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RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 9/22/2012 9:21 PM   
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I got the cowl primed this afternoon and started to wet sand it.

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RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 9/22/2012 10:41 PM   
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yates55,

Very nice for your second post in 4 1/2 years.

If you or any reader reads post #429 you will realize that the diversion was initiated by JurassicJet and NOT by me Zor.

I only responded to JurassicJet and his comment concerning my post.

In fact my previous posting involving the fellow with a big gap at his stabilizer were appreciated by him.
Just go back a bit and read.

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I do not hold any rancor; I am intelligent enough for that.

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RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 9/22/2012 10:55 PM   
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First wet sanding before applying the panel lines?


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RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 9/22/2012 11:09 PM   
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Usually yes...
You apply the chart tape right before you are ready to rivet and paint.
Very little body work you can do when all the details are on the plane.

Where is a good place in the USA to get the 3/4 oz glass in a roll to cover the whole plane, and where is a good place to get masks for the insignia and numbers to be painted on?

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RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 9/22/2012 11:18 PM   
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Where is a good place in the USA to get the 3/4 oz glass in a roll to cover the whole plane, and

I used this place:

http://www.thayercraft.com

Shipped rolled, good prices.

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where is a good place to get masks for the insignia and numbers to be painted on?


http://www.callie-graphics.com

Callie can make masks to your specs.




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RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 9/22/2012 11:22 PM   
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EJ, Yes I have to fill the scratches from sanding the bondo. I was using 80-100 grit to get the job done and that left some pretty course scatches to be filled. As Fabio said once I get the bodywork done I will do the panel lines and such.

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RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 9/22/2012 11:35 PM   
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Got it now! Makes sense. I went back several pages and re-read the fuselage panel line posts.


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RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 9/22/2012 11:49 PM   
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EJ
there are so many kind and sizes.
Is this the kind I need?
Could you recommend the correct size and length on the chart?

http://www.thayercraft.com/106.htm

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RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 9/23/2012 1:27 AM   
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I know nothing of Zor's history but in this particular instance the thread diversion was not initiated by him but rather by Mr. JurassicJet. Not being an aviator in the full scale sense I don't know who is right or wrong concerning "over and out" and, to be honest, I don't care. To quote "JJ", "just sayin'". Over and out.

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RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 9/23/2012 1:55 AM   
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Fabio,
 
I ordered 20 yards (44"-wide) of the .73-oz. Silane finish (for any resin) plain weave cloth. The fourth item down from the top on the chart. So far, I've used it to cover a 69" pattern plane with it using Z-Poxy Finishing Resin. The cloth wetted-out very well.
 
I just checked Tower and the Hobbico brand 3/4-ounce cloth is $5.49 for a 36" X 36" (1- sq. yd.) piece. Run the numbers on the cloth from Thayer, and it comes to $1.90 per square yard - with free (U.S.) shipping. Of course now I have to build a LOT of models in order to use-up that much cloth. Or, I could co-op it with other club builders...
 
I also bought some 2.4-oz. for wing center section reinforcement.



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RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 9/23/2012 2:06 AM   
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Oops! Double post!




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RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 9/23/2012 2:28 AM   
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Cowl looks great, not sure I can do as good as you did, may just order the fiber glass one


pics coming soon



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RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 9/23/2012 6:28 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Chad Veich

I know nothing of Zor's history but in this particular instance the thread diversion was not initiated by him but rather by Mr. JurassicJet. Not being an aviator in the full scale sense I don't know who is right or wrong concerning "over and out" and, to be honest, I don't care. To quote "JJ", "just sayin'". Over and out.


Thanks Chad Veich for having the decency of pointing this out.
I got a blame that I did not deserve at all.

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RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 9/23/2012 12:36 PM   
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Thanks Yates, I enjoyed the challenge of putting those 5 pieces of ABS plastic together. It really wasn't all that bad to tell you the truth. I think it looks more menacing than it actually is. Give it a shot, I'm sure you can do just as good as I did.

