RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build    Gallery
View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as Guest



Users viewing this topic: none
    Search This Thread  
 
Printable Version

All Forums >> RC Airplanes >> Kit Building >> RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build
Page: <<   < prev  28 29 [30] 31 32 33 34 35 36 37   next >   >>  

Tower Hobbies Get Coupon Codes Brands  
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 11/11/2012 8:19 PM   
Mustangman40


 

Posts: 1342
Score: 181
Joined: 12/30/2010
Last Login: 6/19/2013
From: Mt Morris, IL, USA
Status: offline 		I did a few things different from the plans on my flaps.. I laminated the control horn with thin carbon fiber on both sides, then drilled it and installed a piece of Ni-rod and sanded it flush.. The CF really made this nice and stiff...
After reading about what a PITA the flaps are, I decided to add blocks next to the control horn.. It adds strength to the horn, but in the event it failed or becomes to much of a pain setting them up, I have the blocking to use a regular control horn and run the linkage outside the wing like the ailerons are.. It didn't take much extra work and now I have options... I also didn't like that the LE was just glued to the 3/32 sheeting and the few ribs, so I added some 1/4" stock for more gluing surface...

Attachments
Click to see fullsize image.
Click for fullsize 		Click to see fullsize image.
Click for fullsize 		Click to see fullsize image.
Click for fullsize


_____________________________

Ultra Sport Brotherhood #92

Hide Signatures

(in reply to Mustangman40)
       Post #: 726

RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 11/11/2012 11:12 PM   
redbiscuits



Posts: 1233
Score: 150
Joined: 3/22/2009
Last Login: 6/19/2013
From: CEDAR CREEK, TX, USA
Status: offline 		Good work Jimbo!

When I got back from the LHS, I made me up my exhausts. Go ahead, deduct points for not adding the waste gates, I don't care.

I'll add them permanently after paint.

Interesting fact about Tar-Heel Hal, I asked at the museum why there was no waste gates, they told me they did away with the whole supercharger system to lighten it up. They also said they wouldn't even need it since it fly's most of the time under 10,000 feet.

Things that make you go hmmm...

Attachments
Click to see fullsize image.
Click for fullsize 		Click to see fullsize image.
Click for fullsize 		Click to see fullsize image.
Click for fullsize


_____________________________

Gary-Waco Brother#171 If the build gets tough, always refrain from throwing things! ARCA, Austin Tx. www.austinrc.org

Hide Signatures

(in reply to Mustangman40)
       Post #: 727

RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 11/12/2012 12:26 AM   
Doomking



Posts: 614
Score: 125
Joined: 11/17/2002
Last Login: 6/19/2013
From: North Ridgeville, OH, USA
Status: offline 		Gary your rivets are just perfect.
It's easy to get caught up in the scale fever, but for me I always draw a line a make a good balance between good scale effort and every day flier finish.

Jimbo you are cheating ....... I wish you would have posted your flap pictures earlier so I could have copied that good idea as well.....
You were supposed to follow the instruction to the "T" and set up the flap horn the same lousy way we all did.
By the way, if I am not mistaken, you need to flip that horn before you glue it in. As it shows in your picture I think is upside down.

Anyway, success at the end. I soaked the flaps yesterday evening in warm water and put some weight on it.......and presto! The flap now lay perfectly flat and in line with the other surfaces.
That was an easy fix.....
Aileron are also hinged and servo hardwood block installed.
I hope that I am right about the horn because mine are drying with epoxy as we speak.

Servo hatches next. The 1/16 ply looks very thin even compared to my P-51. Do you guys feel comfortable trusting your bird to such thin ply or should it be OK?
Warning.....Warning....paranoia alert!!
By the way...did I pass Jimbo in the build? Gary you are the official judge from now on on...



