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RE: I Saw it! TF 60 Size Corsair ARF!!!!! - 12/23/2011 11:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm confused from that last photo. Why two servos there? Also, what about the fuel tank? Where will that go? Please explain.

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RE: I Saw it! TF 60 Size Corsair ARF!!!!! - 12/24/2011 12:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		The two servos are throttle and choke. With gas you don't need as large of a fuel tank as glow so I'm putting a smaller one in (10 oz) and mounting it farther back over the CG location.

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RE: I Saw it! TF 60 Size Corsair ARF!!!!! - 12/24/2011 3:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Okay, that makes sense. I guess the choke can also serve as a means to kill the engine, so you wouldn't need a kill switch.

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RE: I Saw it! TF 60 Size Corsair ARF!!!!! - 12/24/2011 4:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Good point. Hadn't thought of that actually. I was planning on using the RCEXL opto kill switch with BEC though so I can get away with a single pack for control and ignition. I already bought it so I'll probably stick with that and just use the extra channel for it. Although your idea would keep me from having to Y harness the ailerons (using a DX8).

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RE: I Saw it! TF 60 Size Corsair ARF!!!!! - 12/30/2011 10:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		I just pushed the button on one of these, using a $50 off promo code and they gave me free shipping, too! That really helped, and was the tipping point for me. At first I thought it just cost too much, but the wooden construction was very appealing and finally won out! I will be installing either a Magnum .91 FS, Evolution 1.00, or a Super Tigre .90 (leaning towards the .91 FS). Time to see if my Corsair stuff will fit on this bird.

Question 1: Should I stick to Monocote if I go with the .91FS, or do you think it could handle fiberglass finishing and a couple drop tanks? No doubts on power with the other 2 engine choices.

Question 2: Is anyone close to actually flying this bird?!? I can't wait for a flight report.

Oh, one more thing... QUICK! Someone make an F2G conversion kit!!

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RE: I Saw it! TF 60 Size Corsair ARF!!!!! - 12/30/2011 10:14 PM   
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............Question 1: Should I stick to Monocote if I go with the .91FS, or do you think it could handle fiberglass finishing and a couple drop tanks? No doubts on power with the other 2 engine choices................

That all depends on how the fiberglassing is done. I've seen many TF Corsairs that were 'glassed and painted that ended up weighing over 12 lbs. But it KNOW that if done correctly: 'glassing and painting a model will only add a minimal amount of weight. I'm thinking a 10 lb 'glassed and painted model is within reason. I base my statement on the fact that I was able to refinish a Hangar 9 Corsair, and it ended up weighing only 8 1/2 lbs (but it is electric powered, so I went especially light on the 'glass). If so, the .91 should power it nicely. I personally have a 9 1/4 lb Top Flite Corsair (3 gear retracts, dual Vortac bomb drops) that flies nicely with a Saito .82.

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RE: I Saw it! TF 60 Size Corsair ARF!!!!! - 12/30/2011 10:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		CorsairJock, you are a great help! I was hoping you would chime in, and now my confidence in the .91 is high. The fuel economy of the four stroke engine doesn't hurt these days, either! Thanks much.

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RE: I Saw it! TF 60 Size Corsair ARF!!!!! - 1/3/2012 5:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Firepower, if you mount that magnum 91, will you mount it inverted, side or 45deg position?. I'm thinking of the magnum 91 too for the TF 60 corsair, but not sure which position to use. I would like to mount it inverted , but i'm worried about fuel flowing into the carb when engine is off. If mounting on the side or 45deg, you'll see the rocker head stick out quite a bit, no?

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RE: I Saw it! TF 60 Size Corsair ARF!!!!! - 1/10/2012 1:32 AM   
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Hi,

For those asking if the DLE-20 will fit, here's a few pictures of it on the Corsair ARF. I haven't cut the cowl yet but it looks like it won't take too much to fit up. I opted for a wrap around pitts muffler instead of the stock side exhaust obviously.


