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    RE: Saito 72 vs. O.S. 46 FX - 9/26/2003 6:22:27 PM   
    Swat Cop



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    Status: offline     		Thats good, I tried to fit the stock muffler for my Evolution .46 mounting the engine at the 45' and 90' angles and it would not fit without dremel surgery. I got a strap on pitts and I only had to cut a slot about 1 1/2 inches in the bottom.

    (from 09-19-03)
    I had a little mishap with my Sukhoi today, not sure what happened but I was flying for about 2-3 min when it went deadstick. I didn't hear the engine go out, another guy was running his engine up behind me and I didn't notice mine until I noticed visually the prop was not turning. To make a long story short I was in a bad position and had to make a 180' turn in order to make the field and avoid the lake or fence, and was too low. I cracked the right wing bent the gear and did some minor damage to the cowl. It feels like the crank shaft on the Evolution .46 is broken. I am not sure if this happened in the air causing the dead stick or impact with the ground, ground I am guessing but it didn't even break the prop. So, I guess I will be making repairs and since I need a new engine I will be looking for a Saito .72. If anyone knows where I can get a good price on one let me know. The best I have found yet is $224.00 and that seems pretty standard everywhere.


    I pulled the Evolution .46 apart last night and sure enough the crank snapped and it wasn't from impact with the ground. There were little pieces of metal above and below the piston, so I am pretty sure it was coming apart while the engine was running. The impact with the ground from the deadstick was not very hard, didn't even break the prop and I found the cracked wing was only the balsa sheeting. The engine was not lean either, if anything it was over rich. The combustion chamber and piston were black but not overly carboned up. The engine was less then a year old. Oh well, its Saito time.

    < Message edited by bike466 -- 9/26/2003 1:26:42 PM >

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    RE: Saito 72 vs. O.S. 46 FX - 9/26/2003 6:26:42 PM   
    Hopsterguy



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    Status: offline     		Wow... at this price point I had to jump on it. If it goes really far down I'll pick up a spare later. But don't want to miss it now.

    -Steve

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    RE: Saito 72 vs. O.S. 46 FX - 9/26/2003 9:17:11 PM   
    DLT


     

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    Status: offline     		Ordered the Sukhoi yesterday...almost ordered the Giles today...anyone flown the Giles, it sure looks good. Think i'm going to put the OS 160 FX in the nose...just kidding!!

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    RE: Saito 72 vs. O.S. 46 FX - 9/26/2003 9:22:59 PM   
    Hopsterguy



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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: DLT

    Ordered the Sukhoi yesterday...almost ordered the Giles today...anyone flown the Giles, it sure looks good. Think i'm going to put the OS 160 FX in the nose...just kidding!!


    Ah, heck. Why not just go for a DA-50!

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    RE: Anyone Flying the New Phoenix Models Sukhoi .46 Fro... - 9/26/2003 9:42:49 PM   
    SunShyne



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    RE: Anyone Flying the New Phoenix Models Sukhoi .46 Fro... - 9/27/2003 2:54:47 AM   
    cfossa


     

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    From: Stow, MA, USA
    Status: online     		I've never had a model from Phoenix Models before, but this was just too low to not buy!

    You can't even buy a basic trainer ARF for $88 ... hopefully I'll be as happy with the quality and flight characteristics as you guys. The other ARFs I have are GP Extra 300S and Sig Somethin Extra. I was very pleased with both of these and they are still flying great. Also have a GP Spacewalker, but got sidetracked assembling it when the flying weather hit.

    Carl

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    RE: Anyone Flying the New Phoenix Models Sukhoi .46 Fro... - 9/27/2003 7:44:29 AM   
    jcflysrc



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    Status: offline     		Well I couldn't even finish reading this thread until I went to Tower and got one for myself. $92.00 shipped! OH MY GOSH!

    These have been good flight reports and I hope I am pleased with mine. If it gets here and looks as good as everyone claims theres has, it will be the best buy I have made in a 40 size plane. I can't wait to get my hands on it. I am thinking I'm going to put a Magnum XLS 52 on it. Should help with balance issues as it weighs in at 17.4 oz w/muffler. And this thing likes to rev, and it's about the same size as the current crop of 46's. Should be a good combo. I'll let ya know.

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    RE: Saito 72 vs. O.S. 46 FX - 9/28/2003 4:02:20 AM   
    hiflyn72


     

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    Status: offline     		there seems to be noone who bought the Giles. I bought it but have not completed the build yet. That said the plane looks awesome but the hardware is TERRIBLE. the elevator and rudder pushrods were junk and the nuts/bolts seem cheesy. I am using a saito 80 (more power!!) and I had to change the motor mount. Now waiting for a new RX to come in. Should be flight ready in about a week (just ordered the RX) Will keep you posted.

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    RE: Saito 72 vs. O.S. 46 FX - 9/28/2003 5:13:30 AM   
    Snyperx


     

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    Status: offline     		I just picked up the Giles and Sukhoi for $158 shipped!!! The shipping was free (Saver's CLub) and had a $10 coupon. Wife should be happy.....NOT!!! SO much for the Sig Somethin' extra being my Winter project. LOL!!!

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    RE: Anyone Flying the New Phoenix Models Sukhoi .46 Fro... - 9/28/2003 5:53:33 AM   
    jcflysrc



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    Status: offline     		$158 for both of them shipped...that is awesome. Thats like two planes for the price of one. Let us know how it flies(Giles). I may have to get one too. Just too good a deal!

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    RE: Saito 72 vs. O.S. 46 FX - 9/28/2003 6:29:22 AM   
    Snyperx


     

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    Exactly. For the price I just could not let it go. Not sure when I will have them up, but atleast I will have them waitng in the wings(HAH...get it....waiting in the wings)

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    RE: Anyone Flying the New Phoenix Models Sukhoi .46 Fro... - 9/28/2003 6:55:20 AM   
    jcflysrc



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    RE: Anyone Flying the New Phoenix Models Sukhoi .46 Fro... - 9/28/2003 7:10:55 AM   
    glowplug



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    Status: offline     		Aeronaut, be sure to keep us posted on how the Magnum XLS .52 flies it!

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    RE: Anyone Flying the New Phoenix Models Sukhoi .46 Fro... - 9/29/2003 12:40:21 AM   
    jcflysrc



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    Status: offline     		No problem, I will let ya know. It is actually between the Mag and a 70 Surpass II. I was thinking the Surpass might be a little heavy for it. Some have said that it comes out a little nose heavy, and I would like to avoid any unreasonable balance issues. The Mag will fly it just fine I feel sure. Opinions welcome. I'll keep ya posted

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    RE: Anyone Flying the New Phoenix Models Sukhoi .46 Fro... - 9/29/2003 3:19:21 PM   
    Swat Cop



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    Status: offline     		I found another great deal on a cheap .40 size aerobat. I just found that CHIEFAIRCRAFT.COM has the Hangar 9 Sport CAP 232 .40 size scale ARF in stock and selling for $79.95. This sounds more like a .60 size to me but its listed as a .40 size with the following dimensions:

    Wingspan: 60 in. (1524 mm)
    Length: 56 in (1422.2 mm)

    Wing Area: 594 sq in (38.3 sq dm)

    Weight: 6-7 1/2 lb (2.72-3.4 dm)
    Recommended Engines: 2-cycle: .40-.58; 4-cycle: .56-.72

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    RE: Anyone Flying the New Phoenix Models Sukhoi .46 Fro... - 9/29/2003 5:42:16 PM   
    SunShyne



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