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Arrogance at your field? - 8/19/2003 2:26:52 AM   
MinnFlyer



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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by *Crash*Johnson*
so in other words MinnFlyer, it isnt what you say but how you say it? [/QUOTE]

When my friend was in trouble, I asked what was wrong. He said he was getting "hit". I asked him what frequency. When he told me, I was shouting around the pits to see if anyone was on that freq without the pin. While I was trying to help, This Jerk was yelling at me and my friend instead of trying to assist us (which only made the stress level go up).

BTW, my friend DID plow his airplane in to avoid an accident...

The Jerks reply? "This guy can't even fly!"

My point is... Some people would rather just point fingers and thump a rule book than actually try to get involved with helping someone.

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Arrogance at your field? - 8/19/2003 2:37:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by MinnFlyer
When my friend was in trouble, I asked what was wrong. He said he was getting "hit". I asked him what frequency. When he told me, I was shouting around the pits to see if anyone was on that freq without the pin. While I was trying to help, This Jerk was yelling at me and my friend instead of trying to assist us (which only made the stress level go up).

BTW, my friend DID plow his airplane in to avoid an accident...

The Jerks reply? "This guy can't even fly!"

My point is... Some people would rather just point fingers and thump a rule book than actually try to get involved with helping someone. [/QUOTE]

AMEN!!!

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Arrogance at your field? - 8/19/2003 3:02:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Dioblo it is the same way in many other types of clubs, the best thing you can do is ignore the feelings you are having and give it some time and once they see you can handle yourself most of the arrogance will disappear. Make it a point to ask them as many questions as you can think of, like how would they have handled the situation, things like that, in other words pump the old farts up and make them feel important and before long they will all be defending you to their death. I think you just need to chill a bit, you know what you can do and before long they will also. Best of luck.

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Arrogance at your field? - 8/19/2003 3:44:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		rockman you have good advice there but I am not venting nor angry. I just have noticed this sort of thing with others and I find it disturbing, thats all. After coasting around different fields you do see a variety of personalities and different levels of attitutes.

I also wanted to ask if this type of behaviour exists with your club?

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Arrogance at your field? - 8/19/2003 4:24:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		Diablo, I totally understand what you're getting at. Our club president's crap doesn't stink. Just ask him. Aside from that, he's great guy and more than willing to help, if you need it or ask. He can be very intimidating though. He also will not necessarily volunteer help either. The guys in our club are a great bunch of guys. We strive to keep the pres happy and everything goes well. We do have little gripe sessions from time to time. That helps us all vent. When we fly though, we're there to fly. I'm going to put "drop the holier than thou attitude and just FLY!" on my Pica Touche when I get around to building it. Let's face it, we're all there to have fun. Don't let them get to you. They're everywhere!!

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Arrogance at your field? - 8/19/2003 10:12:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		"The takeoff pattern was hairy because you had to avoid a power line. Being a newbie I pulled up to hard on takeoff and stalled it. It went over the pits and cam down hard. "

Dialabo, if you knew you were possibly going to have trouble on the takeoff, did you ask for help before you flew? If not, why?

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Arrogance at your field? - 8/19/2003 10:26:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		everyone was in their own world, they dont fly at that field anymore for various reason including many of the club "experts" tossed it on takeoff as well. I didnt think I would have had trouble but did anyway. Heavy wind didnt help if my memory served correct. My spotter gave the clear and I was off..

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Arrogance at your field? - 8/19/2003 10:39:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Diablokid,

Just curious, which club did you join?


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Arrogance at your field? - 8/19/2003 10:47:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am now a proud member of the Prince William County Fliers.
We have a combat meet this weekend, come on down!

Where do you fly?

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Arrogance at your field? - 8/19/2003 10:57:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		There was this field that I flew at years ago and one of the members wrote a monthly article for the AMA mag and thought he was king poop!!!! A friend was just learning and he got himself really turned around bad and came over the pits. He did yell he didn't have it and even though the plane was tail walking he got control back and flew back out over the field. Now I bet we all have had a similar experience, I mean it can happer, well Mr big shot really gave him the riot act over it. A little later Mr wonderful was practicing his rolling circles and yuo you guessed it, he flew over the pits and me being the sweet and nice person that I am read him the riot act and you should have seen how unglued he became!!!! How dare you tell me when I make a mistake, I'm rated in the top 20 in pattern and I know what I am doing, well says I you will never be in the top 10 if you continue to fly over the pits. He said that it an accident and that it happens, and I said that the guy you jumped on is a beginner and can happen to a newbie, what was his excuse. Well to this day when he sees me he ignores me and it just tickles me to no end!!!!


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Arrogance at your field? - 8/19/2003 2:29:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		we have a arrogant flier or two here. theres one you can't point out his mistakes or get a ear full of abuse back, and he takes offense to landing when a guy who flys his microlight out of our field wants to take off or land. rc plane, man in a plane.. no contest to which has priority!
i've got a thread in the humor section, club characters, go have a look, see who fits from your club, for this topic, "the expert" and "safety officer" come to mind

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Arrogance at your field? - 8/19/2003 3:09:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		arrogant people suck!

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Arrogance at your field? - 8/19/2003 4:28:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think they are worse than cow poo. My old club's committee is full of them.
If there is anything they dont like , they ban it because of "safety or annoyance or something rediculous".
In order to get a ruling on hovering the chairman organised a committee meeting and only told the ones who were against hovering about it. Therefore all the anti hovering sods turned up, while the rest of us didn't. Because of this, they were able to get a unanimous vote to ban hovering at that meeting, which took effect immediately, and of course, once a rule is in place there is not much you can do about it!


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Arrogance at your field? - 8/19/2003 5:01:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Art, if that field was in the Puget Sound area, then I think I know who you are talking about. There was a deal with him at our pattern meet this past summer. Some people never change, I guess.

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Arrogance at your field? - 8/19/2003 5:11:19 PM   
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Arrogance at your field? - 8/19/2003 6:41:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		You know what? Give these guys the finger and go fly your plane. Fly safely, and within the club rules, but don't listen to these chumps, these nasty old crows sitting on the fence.
I remember a friend of mine lost control of a plane, and five old cranks were sitting on the fence, pointing in five different directions, all giving advice:
"Go up! Go down! Throttle up! Throttle back!"...
The plane was actually BEHIND them. Not ONE of those guys could actually SEE the airplane, but they all had some sage advice anyway...
Floyd Bennet Field used to be the WORST for the arrogant type you are talking about. We have "Field Marshals" in red jackets, many of whom would come out to the field just to bust people's chops, not even bringing an airplane. When I first started there, I would CRINGE on my way out to the field, knowing I was going to get harassed over something or another every time. This went on for some years, until I met ANOTHER old guy, who explained what to do:
He said "Tell them to go ****** themselves!"
You know what? He was RIGHT. And THAT is what actually WORKED. I fly safe, I follow the rules, I'm out there to have FUN, not get some powertrippy little attitude from some goofus in a field marshal jacket. And things got better after that.
There are rules to be followed, and most of them are for our mutual benefit, but BEWARE of the guys who willingly take on the job of enforcement and enjoy it a little too much. For some of them, it's not about modelling, it's about power. And, IF YOU LET THEM, yes, they can really ruin your fun.

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