Attachments
Click to see fullsize image.
Click for fullsize 		Click to see fullsize image.
Click for fullsize 		Click to see fullsize image.
Click for fullsize


Hide Signatures

(in reply to redbiscuits)
       Post #: 728

RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 11/12/2012 12:59 AM   
Mustangman40


 

Posts: 1342
Score: 181
Joined: 12/30/2010
Last Login: 6/19/2013
From: Mt Morris, IL, USA
Status: offline 		Yes it is in wrong, just slipped it in for the picture...   You sure did pass me up, looks very good too....

Question..
My flaps have some warp in them as well.. I have to head back out of town for work and didn't glue my LE on yet.. I was thinking of spraying and put some bags on them before I glue on the LE, anyone see a problem doing it like that?

I also think the thin ply is week on the servo doors, I am changing mine for sure.. I was kind of shocked to see that's what they called for in the kit.. Oh well, not a big deal to change them...

_____________________________

Ultra Sport Brotherhood #92

Hide Signatures

(in reply to Doomking)
       Post #: 729

RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 11/12/2012 1:06 AM   
Mustangman40


 

Posts: 1342
Score: 181
Joined: 12/30/2010
Last Login: 6/19/2013
From: Mt Morris, IL, USA
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: redbiscuits

Good work Jimbo!

When I got back from the LHS, I made me up my exhausts. Go ahead, deduct points for not adding the waste gates, I don't care.

I'll add them permanently after paint.

Interesting fact about Tar-Heel Hal, I asked at the museum why there was no waste gates, they told me they did away with the whole supercharger system to lighten it up. They also said they wouldn't even need it since it fly's most of the time under 10,000 feet.

Things that make you go hmmm...



Gary,
looks good........  I decided to do a scale working exhaust on mine, but that might change when I get to it.. 

I tossed all the plastic parts for mine way back when, I need to place my order to FS this week.. I am going to order all the part's they make for the kit, I will post how they are...

Jimbo

_____________________________

Ultra Sport Brotherhood #92

Hide Signatures

(in reply to redbiscuits)
       Post #: 730

RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 11/12/2012 1:20 AM   
Zor



Posts: 2811
Score: 183
Joined: 2/23/2009
Last Login: 6/20/2013
From: Ontario, ON, CANADA
Status: offline 		Just a thought . . .

If the middle or in between hinge (hinges) do not perfectly lineup in a straight line it could force a warp or a twist.

Zor


Hide Signatures

(in reply to Mustangman40)
       Post #: 731

RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 11/12/2012 2:30 AM   
Doomking



Posts: 614
Score: 125
Joined: 11/17/2002
Last Login: 6/19/2013
From: North Ridgeville, OH, USA
Status: offline 		Yes I would definitely straight them out before you glue the TE.
Just soak them good and put some good weight on it.
They will dry straight.

Hide Signatures

(in reply to Mustangman40)
       Post #: 732

RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 11/12/2012 3:33 AM   
RWHorton


 

Posts: 494
Score: 120
Joined: 1/14/2005
Last Login: 6/13/2013
From: Billings, MT, USA
Status: offline 		If I can chim in here on the flaps, I went with a Hightech Digital servos on the whole plane, but what is really nice is on the flaps I can program them so they move at the same speed, and the same distance, I also programed them to move at the slowest speed they will go also. It makes them look as real as possible.

Ron

Hide Signatures

(in reply to Mustangman40)
       Post #: 733

RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 11/13/2012 4:28 PM   
redbiscuits



Posts: 1233
Score: 150
Joined: 3/22/2009
Last Login: 6/19/2013
From: CEDAR CREEK, TX, USA
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Doomking

Servo hatches next. The 1/16 ply looks very thin even compared to my P-51. Do you guys feel comfortable trusting your bird to such thin ply or should it be OK?
Warning.....Warning....paranoia alert!!
By the way...did I pass Jimbo in the build? Gary you are the official judge from now on on...


