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New Grumman G-44 Widgeon ARF electric seaplane from Ele... - 8/12/2011 5:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		There is a new electric ARF seaplane coming that is the answer to a long held dream...Electricfly is releasing a BEAUTIFUL 51" wingspan rendition of one of my favorite full scale amphibians of all time, the Grumman Widgeon!

A very nicely done red, white and blue color scheme, nice hull design and engineering, same power system based on the 950KV electric motors as their popular PBY electric seaplane, MUCH improved motor mount design. Fiberglass hull, plastic nacelles (based on past releases, but could be glass) , plastic tip floats, built up balsa flying surfaces.

Pictures and link below. According to a source at Fly R/C, who is doing the first kit review, the suggested street price is 179.99. Sadly a lot higher than the PBY, but we all know the cost of doing business in China and the cost of transportation, materials and other stuff is increasing.

It is not in the Tower catalog, yet. As of mid August,Tower has mentioned a mid Oct release.

I have official dibs for the first kit that arrives at my LHS and they are doing a nice discount below the street price...

The only way this could have been better would have been for Electrifly to release a 60" Grumman Goose...

http://electrifly.com/largeelectrics/gpma1151.html



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RE: New Grumman G-44 Widgeon ARF electric seaplane fro... - 8/12/2011 5:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Heard about that sneak preview...we have been discussing the new Widgeon since July 30 over on RCG and I thought it was high time it was better known about over here!

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RE: New Grumman G-44 Widgeon ARF electric seaplane fro... - 8/20/2011 1:08 AM   
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RE: New Grumman G-44 Widgeon ARF electric seaplane fro... - 8/20/2011 1:13 AM   
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I never thought I'd get excited over an ARF.

I'm in! Where do I sign up?

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RE: New Grumman G-44 Widgeon ARF electric seaplane fro... - 8/20/2011 5:38 PM   
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WOW!

I never thought I'd get excited over an ARF.

I'm in! Where do I sign up?



My hobby shop already has my order and I am promised the first one in town.

The model is not yet on the Tower web site as of now, but I heard that you can call in with the kit number and order one, now.

Kit number and specs from the Electrifly web site below.

SPECIFICATIONS
Stock Number: GPMA1151
Wingspan: 51 in (1295mm)
Wing Area: 373 in2 (24.1dm2)
Weight: 4-4.5 lb (1810-2040 g)
Wing Loading: 25-28 oz/ft2 (76-85g/dm2)
Length: 36 in (915mm)
Requires: Radio system with a minimum of 4-channels; 4 micro servos; (2) 28-30-950kV outrunner motors; (2) 25 amp ESCs; (1) 3500mAh 3S 11.1V LiPo battery

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RE: New Grumman G-44 Widgeon ARF electric seaplane from... - 8/24/2011 3:07 PM   
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RE: New Grumman G-44 Widgeon ARF electric seaplane from... - 8/24/2011 5:11 PM   
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RE: New Grumman G-44 Widgeon ARF electric seaplane from... - 8/24/2011 8:58 PM   
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RE: New Grumman G-44 Widgeon ARF electric seaplane from... - 8/25/2011 6:37 PM   
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RE: New Grumman G-44 Widgeon ARF electric seaplane from... - 8/25/2011 7:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just a quick note to comment on the setup shown. I initially built the Widgeon as per the manual with the water rudder and was very pleased with how effective it was. Unfortunately, our local water flying site has quite a bit of vegetation as you can see, and soon enough the Widgeon was trailing a multi-species pennant. While it didn't seem to noticeably affect the handling, the looks did suffer. I do nearly all of my float flying from shore instead of a dock or boat, so I removed the water rudder and programmed differential thrust into my Futaba 10C as you can see in the video. Honestly, the water rudder gives tighter turns than shown and if weeds are not an issue for you the stock configuration works very well.

As for the review, that issue is off the press and subscriber copies should be in the mail now. I think the on sale newsstand date for that issue is right after Labor Day. It won't be hard to spot, the Widgeon is on the cover.

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RE: New Grumman G-44 Widgeon ARF electric seaplane from... - 9/7/2011 7:45 AM   
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RE: New Grumman G-44 Widgeon ARF electric seaplane from... - 9/8/2011 1:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm in on this, but the flots look a bit goonie. That is, it looks like there's a "flat" going down the center where they are joined.

Tayler, what say on that?

Tayler, do you want to part with your's now that your all done with it?

I asked first.

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RE: New Grumman G-44 Widgeon ARF electric seaplane from... - 9/8/2011 4:11 AM   
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I am not sure who you are asking, but since I have one I will try to answer. Yes, the tip floats have a raised center spine. It feels to be about 3/32 high. Sorry, I didn't feel like finding a ruler to measure it.

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RE: New Grumman G-44 Widgeon ARF electric seaplane from... - 9/8/2011 10:45 PM   
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Sorry I spelled your name incorrectly.

Saw the article BTW. Nice Mag, you do a good job with it. Certainly doesn't look like the "Old Days" Mags.

Were ypou around in the Old Days?

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RE: New Grumman G-44 Widgeon ARF electric seaplane from... - 9/9/2011 7:29 AM   
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Thanks for the kind words on the magazine. It is a lot of work, but also fun. Can't really ask for much more than that.

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RE: New Grumman G-44 Widgeon ARF electric seaplane from... - 9/11/2011 4:14 AM   
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RE: New Grumman G-44 Widgeon ARF electric seaplane from... - 9/11/2011 8:53 PM   
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Nope and no one will for a while, yet.....Tower currently shows the release date is sometime in late Sept at the very earliest. My money is on mid to late October, based on past performances...

It would be an exceedingly rare event for a new ARF to make it to market early.

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RE: New Grumman G-44 Widgeon ARF electric seaplane from... - 9/12/2011 3:38 AM   
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RE: New Grumman G-44 Widgeon ARF electric seaplane from... - 9/13/2011 1:08 PM   
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RE: New Grumman G-44 Widgeon ARF electric seaplane from... - 9/13/2011 2:04 PM   
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RE: New Grumman G-44 Widgeon ARF electric seaplane from... - 9/13/2011 10:02 PM   
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RE: New Grumman G-44 Widgeon ARF electric seaplane from... - 9/13/2011 10:47 PM   
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See how he used each prop to turn the thing.

are all water twins set up this way?

How does he do that with his TX?

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RE: New Grumman G-44 Widgeon ARF electric seaplane from... - 9/14/2011 2:10 AM   
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Thayer's video.

See how he used each prop to turn the thing.

are all water twins set up this way?

How does he do that with his TX?

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A good number of twin seaplanes with computer radios have been programmed to have that feature. The second throttle is placed on an aux channel and is slaved to the throttle channel and each throttle channel is mixed to the rudder channel. Most capable computer radios with several P-mixes can be set up to do this.

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RE: New Grumman G-44 Widgeon ARF electric seaplane from... - 9/30/2011 8:12 PM   
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