Brad,
What brand is that pitts muffler?
Thanks,
Bob

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RE: I Saw it! TF 60 Size Corsair ARF!!!!! - 1/10/2012 4:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		I will have to check and see if it will stick out. I would think that since the cowl is round, you could mount the engine pretty much any way you like. With that being said, I would like to mount my .91 mostly upright if I can keep it fully enclosed. If the valve cover has to stick out, I will stick with the recommended orientation. My H9 P-47 has a Saito 100 mostly inverted, with the carb way under the fuel tank. No real problems. If you are really worried, you can loop your fuel line so that the high point of the loop is higher than your fuel tank. I have done it with 3M wire clips attached to the firewall- very clean install. That will reduce the chance of a fuel siphon (sp?)

I have been thinking more and more about a gas engine. One thing I noticed about my H9 Corsair (2 stroke glow) is that my pylons and drop tanks/bombs get gooped up severely due to their proximity to the exhaust, and I don't exactly enjoy cleaning them all the time. Not exactly looking forward to that with the Top Flite ARF. However, gas engines present another problem: the spark plug hanging way out and huge mufflers/exhaust stacks. Yuk! I loathe that alot more than a mere valve cover sticking out, or the goop. So until I find one that will fit almost if not entirely inside the cowl, I guess I will stick with the glow.

My TF Corsair ARF will also have 3 gear retracting with at least some gear doors operational... more on this soon.

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RE: I Saw it! TF 60 Size Corsair ARF!!!!! - 1/10/2012 5:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		One other thing I would like to say: I think I will be happier with the .91 FS because it will fly more like an actual plane, i.e. need a takeoff roll instead of a rocket-like liftoff. Overpowered airplanes are not challenging for me to fly at all- it is like playing a video game of a guided missile. I enjoy the challenge of mastering the subtle nuances of R/C flying, scale, SMOOTH aerobatics, realistic touch & goes. One of the most enjoyable airplanes I've ever had was a GWS Zero with stock motor/gearbox and retracts. It had just enough power to climb about 15-20 degrees max, but I could easily do loops, stall turns, tailslides, point rolls... just had to manage the energy. I also at the time had a modded Stryker, high powered glow warbirds and a couple ducted fans that could burn up the sky whenever I liked, but that trusty Zero gave me more satisfaction after each sortie than anything else at the time. I am hoping for a similar feeling with this Corsair!

Just my opinion...

p.s. I finally did go geared brushless on the Zero, but I still kept the throttle back. heh heh

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RE: I Saw it! TF 60 Size Corsair ARF!!!!! - 1/10/2012 3:22 PM   
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Brad,
What brand is that pitts muffler?
Thanks,
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Hi Bob,

It's a JTEC compact version. I got it from Tower (http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXBFYT&P=ML). There are a few other styles for the DLE20 too you can find on JTEC's web site. ValleyView RC has one too but it was too long for the flush firewall on the Corsair so I had to return it.

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RE: I Saw it! TF 60 Size Corsair ARF!!!!! - 1/10/2012 4:10 PM   
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RE: I Saw it! TF 60 Size Corsair ARF!!!!! - 1/14/2012 9:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Bought a set of Sierra retracts for this plane. These are far better than Robart 615's.
Daryll has modified the strut length so that they fit this kit.

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RE: I Saw it! TF 60 Size Corsair ARF!!!!! - 1/15/2012 12:04 AM   
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RE: I Saw it! TF 60 Size Corsair ARF!!!!! - 1/20/2012 4:34 PM   
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Do you have any more pics of the engine with the cowl??
I am about to order the DLE 20 and the Mount braket!!!

What braket are you using??? if posible tell me the brand and model of the braket
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RE: I Saw it! TF 60 Size Corsair ARF!!!!! - 1/20/2012 4:36 PM   
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Hi,

For those asking if the DLE-20 will fit, here's a few pictures of it on the Corsair ARF. I haven't cut the cowl yet but it looks like it won't take too much to fit up. I opted for a wrap around pitts muffler instead of the stock side exhaust obviously.



