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    Anyone Flying the New Phoenix Models Sukhoi .46 From To... - 8/19/2003 4:48:40 AM   
    Swat Cop



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    From: Kissimmee, FL, USA
    Status: offline     		Anyone out there Flying the new Phoenix Models Sukhoi 46 ARF?
    How is the performance, general overall quality and covering?

    http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXEDN8&P=0

    At only $129.99 I might need one.

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    Anyone Flying the New Phoenix Models Sukhoi .46 From To... - 8/19/2003 11:52:55 PM   
    ptarp


     

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    From: Wood River, IL, USA
    Status: offline     		I would also like to hear any info in this plane(or their .40 size Giles)

    Regards,
    Philip

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    I HAD one - 8/20/2003 9:12:11 PM   
    wood



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    From: Rice Lake, WI, USA
    Status: offline     		I saw this airplane at the Toledo show and it was so awesome looking I had to have one, it looked as nice as the Yellow Aircraft models!!

    But, they did not have any at the show to sell, I had to order it and wait two weeks to get it. When I opened the box I was in disbelief. It had blemishes all over it , like the wing tip was rolled on a table top with dirt on it. Dents in the balsa, warped aileron.

    But the good news on this airplane if your willing to take a chance is, that it is basically a 90% copy of the Kyosho Sukhoi, right down to the markings on the firewall for mounting the engine. From what I hear, people really like how the Kyosho sukhoi flies. I think that one was designed around a YS 53.


    good luck, and if you decide to get one post some pics for us.

    WOOD

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    just got mine - 8/25/2003 8:32:13 PM   
    flynboy-RCU



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    From: Caryville, TN, USA
    Status: offline     		I just ordered one of these and received it Sat. This is only the second ARF I have had and I was overwhelmed when I opened the box. Everything is packed very nicely and in separate bags to protect it. The workmanship is excellent, and the finish is flawless. It is covered in what appears to be either mono or ultracote, and there was only 1 small wrinkle in the elevator, which came right out with Mr. Heatgun. The cowl is sweet!. All fiberglass, pre-painted and matches perfectly. I spent prob 3 hours (excluding glue drying time) and only have to mount the cowl and run the radio gear. I was very pleased. (especially considering the price). I'll try to update it once I've had a chance to fly it.

    right out of the box:

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    Anyone Flying the New Phoenix Models Sukhoi .46 From To... - 8/25/2003 8:33:08 PM   
    flynboy-RCU



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    Status: offline     		a little bit of glue and engine:

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    Anyone Flying the New Phoenix Models Sukhoi .46 From To... - 8/25/2003 8:33:52 PM   
    flynboy-RCU



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    Status: offline     		One more, just the cowl:

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    Sukhoi - 8/25/2003 8:42:46 PM   
    Swat Cop



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    Status: offline     		Wow, looks great! Can't wait to get mine, it should be here around Fri. Flynboy, what engine are you using? The engine looks like it will all fit inside the cowl.

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    sukhoi - 8/25/2003 8:48:32 PM   
    Swat Cop



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    Status: offline     		It looks from your pictures like all the control surfaces are prehinged. Or did you do them before taking the picture?

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    Anyone Flying the New Phoenix Models Sukhoi .46 From To... - 8/25/2003 8:50:46 PM   
    flynboy-RCU



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    Status: offline     		come already pre-hinged with non-ca hinges. The hinges are also pinned with little metal pins (I'll try to get a pic tonight). They did a much better job than I could, the gap on the surfaces is from nothing to maybe enough to slide a sheet of paper through.

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    Anyone Flying the New Phoenix Models Sukhoi .46 From To... - 8/25/2003 8:53:04 PM   
    flynboy-RCU



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    Status: offline     		That's a gms 47. I thought I'd try it out and if it doesn't have enough pull, I'm going to put in a saito 72. The engine fits in the cowl, but unfortunately the huge gms muffler does not, so I'll have to trim quite a bit off the cowl. The good thing is that the engine mounts at -45degrees, so the muffler exits directly underneath.

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    Sukhoi - 8/25/2003 9:00:38 PM   
    Swat Cop



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    Status: offline     		I am planning on using an Evolution .46 so I will be anxious to hear how yours flys on the .47. I would rather put a four stroke in it but I have this .46 sitting here with no plane since the demise of my Sig Somethin Extra last week.

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    Anyone Flying the New Phoenix Models Sukhoi .46 From To... - 8/26/2003 8:04:26 AM   
    glowplug



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    From: Weirton, WV, USA
    Status: offline     		I just ordered one of these today......flynboy, yours looks great! I'm looking very forward to getting mine. I've heard that they were great flyers, but the covering was bad.....I think that the ones that Tower has have been updated and now have better covering. At $130, it seems like a great deal. I'm going to put a TT Pro .46 in mine, I've heard that a strong .46 is a good match for it.

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    Anyone Flying the New Phoenix Models Sukhoi .46 From To... - 8/26/2003 9:41:02 AM   
    SunShyne



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    im glad to see you guys having luck with the Sukhoi. Nice to see a low cost plane thats actually decent quality

    hooray!

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    Brilliant Sukhoi! - 8/26/2003 11:59:48 AM   
    Christie



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    From: Potchefstroom, North West Province, SOUTH AFRICA
    Status: offline     		Hi guys,

    I got the .46 Sukhoi as a Christmas present and was very impressed with the build quality and the excellent wood used. Originally I installed a .46 Irvine, but at the altitude I fly at, it just wasn't enough. I converted it to a .61 OS with a pitts muffler and it became an incredible plane.

    A few things to watch on this plane (Due to different levels of experience of builders/flyers who might read this post I'm just putting in everything I can think of. Sorry if this bores anybody): - Ensure that the pre-hinged and pinned ailerons are properly hinged. On my plane both ailerons were properly pinned, but there was no glue in the hinges.

    - Get the CG right. With the Cg at the forward end of the range this plane is as easy as pie to fly, move it towards the back of the range and it will scare even the most experienced of flyers.

    - Skip the spats. Even on our tarmac runway, I had problems with my spats scraping, and deciced to only use them when I fly at a show.

    - Ditch the wheels. Those foam wheels are light, but they were basically shot after 10 flights. Get proper wheels.

    - Don't yank the elevator. As I said before, this plane flies great, but if you don't respect the fact that it's a copy of a thoroughbred, your gonna get bitten!

    - Don't try to land it like a sport plane. It WILL tip-stall. Fly the plane in.


    That's about it folks.

    Hope you enjoy your Sukhois. Mine was completely trashed a while ago due to radio interference and I'm trying very hard to find one at a reasonable price here in SA to replace it. Due to it's popularity here, it sells at the same price as world models ARF's though!!

    Yours

    Christie Saayman

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