Damn! Why did you have to plant that in my head?
Actually, once I had them made, and my servos installed on the plate, and 6 screws mounting each of them to the wing, I think there is little chance of them going anywhere or flexing. I built them per the instructions and all seems fine. Remember, these are not 3D type airplanes with extreme throws and lots of force against the surfaces.

If we build them like a tank it all adds up in the end, and then it will fly like a tank. JMO


_____________________________

Gary-Waco Brother#171 If the build gets tough, always refrain from throwing things! ARCA, Austin Tx. www.austinrc.org

Hide Signatures

(in reply to Doomking)
       Post #: 734

RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 11/13/2012 4:58 PM   
Edwin


 

Posts: 5961
Score: 156
Joined: 2/8/2002
Last Login: 6/20/2013
From: Leander, TX, USA
Status: offline 		Gary,
You think you're about half finished?
Edwin

Hide Signatures

(in reply to redbiscuits)
       Post #: 735

RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 11/13/2012 5:07 PM   
redbiscuits



Posts: 1233
Score: 150
Joined: 3/22/2009
Last Login: 6/19/2013
From: CEDAR CREEK, TX, USA
Status: offline 		I'd say I'm more like 90% finished. Wait until the end of next week and we should see some color on her. I'm on vacation all next week, hope I get some good painting weather.

_____________________________

Gary-Waco Brother#171 If the build gets tough, always refrain from throwing things! ARCA, Austin Tx. www.austinrc.org

Hide Signatures

(in reply to Edwin)
       Post #: 736

RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 11/13/2012 5:22 PM   
redbiscuits



Posts: 1233
Score: 150
Joined: 3/22/2009
Last Login: 6/19/2013
From: CEDAR CREEK, TX, USA
Status: offline 		Edwin, BTW, do you know a good place around here to get bigger chunks of lead or something similar? I'm going to have to add weight in the front, I already know that. I'm also going to need a way to balance it. The little puny C/G machine I have isn't going to cut it. I might have to go back and do it the way I did my Waco.

Attachments
Click to see fullsize image.
Click for fullsize 		Click to see fullsize image.
Click for fullsize


_____________________________

Gary-Waco Brother#171 If the build gets tough, always refrain from throwing things! ARCA, Austin Tx. www.austinrc.org

Hide Signatures

(in reply to redbiscuits)
       Post #: 737

RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 11/13/2012 5:29 PM   
Edwin


 

Posts: 5961
Score: 156
Joined: 2/8/2002
Last Login: 6/20/2013
From: Leander, TX, USA
Status: offline 		Someone earlier said Dive shops. That will get you big heavy chunks. Another place would be hardware stores that have the lead to go around roof vents. I use 1/4" steel plate from Westbrook Metals, in the area of Lamar and Airport intersection. A piece big enough to bolt to the firewall would weigh about 8lbs. Just size accordingly. I find it to be a pretty clean setup. I have a metal cutting band saw if you want to use it.
Edwin

Hide Signatures

(in reply to redbiscuits)
       Post #: 738

RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 11/13/2012 5:31 PM   
Edwin


 

Posts: 5961
Score: 156
Joined: 2/8/2002
Last Login: 6/20/2013
From: Leander, TX, USA
Status: offline 		Gary,
Before I forget, the stearman problem was both clunks fell off inside the tank. Its good now. Dont forget the wire ties on your fuel lines.
Edwin

Hide Signatures

(in reply to Edwin)
       Post #: 739

RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 11/13/2012 5:34 PM   
redbiscuits



Posts: 1233
Score: 150
Joined: 3/22/2009
Last Login: 6/19/2013
From: CEDAR CREEK, TX, USA
Status: offline 		Thanks Edwin, I'll check on those places.

I used safety wire.................I think?

