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Maynard Hill - Contratulations - 8/14/2003 6:54:49 PM   
Ben Lanterman



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Status: offline 		I want to congratulate Maynard Hill on his trans-Atlantic crossing. I can't imagine an 11 pound model flying for 30+ hours. It was a typical vintage Maynard Hill model, very efficient. Not bad for a guy who is 77 years old and holds more records than you can count.

I spend an hour yesterday morning trying to get a motor to run more than 1 minute as I chased a speck of dirt around a fuel system - sigh.

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Maynard Hill - Contratulations - 8/14/2003 7:24:05 PM   
hroachen



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Status: offline 		Amazing achievement..

here's a link to an article I spotted today:

http://www.msnbc.com/news/951680.asp?0bl=-0

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Maynard Hill - Contratulations - 8/14/2003 11:31:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am so happy for Maynard! He's been trying to accomplish this for quite a while now. I'm sure there will be a fascinating article in
Model Aviation about this. I have always thoroughly enjoyed his articles describing the records he has set through the years. I hope I'm somewhere near as active as he is when I'm 77!

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Maynard Hill - Contratulations - 8/20/2003 5:53:49 AM   
Hal deBolt


 

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Status: offline 		Hi ya'll,
I have to congrateulate old friend Maynard for his fantastic flight,
good show for sure!
Even more amazing is the aircraft he used I would believe.
Here are some guesstamations to consider:

Wing span>6 ft Wing area>6 sq. ft. Wing loading>30 oz/sq.ft.
Weight> fuel and engine>7 lbs entire remainder>4 lbs
Engine> OS 61 4s
Engine rpm> 4000
Fuel> 125 oz Coleman fuel ( gas and naptha?)
Fuel consumption> .05 oz per minute
Thrust required> 190 oz

Should say> you don't take those specs off the shelf! Each one
represents many hours of research, experimenting and evaluation. Such requires a dedicated modeler to accomplish plus
we should never forget, a very understanding mate!

Someone asked what next? Around the World, non stop yet?
Wowee!!!

Maynard, you did well, take a rest now and enjoy, OK?


Hal [email]hdebolt1@juno.com[/email]

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Maynard Hill - Contratulations - 8/20/2003 8:20:15 AM   
BMatthews



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Status: offline 		For those that may be in the dark about this you can read more about it [URL=http://tam.plannet21.com/]HERE[/URL] .

There's a [URL=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/tm.asp?m=1045945]THREAD A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN[/URL] and also in a couple of other forums about this achievement.

I was one that only learned about it thanks to Vic here at good ol' RCU while it was in the last few hours of the flight. It was all the more of a shock to realize that someone was doing this. But the fact that it was Maynard Hill didn't surprise me a bit. If anyone had a hand in something like this it was sure to be him. Certainly this should not detract from the efforts of the others. I'm sure there was lots of brain erosion to go around.

I'm surprised it didn't come up in earlier! Or perhaps it did but didn't make the rounds. There's just way too many forums to follow around here.

Anyway I once again doff my Titford to the whole TAM crew. Fine job that really points out just how much we can learn from model aviation..

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Maynard Hill - Contratulations - 8/20/2003 9:05:31 AM   
Ben Lanterman



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Status: offline 		I to have enjoyed reading about his record trials through the years. The trans-ocean airplane, as Hal mentioned, is such a balance of things learned through hours of testing.

I have an impression of an engine running at a fast idle that is my usual idle speed at the field to keep the grass from stopping the prop blades. Awesome is the only word for it. I would think it would make a good ad for OS.

To have broken the records in speed and endurance that he has indicates a great range of knowledge. I hope it is all recorded and put on the internet!


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Maynard Hill - 8/20/2003 12:05:14 PM   
Mike James



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What a great thing for Maynard Hill, and as his knowledge filters down, for all of us.

Congratulations on winning, and congratulations for not quitting earlier, when many said, "It's impossible".


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Trans-atlantic flight? - 8/21/2003 9:14:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Is this the same Maynard Hill who allegedly 'flew' a model across Texas to set a world record, - just that the model spent most of the journey in the back of his pick-up truck?

Somehow the Atlantic crossing doesn't tally either if you look at the different parameters.

So, - just a hoax, but they got the date wrong?
April fool day is April 1st, not some time in August

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Maynard Hill - Contratulations - 8/21/2003 10:27:22 PM   
Ben Lanterman



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Status: offline 		Maynard Hill has set records in altitude, endurance, closed course speed, and a host of others. Each one has had official witnesses according to the FAI codes governing world record attempts.

He is the real deal.

