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    Anyone Flying the New Phoenix Models Sukhoi .46 From To... - 9/5/2003 8:11:17 PM   
    glowplug



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    thanks TD1. It really did meet my expectations. I must admit, I was a little nervous after doing some reading on here, but all was OK. I hope that you're right with saying the newer models have been improved so that nobody else picks up a bum one like yours was.

    inter....I had the same exact problem with the throttle pushrod. Yes, I used the middle servo......the pushrod is kind of off to the side of the tank....here's what I did to keep it stiff: I cut a small piece of 1/8 ply, about 2" long and 1/3" wide, and epoxied it to the former in front of the wing in line with the throttle pushrod. I was going to drill a hole through the ply and run the pushrod sleeve through it, but I was lazy, and the pushrod was already installed and set up in the radio, so I just epoxied the pushrod sleeve to my piece of ply to hold it stiff. It eliminated the problem and works perfectly. If it doesn't hold, I'll drill a hole through the ply piece and run it through there. Let me know if you want to see a pic!

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    Anyone Flying the New Phoenix Models Sukhoi .46 From To... - 9/5/2003 8:20:30 PM   
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    Yes please!!!!!!

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    Anyone Flying the New Phoenix Models Sukhoi .46 From To... - 9/5/2003 8:28:31 PM   
    glowplug



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    inter, no problem! I'm at work right now though, so I'll do it when I get home. Send your email address to: [email]michael.damico@comcast.net[/email] and I'll send some to you.

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    Anyone Flying the New Phoenix Models Sukhoi .46 From To... - 9/5/2003 8:31:34 PM   
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    Cheers,

    Email on its way.

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    Anyone Flying the New Phoenix Models Sukhoi .46 From To... - 9/5/2003 8:36:53 PM   
    glowplug



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    inter, cool.....you'll have some pics of the setup later.

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    RE: Anyone Flying the New Phoenix Models Sukhoi .46 Fro... - 9/8/2003 11:23:44 PM   
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    Well, I maidened my Phoenix Models SU-31 Sukhoi today and it flew great! The flying conditions were less then perfect, 10-15 MPH cross winds. Landing was challenging but I did it four times all successful. This little Sukhoi floats a lot more than my GSP Katana I am used to flying.

    The first flight with the Evolution .46 I had a wood Zinger 11X6 prop and it flew like crap, too much prop. I switched to a Master Airscrew 10X8 and it was awsome. I flew tight loops, large loops, snap rolls, aileron rolls, inverted, cuban eights and attempted some knife edge flight but it won't hold a knife edge. It might knife edge better with the CG farther to the rear. Vertical is not unlimited but it pulls the Sukhoi around with authority, I wouldn't consider it underpowered.

    The overall quality I would have to say is outstanding. I read some of the threads from people in Africa and other places and all I can say is they must have made improvements. The covering job is great, parts fit is great, wood quality is very good, even the hardware is good. The only thing I didn't like was the Fisher Price looking pilot they have in there. I yanked him out and found a much better replacment for $5.00 at Walmart, he even has a cloth shirt. I would say you can't beat the price for $129.00 at Tower you can't go wrong.

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    RE: Anyone Flying the New Phoenix Models Sukhoi .46 Fro... - 9/8/2003 11:28:43 PM   
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    RE: Anyone Flying the New Phoenix Models Sukhoi .46 Fro... - 9/8/2003 11:38:22 PM   
    Swat Cop



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    Phoenix Sukhoi

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    RE: Anyone Flying the New Phoenix Models Sukhoi .46 Fro... - 9/9/2003 5:25:21 AM   
    glowplug



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    bike466, increase your rudder throw a bit more and it should hold a knife edge nicely.
    I'm glad to hear your flight report was as favorable as mine was!!
    I got to fly mine again today 3 times in much better conditions and she flew great.......on one flight, I must have been having a blast, because I ran the tank empty, and it deadsticked......I was a bit nervous of a potential tip-stall, but she floated in perfectly with me just keeping up a bit of speed....no problems.

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    RE: Anyone Flying the New Phoenix Models Sukhoi .46 Fro... - 9/9/2003 10:44:00 AM   
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    Thx for the pics glowplug,

    I didn't use the same method as u, however the pics spurred me on

    Bike, how would u compare the Katana to the litttle Sukhoi, (besides the obvious large plane vs small plane physics) also are u happy with the servos on the Katana (did u use 475's on ailerons and 605's on tail surfaces?)

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    RE: Anyone Flying the New Phoenix Models Sukhoi .46 Fro... - 9/9/2003 12:18:11 PM   
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    The Sukhoi and the Katana are apples and oranges. The Sukhoi is fun to fly but the Katana is a blast and flys much better. To answer your Katana question I have 605s on the rudder and elevator and I 425s on the ailerons, both have worked well for me the servos are relatively inexpensive and I have had no problems with servo centering or stripping ( knock on wood).

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    RE: Anyone Flying the New Phoenix Models Sukhoi .46 Fro... - 9/9/2003 12:24:34 PM   
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    On my Sukhoi, I used a slightly larger fuel tank and used the left most servo in the servo tray as you look at the tray from the tail with the fuse inverted. I just ran the pushrod sleeve along side the tank and through the fire wall. The pushrod kind of bows around the side of the tank slightly but slides smoothly.

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    RE: Anyone Flying the New Phoenix Models Sukhoi .46 Fro... - 9/9/2003 12:41:25 PM   
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    Good point on the tank,

    What brand did u use, cause I'd also like a bigger tank that fits relatively well

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    RE: Anyone Flying the New Phoenix Models Sukhoi .46 Fro... - 9/9/2003 2:23:51 PM   
    glowplug



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    I like the bigger tank idea too.....I KNOW I wasn't up there for more than 10 minutes when I deadsticked.......the engine is still running rich...but I'd like to get at least 15 minutes out of it.........
    inter, glad you got that pushrod worked out! I think almost any tank would work, since that area is so big!

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    RE: Anyone Flying the New Phoenix Models Sukhoi .46 Fro... - 9/14/2003 12:59:21 PM   
    Swat Cop