That's the trouble with these long builds, I need to develop a checklist. LOL

_____________________________

Gary-Waco Brother#171 If the build gets tough, always refrain from throwing things! ARCA, Austin Tx. www.austinrc.org

Hide Signatures

(in reply to Edwin)
       Post #: 740

RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 11/13/2012 5:42 PM   
Edwin


 

Posts: 5961
Score: 156
Joined: 2/8/2002
Last Login: 6/20/2013
From: Leander, TX, USA
Status: offline 		Let me know when the maiden is. I got a real nice HD video camera last year and havent really used it that much.
Edwin

Hide Signatures

(in reply to redbiscuits)
       Post #: 741

RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 11/13/2012 5:49 PM   
redbiscuits



Posts: 1233
Score: 150
Joined: 3/22/2009
Last Login: 6/19/2013
From: CEDAR CREEK, TX, USA
Status: offline 		Thanks! I'll take you up on that.

I'm going to choose that day wisely. Blue sky,winds out of the south straight down the runway at about 8-10mph. Perfect!

_____________________________

Gary-Waco Brother#171 If the build gets tough, always refrain from throwing things! ARCA, Austin Tx. www.austinrc.org

Hide Signatures

(in reply to Edwin)
       Post #: 742

RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 11/13/2012 7:38 PM   
redbiscuits



Posts: 1233
Score: 150
Joined: 3/22/2009
Last Login: 6/19/2013
From: CEDAR CREEK, TX, USA
Status: offline 		If anyone is interested in some of the exhaust stacks that I made, I have enough material left over to whip out another dozen or so.
It was kind of fun and I wouldn't mind making a few more for those that want em.

_____________________________

Gary-Waco Brother#171 If the build gets tough, always refrain from throwing things! ARCA, Austin Tx. www.austinrc.org

Hide Signatures

(in reply to redbiscuits)
       Post #: 743

RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 11/13/2012 10:14 PM   
Doomking



Posts: 614
Score: 125
Joined: 11/17/2002
Last Login: 6/19/2013
From: North Ridgeville, OH, USA
Status: offline 		What I usually use to make ballast is plumber solder.
Once I put the plane on the Vanessa rig I add piece by piece crumble solder wire.
You can be very accurate since you can cut from the spool just as little or as much as you need.
When I have the correct amount I melt it all together in the shape that I need it to be, to be glued to which ever part of the fuse.
To make a quick mold for melting the solder I fold aluminum foil several times to make a little container to melt the solder in and I can shape it in any size or shape I want.

Did I confuse you enough?

By the way I will not redesign the servo hatches. Who am I to question TF design team?
I will however lay a thicker layer of glass before I lay the final layer over tha hatches.

Fabio

Hide Signatures

(in reply to redbiscuits)
       Post #: 744

RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 11/13/2012 10:53 PM   
redbiscuits



Posts: 1233
Score: 150
Joined: 3/22/2009
Last Login: 6/19/2013
From: CEDAR CREEK, TX, USA
Status: offline 		That makes perfect sense, I'll need to see how much that is when I go to HD or Lowes.

_____________________________

Gary-Waco Brother#171 If the build gets tough, always refrain from throwing things! ARCA, Austin Tx. www.austinrc.org

Hide Signatures

(in reply to Doomking)
       Post #: 745

RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 11/13/2012 11:03 PM   
Zor



Posts: 2811
Score: 183
Joined: 2/23/2009
Last Login: 6/20/2013
From: Ontario, ON, CANADA
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Doomking

What I usually use to make ballast is plumber solder.
Once I put the plane on the Vanessa rig I add piece by piece crumble solder wire.
You can be very accurate since you can cut from the spool just as little or as much as you need.
When I have the correct amount I melt it all together in the shape that I need it to be, to be glued to which ever part of the fuse.
To make a quick mold for melting the solder I fold aluminum foil several times to make a little container to melt the solder in and I can shape it in any size or shape I want.

Did I confuse you enough?

By the way I will not redesign the servo hatches. Who am I to question TF design team?
I will however lay a thicker layer of glass before I lay the final layer over tha hatches.

Fabio


Fabio _ _ _ is this the stuff you are talking about ?