Brad-C

Do you have any more pics of the engine with the cowl??
I am about to order the DLE 20 and the Mount braket!!!

What braket are you using??? if posible tell me the brand and model of the braket
THanks


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RE: I Saw it! TF 60 Size Corsair ARF!!!!! - 1/20/2012 5:44 PM   
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Do you have any more pics of the engine with the cowl??
I am about to order the DLE 20 and the Mount braket!!!

What braket are you using??? if posible tell me the brand and model of the braket
THanks

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Hi,

No, not yet. Sorry. I haven't been able to work on it much the past few weeks. I got the tail section done but haven't started on the cowl yet. I'll post pictures when I do though. I might have time this weekend.

As for the mount, I'm not sure what it is because I had it laying around. I think it was one that came with the Hangar 9 60 size Spitfire ARF but not 100% sure. DLE suggests using the Dubro vib. dampening mount but I ran the engine through a few tanks on a test stand and it was fairly smooth. So, I cheaped out and used what I had already. I had a DLE-30 on another plane before and it was fine without dampening.

Dubro mount: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXD633

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RE: I Saw it! TF 60 Size Corsair ARF!!!!! - 1/20/2012 6:31 PM   
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RE: I Saw it! TF 60 Size Corsair ARF!!!!! - 1/22/2012 1:43 AM   
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Bought a set of Sierra retracts for this plane. These are far better than Robart 615's.
Daryll has modified the strut length so that they fit this kit.



Where can someone find these? I was looking for another option besides the robarts.

I was hoping for electric but can't seem to find any

My first corsair...wooohoooooo

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RE: I Saw it! TF 60 Size Corsair ARF!!!!! - 1/22/2012 1:56 AM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weRfO2a75zc&feature=player_embedded....check it out


This video made my day, mine is 2/3 done and I'm glad I got the new OS 95 fs man it sounds good


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RE: I Saw it! TF 60 Size Corsair ARF!!!!! - 1/22/2012 3:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Got the cowl done with the DLE-20 so here's a few pictures.

On the alternate retract question - I'm going to give the E-Flite rotating retracts a try. They are for .46 size but the specs say up to 9.5lb plane. Have only dry fit them so far but It seems like they will be ok. I'm also going to use Robostruts for some suspension and better looks. We'll see..



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RE: I Saw it! TF 60 Size Corsair ARF!!!!! - 1/22/2012 4:01 PM   
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What prop and size did you use with the os 95V

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RE: I Saw it! TF 60 Size Corsair ARF!!!!! - 1/22/2012 4:58 PM   
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Looks very nice! What is your opinion of the overall parts fit?

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RE: I Saw it! TF 60 Size Corsair ARF!!!!! - 1/22/2012 5:52 PM   
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Looks very nice! What is your opinion of the overall parts fit?


Pretty good overall. The hole pattern of the engine mount I used takes some tricky clearing out of the wood framing behind the firewall to get the blind nuts to seat but other than that it's fine. There is just enough room behind the carb for air intake and choke operation and plenty of room for the ignition in front of the firewall. I haven't done it yet but the spark plug wire needs some clips to secure it to the firewall and away from the muffler as much as possible, but I think it will be ok. The rear pitts muffler made it a lot easier I think and it looks way better than the stock one would. I'm sure the sound will be better too but I've only run it with the stock one so far.

On the ARF in general - The cowl was a bit tough to get aligned right because of the way it's flared out at the ends (little difficult to get tape to seat right and hold it in place without deforming it). Nothing some patience and trial and error can't solve though. The dummy engine with the metal push rods is a nice touch. Little tedious putting them all in but they look great. I normally don't bother with dummy engines but this one was worth it. The tail section was easy as can be.

Now it's on to the wing. I started the fuse first because the first wing I got was bad so I had to send it back. Tower took care of it though - good customer support.

Brad.

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