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RE: Does - 6/7/2011 7:53 PM   
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I am pretty sure the FAA can see the difference between these operations and QuiQue Somenzini flying a noon time demo.


Yes but as I recall, the lawsuit was claiming that the FAA had no jurisdiction because the law enforcement planes was not commerce.  Therefore if not interfering with navigable space it is not in FAA's juridiction. 


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RE: Does - 6/7/2011 8:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was not really responding to you so much as KE. Your point is a good one, and many have tried to maintain that the FAA does not have jurisdiction


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Needless to say, FAA disagrees. “We control the airspace, and we control who can fly what, where,” said FAA’s Les Dorr. “Our primary concern is the safety of the airways. If (the police department) starts using the unmanned vehicle then they run the risk of being told ‘no, they can’t do it.’ ”


http://www.homelandsecuritynewswire.com/florida-police-challenge-faa-over-uav-regulatory-authority

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RE: Does - 6/7/2011 11:32 PM   
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I was not really responding to you so much as KE. Your point is a good one, and many have tried to maintain that the FAA does not have jurisdiction


This was from one of the links I posted:

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Needless to say, FAA disagrees. “We control the airspace, and we control who can fly what, where,” said FAA’s Les Dorr. “Our primary concern is the safety of the airways. If (the police department) starts using the unmanned vehicle then they run the risk of being told ‘no, they can’t do it.’ ”


http://www.homelandsecuritynewswire.com/florida-police-challenge-faa-over-uav-regulatory-authority



If I remember right, the sheriff has more power than anybody in his county. I believe he can tell the fbi, cia, etc to "buzz off" quoting one poster here. But I just don't how far straight up his powers go in his county.

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RE: Does - 6/7/2011 11:38 PM   
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If I remember right, the sheriff has more power than anybody in his county. I believe he can tell the fbi, cia, etc to ''buzz off'' quoting one poster here. But I just don't how far straight up his powers go in his county.



I was not aware that the county sheriff was the single most powerful person in a given county with the power to supersede all federal, state, or local authority. Makes you wonder why they bother using licensed pilots in their helicopters and all that other silly stuff. Why not just tell the FAA to stuff it and buzz off?

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RE: Does - 6/8/2011 12:35 AM   
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I was not aware that the county sheriff was the single most powerful person in a given county with the power to supersede all federal, state, or local authority. Makes you wonder why they bother using licensed pilots in their helicopters and all that other silly stuff. Why not just tell the FAA to stuff it and buzz off?



Ya see the feds always use the highway funds an other things as blackmail over their head, so the sheriffs always cower down,Except Joe A.

By the way, I see how the greenies in kalifornia are using their wind turbine farms to kill on the average of 67 golden eagles every year. I bet they are really proud of themselves an their greenie stuff now. Scroll down a little from the top an watch one get killed while they are filming it. I hope them tree huggin greenie hippie B******s die a slow painful death an rot away where even the worms won't eat'em.

http://sadhillnews.com/2011/06/07/california-golden-eagles-chopped-up-by-californias-eco-friendly-windmills



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RE: Does - 6/8/2011 1:36 AM   
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Ya see the feds always use the highway funds an other things as blackmail over their head, so the sheriffs always cower down,Except Joe A.


Totally off topic, but it's sad that you have bought into his public relations firm's hype. I have a very good friend who spent 25 years at the sheriff's office and he has a much different view of Joe. I kow, he made the inmates wear pink underwear and fed them bologna sandwiches. But little things are coming to light that show that not everything is as the PR firm wants you to believe.

Do a little Google of Dave Hendershott and Arpaio


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I hope them tree huggin greenie hippie B******s die a slow painful death an rot away where even the worms won't eat'em.


You certainly are a bitter and unhappy man it seems.



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RE: Does - 6/8/2011 4:24 AM   
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Ya see the feds always use the highway funds an other things as blackmail over their head, so the sheriffs always cower down,Except Joe A.


Totally off topic, but it's sad that you have bought into his public relations firm's hype. I have a very good friend who spent 25 years at the sheriff's office and he has a much different view of Joe. I kow, he made the inmates wear pink underwear and fed them bologna sandwiches. But little things are coming to light that show that not everything is as the PR firm wants you to believe.

Do a little Google of Dave Hendershott and Arpaio


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I hope them tree huggin greenie hippie B******s die a slow painful death an rot away where even the worms won't eat'em.


You certainly are a bitter and unhappy man it seems.





Nope I just have no earthly use for the windmill/tree greenies. I spent a lot of years helping conservation here with our Great Bald Eagles we have around this lake. Then to see the golden eagles chewed up by windmills that the cry babies out there just had to have.

Bitter don't even begin to describe how I feel about most of the people out there.






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RE: Does - 6/8/2011 5:34 AM   
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Nope I just have no earthly use for the windmill/tree greenies. I spent a lot of years helping conservation here with our Great Bald Eagles we have around this lake. Then to see the golden eagles chewed up by windmills that the cry babies out there just had to have.

Bitter don't even begin to describe how I feel about most of the people out there.







Ronny,

Sounds like you really don't like self-righteous know-it-alls!

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RE: Does - 6/8/2011 1:11 PM   
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was not really responding to you so much as KE. Your point is a good one, and many have tried to maintain that the FAA does not have jurisdiction



As I recall there have been cases where the courts decided that states can add additional restrictions in non navigable areas.  Such as no fly areas.  But I think that is a different matter.  I was just wondering what the result  or status of the lawsuit is.


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RE: Does - 6/8/2011 2:44 PM   
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RE: Does - 6/8/2011 8:39 PM   
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Ok guys, the thread is drifting off topic here. Let's concentrate on the subject of thread and not worry about Eagles and wind farms in California.

Ken



The only relevance is the ongoing practice of not foreseeing the unintended consequences of ones actions,, Or knowing what will result and saying,, Tough Tootles, so sad,, sorry bout your luck.

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