I have used two ;pieces of this lead, 2 weight oz each in the front of my Skybolt.
I did not melt it. I drilled two wholes in each piece slightle smaller than the OD of metal crews but larger than the bottom threads of the metal screws and just screwed them in.

It worked beautifully.

The piece at the bottom of the pic is a weight used for balancing car and truck wheels.
I tested if it would melt about the same temperatue as the other bar.

Zor



Attachments
Click to see fullsize image.
Click for fullsize


Hide Signatures

(in reply to Doomking)
       Post #: 746

RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 11/14/2012 3:12 AM   
Doomking



Posts: 614
Score: 125
Joined: 11/17/2002
Last Login: 6/19/2013
From: North Ridgeville, OH, USA
Status: offline 		Nop ...that's what I am talking about...

Just unwind what you think you need and crumble it in your hands and put in on the plane where you needed until you balance it.
After melt it all with a propane torch and glue it in place with silicon caulking since it is vibration resistant.

Attachments
Click to see fullsize image.
Click for fullsize


Hide Signatures

(in reply to Zor)
       Post #: 747

RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 11/14/2012 3:18 AM   
Zor



Posts: 2811
Score: 183
Joined: 2/23/2009
Last Login: 6/20/2013
From: Ontario, ON, CANADA
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Doomking

Nop ...that's what I am talking about...

Just unwind what you think you need and crumble it in your hands and put in on the plane where you needed until you balance it.
After melt it all with a propane torch and glue it in place with silicon caulking since it is vibration resistant.


Ah ... OK ... I have about 3 inches of the same stuff you illustrated to laterally balance the wings of my Spectra sailplane.

I now know what you were referring to.

Thanks,

Zor

Edited to change "balnce" to "balance"

< Message edited by Zor -- 11/15/2012 1:31 AM >

Hide Signatures

(in reply to Doomking)
       Post #: 748

RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 11/15/2012 4:15 PM   
redbiscuits



Posts: 1233
Score: 150
Joined: 3/22/2009
Last Login: 6/19/2013
From: CEDAR CREEK, TX, USA
Status: offline 		I just had to post this... Sorry about the language at the end kids....



_____________________________

Gary-Waco Brother#171 If the build gets tough, always refrain from throwing things! ARCA, Austin Tx. www.austinrc.org

Hide Signatures

(in reply to Zor)
       Post #: 749

RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build - 11/15/2012 8:23 PM   
EJWash1



Posts: 405
Score: 135
Joined: 9/5/2008
Last Login: 6/20/2013
From: Scottsdale, AZ, USA
Status: offline 		Gary, that video is making it's way around the R/C web sites.

The instructor is an eagle-eyed guy that has a very cool-hand on the controls. Made the "rescue" look like a total non-event.

I don't have to deal with trees at my field, only a few cacti, but wouldn't it be nice to have an R-22 and pilot standing-by for plucking models from trees?



_____________________________

EJWash


Hide Signatures

(in reply to redbiscuits)
       Post #: 750

Page:   <<   < prev  28 29 [30] 31 32 33 34 35 36 37   next >   >>  
All Forums >> RC Airplanes >> Kit Building >> RE: Top Flite Giant P-47 Build
Page: <<   < prev  28 29 [30] 31 32 33 34 35 36 37   next >   >>  




Jump to:


 
Google 



Search | Marketplace | Event Calendar | Local Clubs | Magazine | Product Ratings | New Products | Discussion Forums

Photo Gallery | Instructor Search | Field|Track|Marina Search

Advertisers | Hobby Vendor Resources | Rate Manufacturers | Sign In/Sign Up

SITE MAP!   : :   FORUM RULES

RC Universe is a service of Internet Brands, Inc. Copyright © 2001-2013.

Charities we support that also need your help
Yorkie Rescue | Humane Society | ASPCA | Crohn's-Colitis America


0.578RCU1