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Yellow P-40 - 8/18/2003 7:23:18 AM   
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Branded, your entitled to your opion. as is everyone else.. including sales reps.
Seems to be a fair position ....?... BobH

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yellow aircraft p-40 - 8/18/2003 7:50:47 AM   
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Branded,

When you post remarks like
"Do yourself a favor and steer clear of Yellow (500 bucks for retracts? laughable!!). " and "When you start to produce similar products in the 100" w/s, or greater, then I'll give you guys a serious look. Until them no matter how recent your airplane type may be, IMO, they're dated if they're only in the 80" w/s size. "

I see that my reading comprehention is right on the mark!

Not everyone has the time, money or desire to build a Ziroli or other 100+ inch design although My hat is off to those who build these.

My hat is also off to those who want to buy a kit that is complete in high detail with quality components such as those manufactured by Yellow.

My hat is also off to those who buy, build, and fly many different size models from park flyers to ARF trainers to scratch built highly detailed scale models. This is a hobby for many different tastes.

The only people I won't take my hat off to are those who proclaim to be the all knowing criticising anything that they themself is not into.

BTW: In case you think I'm against planes with wings less than 100+ inches, my scratch built ultralight airplane has a 29 ft wingspan...lol

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yellow aircraft p-40 - 8/18/2003 10:21:58 AM   
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Branded,

I'm not--I repeat--NOT trying to change your mind about anything. That would be something akin to trying to cure a hawk of his acrophobia :-) I never offered (or even hinted) to sell you something. You said you have to repeatedly debate your opinion with sales reps in 'these' forums. Who's debating you and in what thread? You tell me and I'll go smack 'em one! "War of attrition??" Sir, what ever are you talking about? LOL

No, I only wanted to shed a little light, that's all. Obviously, you've really got a problem with my participating in this forum, but it is--as reminded you by a few--your problem. I think it's great that you're into big planes. So am I. Like I said, I've had a few Zirolis. They're fine. You say planes less than 100" in span are 'dated'. Now, I personally don't agree (or even understand what the heck you're talking about...), but it's your opinion. As such, I honor it--without agreeing with it--so please try to extend the rest of us the same courtesy.

Bob H. mentioned misinformation. He is very correct in that there is a lot of it to be had on the internet. A good case-in-point is when someone (who shall remain nameless) referred to the Yellow Aircraft P-40 as a '80-inch plane' when it is, in fact, an 86-inch plane. That's a big difference if you ask me. Also, if a person only heard your 'opinion', and not my 'opinion' as well, he might be led to think that all YAC warbirds are small in comparison to Ziroli. That's not the case. The P-40 is only 8 inches smaller in span and 4 inches shorter in length than the Ziroli. The T-6 is actually bigger than the Ziroli, at 101" and 72" length. Now, maybe that information is of no use or interest to you, but it might be to someone else.

You said you're subjective because you're not a dealer or rep. That, in my humble opinion, is a ridiculous assertion. Now, probably, you meant "objective", given the context in which you used it. If so, that's even more ridiculous. The more you write, the more biased and subjective you come off. Now, nobody is trying to debate you (especially since there's really nothing to debate here--it's all subjective), or anything else, so do relax and enjoy!

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yellow aircraft p-40 - 8/18/2003 10:59:00 AM   
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I would be interested in hearing from someone who has flown the Yellow P-40. How is the ground handling? How does if fly? Can any comparisons be made to the Yellow P-47 which is an absolutely supurb flying model. Will a G- 38 haul it around?

L. Johnston

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yellow aircraft p-40 - 8/18/2003 5:51:12 PM   
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Well, I awakened this morning hoping against hope that this thread had disappeared altogether, sigh.

Yellow, you seem to be the only rep that leaves the designated manufacturers forums to rebut, and engage in debates with users that are discussing, and soliciting info about your products. This thread wasn't directed to Yellow A/C in the manufactures forum.

I find that threads that are dominated by product reps are very much biased by their point of view, as this case here.

As for terms I used as "steer clear of Yellow A/C", etc., there's absolutely nothing wrong with these terms, and frankly, they are the same terms I'd use in ordinary conversation "nose to toes" with anyone at the field soliciting my opinion.
I say what I believe about Yellow A/C from what I've seen through the years to now. Take it for what it's worth......

The bottom line is this, when you're in these forums soliciting unbiased info concerning a product you need to do your homework and give all opinions their due weight, including mine.