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RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 9/23/2012 4:21 PM   
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She's going on a field trip to the club for the first time today. I need to get some flying in, it can't be all sanding, filling, and priming.

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RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 9/26/2012 10:52 PM   
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More progress.....
Before I start gluing the balsa stringers to the bottom of the fuse, is there something I should be doing in your guys opinion before I block access to the inside of the fuse?
Before I go forward I would like to know if you had any retreats after you sheeted the plane and could not get back in there.
Did I make any sense?

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RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 9/26/2012 11:05 PM   
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I didn't need to get back in there Fabio. I ran the airlines to the tail-wheel retract, put the air-tank in, and I also hooked the line up to the tank and wrapped safety wire around it. I'm sure you already have the push rod tubes in by this point as well.

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RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 9/27/2012 1:46 AM   
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Gary
Thanks for the reply
I am ready to sheet the bottom of the fuse.
Before I do that however I need to tackle the inter cooler doors.
The instruction are a bit sketchy.
I am assuming that the flat white piece of plastic in the box is the one I need to use to fabricate the doors.
I am scratching my had to how I can cut the hole accurately on the fuse.
Should I cut out the template from the plan and try to cut it with it?
How did you go about it?

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RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 9/27/2012 2:34 PM   
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Hey Fabio,

Yeah, I understand your pain. The plastic that they provide in the kit in my opinion doesn't give enough margin for error. Everything MUST be cut exactly right the first time or you won't have enough to complete both doors. True to form, I messed up the first cut and I went to Home Depot and bought a handicapped parking sign that was approximately the same thickness as in the kit.
Just follow the plans (side view & top view) and measure everything out. The instruction manual gives you the measurements but the diagram they show is not to scale, so take note of that.
And yes, after I had the bottom sheeted I drew out the opening to be cut and made sure it was the same on both sides.
Hope this helps.

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RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 9/27/2012 2:59 PM   
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BTW, I got all my servos out last night (11 to be exact) and started mounting the rubber shock mounts and little brass thing-a-ma-jigs at the breakfast table. My wife was like "where did you get all those, how much are those things each?" I even got sticker shock when I told her.
I'm running Airtronics 94162Z's on all the flight controls, a Airtronics 94851 digital on the throttle, a Hitec HS645KB on the tailwheel, a Hitec HS85MG on the air valve, and a Hitec 5485 on the choke.
Good thing I bought all these little-by-little over the last year.

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RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 9/27/2012 8:17 PM   
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Rule #1 when talking to the spouse about the hobby.
You ALWAYS had that stuff and if you have to buy it you can get it easily at the Dollar store.

Thanks for the tip about the cooler doors.
I will proceed with caution until I mess up.....he he.

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RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 9/28/2012 7:19 PM   
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My wife is like a police detective, she will get the facts out of every interrogation!

While I'm saving my pennies for the paint, I'm doing little odds and ends that will speed things up later. I have the cowl in position and ready to mount. I was never a big fan of how they designed the cowl mounts to where they can be seen when it is in the position the plans intend. I do think the way they have it set up will keep good airflow exiting the rear of the cowl, it's just not ideally the best looking as far as scale goes. Oh well, life goes on...

BTW, that's an old prop I had laying around, it's not the one I intend to use.

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RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 9/28/2012 9:48 PM   
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Gary aren't you ready for rivets ?
For prop I really like the Zoar WWII line. I use it in my p-51 and Trojan and it's very scale like and reasonable at the same time.

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RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 9/28/2012 10:08 PM   
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Yes, I'm ready for rivets Fabio. I just want the paint ordered before I start applying them. I don't want to have them on there unsealed with paint and still flipping the fuse around on the stand. I don't want to take a chance messing up the work.

I finished mounting the cowl and cut the openings for the exhaust. The HobbyKing muffler fit on there pretty good without too much modification. It's close to the firewall though!

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RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 9/28/2012 11:35 PM   
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You can put some aluminum tape on the firewall to deflect some of the heat.

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