JohnW
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It is sad to hear the story GrnBrt posted about the pattern flyer. That was clearly arrogance. Most of us who fly pattern, like my self, are not like that.
Dialabo, yes, there is a diff between safety and arrogance. However, I get the feeling that many feel that anytime a safety issue is pointed out by anyone other than Chip or Quique it is arrogance. Since none of us are perfect pilots, none of us are allowed to point out a dangerous situation without sounding arrogant? That is the impression I am getting.
Fixtures grumbling under their breath about someone over the pits... you miss the point... THEY WERE OVER THE PITS.
OK, here's one for you. An excellent pilot flys over the pits. As a novice pilot, what do you do? Do you remind the excellent pilot that they are over the pits or do you just let them do what they want. If you remind them, isn't that arrogance by your definition. You are overstating your worth since you are a novice pilot informing an excellent pilot how to fly?
As best I can tell, by the definitions given here, it is IMPOSSIBLE to point out any safety violation without being arrogant... so be it. I'd rather be labeled as arrogant as opposed to looking the other way as pilots fly unsafely.
Safety is EVERYONES responsibility, from novice pilots to the crappy pilots to the TOC pilots. If ANYONE, regardless of skill, sees a safety issue it is their responsibility to inform the offender. Simply and privately if possible inform the pilot of the dangerous situation they caused, make it clear that the offense needs to be avoided in the future, and offer any advice/help the pilot might use to prevent the situation in the future. Obviously you need to tailor this to the pilot. A good pilot probably knows what they just did and should only be reminded of the rule, a novice pilot might need more info than just the rule, such as help.
I'm probably one of best and safest pilots at my field, yet I've had novice pilots point out a safety issues I have caused. I thank them for doing their job and encourage them to confront ANYONE that causes safety issues, including club founders. Arrogance?
Here's a possible solution. The next time you are over the pits, loudly call out the rule violation on yourself. That will preempt the arrogant types. Then when you land, apologize for crossing the flight line. If I was sitting in the pits I'd think worlds of you and you would instantly gain my respect.
< Message edited by MonkeyBoy -- Aug 19 2003 10:32PM >
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