Now considering how many times Yellow visited this one thread, it's pretty much turned into nothing more than a commercial ad for Yellow. Anyone that contributes negatively to this thread will surely be rebutted by the product rep, hence the "problem" with his repeated incursions into this thread.

I will now set an example for Yellow. I'll not return to this thread.

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Yellow P-40 engine - 8/18/2003 6:49:57 PM   
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johnson, The prototype Yellpw P-40 has a 3W50 for power. I spoke with Gary Dye, builder and test pilot, and he said that a 50 cc engine was about right for the plane. Stands to reason since its about the same size as the 88 inch Spit . Like the Spit you need to stay on the elevator to keep it from nosing over on landing and take off. I think the glass work is top notch from what I saw at Toledo. There was a thread here, someplace about 4 (?) guys building the kits at the same time. Perhaps you can do a search and see some of the construction. Regards BobH.

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yellow aircraft p-40 - 8/18/2003 7:49:16 PM   
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I like the Yellow P-40 it's the perfect size for me . It has lots of molded in detail...perfect for me . The price is reasonable to me especially when I figure my last large project took me 3 years to build, cost me well over a thousand dollars (more like $2000), and I built it from plans only. One year was spent cutting and gluing and two years were spent figuring out all the systems and scale details. A Yellow kit is a breath of fresh air.

Shaun, get a website with order capability. I like to buy online and so does everybody else.

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Yellow Aircraft reps - 8/18/2003 7:58:25 PM   
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I have never met Shaun Evans other than having read his posts and replies to posts over the years. It is no secret that he is a Y/A rep. Notwithstanding, I defy anyone who has spent even five minutes on RCUniverse to point to a single post, or a single sentence within a post, wherein this Y/A rep promoted his own product while dregrading another.

Yes, Shaun does offer his opinions, freedback and assistance when it comes to Yellow products, but why shouldn't he? Aside from Yellow being a fine product, ALOT of guys have Y/A products and Shaun's contirbutions to this forum have been nothing but informataive and helpful, over the years. I for one, like having a manufacturer's rep so accessible. How nice would it be to have more such participants in this forum to answer questions and address concerns and critisisms?

Branded, you are entitled to, and should continue to give, your opinions. G-d knows that I have been highly critical of some products in the past. Likewise, I hope that Shaun continues to promote and inform us all regarding Y/A warbirds, in a manner consistent with the courtious and professional way he has always done so.

No let's get back to the business at hand and LET'S TALK R/C!!

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P-40 - 8/18/2003 9:29:10 PM   
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Mark, Well said.
Lets get back to the P-40.
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yellow aircraft p-40 - 8/18/2003 10:49:42 PM   
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Hey Evan, just checked out your 109 again...all I can say is AWESOME! When will you pick up a YA P-40 for a build along?

You are my HERO!

Yak

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yellow aircraft p-40 - 8/18/2003 11:04:02 PM   
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Hey Evan, is that a Corsair sitting on it's nose in the background of your latest Me109 pictures?

Is that next on the block? (I know, I know... You haven't even finished the Me and here I am asking about what's next. )

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next up - 8/19/2003 12:28:00 AM   
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Yak, I have a ziroli P-40 that is all built up and in primer. All I have to do is paint it and do the engine and radio. Got a brand new ZDZ 80 for it also. Right now, Once the 109 is done, I plan to work on my ziroli t-bolt, then I have to decide between finishing the corsair or building my vailly fw190a. decisions, decisions. Ive been following this thread because I really like the yellow kits plus I wanted to absorb all the P-40 info I could before I start mine.
Tempest, Yes , my poor byron corsair is in a sad state. I stripped all the paint off down to bare fiberglass. I plan to modify it into an F2G super corsair. One of those long term projects. Now if only I can find a way to send the wife and kids out of town for several days.............
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yellow aircraft p-40 - 8/19/2003 4:33:05 AM   
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I agree lets get the thread back to its original content, I would appreciate everyones feedback on this aircraft and ony other warbird for a first time warbird builder, ive built probably 12 models, they were open cowl type. taildragger, biplane and low wing loading. I want a project to start on this winter. At this point I dont know the difference between yellow aircraft ( they sure make a beautiful cap 232 60 size IMO ) and ziroli. etc. I would like to get started with some manufacturer that supports their product with tips and hints when I get boggged down, not looking to have my hamd held but that type of support would really be a plus. Again imo constructive critism is a benefit to all but a pissn contest causes me to loose intrest.

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yellow aircraft p-40 - 8/19/2003 5:40:29 AM   
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