Do a look up and you might find some interesting information. It would be better than showing your lack of information in such great detail. In the time it took you to write your interesting message I found the following...........

http://www.dc-rc.org/star.htm a quoted portion......

"The aeromodels used for this experiment will weigh about 11 pounds (5 kilograms) including fuel, and will have a wingspan of about 6.5 feet. The engine will be a four-stroke type of 10 cc. displaced volume. The effort will be carried out under the leadership of Maynard Hill, who has been responsible for the model design and engine development. During the past 3.5 decades, he has established 23 different world records under F.A.I. rules. His models currently hold records for altitude (26,990 ft), duration (33.67 hrs), closed course distance (1301 Km), and speed in a closed circuit (167 mph). The aerodynamic and propulsion aspects of the transatlantic model (TAM) are therefore based on much practical experience."


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Re: Trans-atlantic flight? - 8/22/2003 6:26:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by shonny
Is this the same Maynard Hill who allegedly 'flew' a model across Texas to set a world record, - just that the model spent most of the journey in the back of his pick-up truck?

Somehow the Atlantic crossing doesn't tally either if you look at the different parameters.

So, - just a hoax, but they got the date wrong?
April fool day is April 1st, not some time in August [/QUOTE]

I suggest you put forth some evidence of these accusations,

- or continue to be regarded as a stupid troll.

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Maynard Hill - Contratulations - 8/22/2003 4:34:23 PM   
shonny


 

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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ben Lanterman
Maynard Hill has set records in altitude, endurance, closed course speed, and a host of others. Each one has had official witnesses according to the FAI codes governing world record attempts.

He is the real deal.

Do a look up and you might find some interesting information. It would be better than showing your lack of information in such great detail. In the time it took you to write your interesting message I found the following...........

http://www.dc-rc.org/star.htm a quoted portion......

"The aeromodels used for this experiment will weigh about 11 pounds (5 kilograms) including fuel, and will have a wingspan of about 6.5 feet. The engine will be a four-stroke type of 10 cc. displaced volume. The effort will be carried out under the leadership of Maynard Hill, who has been responsible for the model design and engine development. During the past 3.5 decades, he has established 23 different world records under F.A.I. rules. His models currently hold records for altitude (26,990 ft), duration (33.67 hrs), closed course distance (1301 Km), and speed in a closed circuit (167 mph). The aerodynamic and propulsion aspects of the transatlantic model (TAM) are therefore based on much practical experience." [/QUOTE]

I have some problems believing that you can fit about one gallon (the U.S. variety) of fuel in an 11 lbs plane (if the weight of fuel is in addition to the 11 lbs, it is still not plausible).
That is a container about 4 by 4 by 15 inches.
Where is the space for it?
Then there are batteries that must last more than 40 hours.
Then you have the satelite navigation equipment.
The sum of this spells BULL****!

But if someone can PROVE anything to the contrary, I'd be very interested.

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Re: Re: Trans-atlantic flight? - 8/22/2003 4:40:34 PM   
shonny


 

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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Johng
I suggest you put forth some evidence of these accusations,

- or continue to be regarded as a stupid troll. [/QUOTE]

Usually the burden of proof is on the one who makes a claim to have done something. :
A troll, sure, but the stupidity is all yours.

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Maynard Hill - Contratulations - 8/22/2003 5:01:52 PM   
Forgues Research



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Check this out
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Maynard Hill - Contratulations - 8/22/2003 5:30:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		The last post is true, Maynard isn't the first to have a "model plane" cross the Atlantic. But he is the first to do it under the eye of the FAI. To qualify as a record, the plane could weigh no more than 11 pounds (loaded) and the engine could displace no more than 10cc (0.61ci). The plane, Spirit of Butts Farm weighed 5.5 lbs. empty and the engine used Coleman lantern fuel. The engine drove an alternator to power the electronics during the flight.

Maynard has been setting records for over 35 years and has 23 to his credit. He has a vast knowledge of engines, aerodynamics etc. I really take exception to the post doubting that Maynard and his team didn't make the crossing. After all, would AMA President Dave Brown openly lie about landing the model in Ireland?

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Maynard Hill - Contratulations - 8/22/2003 8:26:00 PM   
shonny


 

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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by RJB
After all, would AMA President Dave Brown openly lie about landing the model in Ireland? [/QUOTE]

No, but he could have been deceived. Which isn't all that hard to do if you think about it.

I'm chasing an article about the Texas crossing from years back, but without luck so far.
My interest in this is merely academic, but a long time sceptic doesn't necessarily take things at face value.

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