   
PJ_TankPilot



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Status: offline 		>>tell me anything about the Pond Racer ...

Send a message to jetjockey

The Pond Racer in the pictures is his.

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RE: Pond Racer - 9/9/2003 6:14:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have scaled 3 views of the pond racer.. i wouldn't go from this drawing.. to hard to guestimate. I once made a 1/20 scale model of the pond racer it's a really kewl ship. It's really to bad that they didn't build another, it really was a fluke it crashed.. carbon monoxide poisoning I believe it was from one of the engines leaked into the cockpit, and it made the pilot pass out, and the ship rolled over and right in.

PA

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RE: Pond Racer - 9/9/2003 6:23:44 AM   
PylonWorld



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Status: offline 		What format do you have the 3 views in ... paper, or digital?

And what was the source?

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