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RE: Is a redcat xt as good and durable as an hpi baja 5b - 8/31/2011 11:56 PM   
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I dont understand you redcat fanboys. You honestly think what Sheo said is marketing? He is right... Generally the more you pay in this hobby the better the quality. You honestly cant deny that the redcat is a low end 1/5th scale. It can't even be paired in the same group as MCD, FG, HARM, Lauterbach, Hurrax, Kamitiro, Contrast, and so on. It is in the Smartech, Nutech, Rovan, KM, FS, ShengQi, SY, and CEN group and in that group its definitely one of the better options.
However after thinking about it I would go with the Baja if I were you simply because of the parts available, customization options, and Deal of the Day at Daves.


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Hey Bbuzz, he won't and you know it. He will sit behind the computer and talk trash all day and never back it up.

@Sherv As far as you buying a Zynit, I will believe that when I see it. All I see from you its lots of talk with absolutely ZERO actions to back your mouth up. Its simple, put up or SHUT UP. I will gladly make the 10hr drive to Virginia to put that Shervtech , FG MT, MCD, Zynit , nitro or whatever else you plan on buying between now and then in its place. That is if Buzz doesn't handle you first.



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RE: Is a redcat xt as good and durable as an hpi baja 5b - 9/1/2011 12:12 AM   
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I'm not racing hugh with my nutech because i took the engine off today. I'm selling it. You know why? Nutech, Redcat, Smartech, FS, SY, and so on.... No matter how much money you put into it... It's still low end.


See its one thing to buy redcat because you dont have the funds or cant justify spending more on the hobby. Thats fine... But you guys make it sound like you buy redcats because they are the best and theres no reason why someone should buy a proper machine that costs over 1.2k in a roller configuration.

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RE: Is a redcat xt as good and durable as an hpi baja 5b - 9/1/2011 1:08 AM   
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RE: Is a redcat xt as good and durable as an hpi baja 5b - 9/1/2011 2:21 AM   
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RE: Is a redcat xt as good and durable as an hpi baja 5b - 9/1/2011 2:32 AM   
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RE: Is a redcat xt as good and durable as an hpi baja 5b - 9/1/2011 2:34 AM   
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RE: Is a redcat xt as good and durable as an hpi baja 5b - 9/4/2011 6:31 AM   
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RE: Is a redcat xt as good and durable as an hpi baja 5b - 9/4/2011 9:37 AM   
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I dont understand you redcat fanboys. You honestly think what Sheo said is marketing? He is right... Generally the more you pay in this hobby the better the quality. You honestly cant deny that the redcat is a low end 1/5th scale. It can't even be paired in the same group as MCD, FG, HARM, Lauterbach, Hurrax, Kamitiro, Contrast, and so on. It is in the Smartech, Nutech, Rovan, KM, FS, ShengQi, SY, and CEN group and in that group its definitely one of the better options.
However after thinking about it I would go with the Baja if I were you simply because of the parts available, customization options, and Deal of the Day at Daves.


so by ur logic, u woodnt hav any problem paying 2,000 fer a new stock 5b kit wit no motor or elects?
wood u b singing da same song if a 5b roller cost 3,000? how much r u willing 2 pay for "top quality"?

rc cars can only get so xpensive, then ur just paying 4 da brand name. da days of spending alot 4 quality is & has bin over 4 us rc enthusiasts. case in point.
how much was a top quality lipo batt 2 yrs ago? & how much is a top quality batt 2 day?
wut about 2.4ghz systms wen dey 1st came out? how about now?

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RE: Is a redcat xt as good and durable as an hpi baja 5b - 9/4/2011 11:05 AM   
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I dont understand you redcat fanboys. You honestly think what Sheo said is marketing? He is right... Generally the more you pay in this hobby the better the quality. You honestly cant deny that the redcat is a low end 1/5th scale. It can't even be paired in the same group as MCD, FG, HARM, Lauterbach, Hurrax, Kamitiro, Contrast, and so on. It is in the Smartech, Nutech, Rovan, KM, FS, ShengQi, SY, and CEN group and in that group its definitely one of the better options.
However after thinking about it I would go with the Baja if I were you simply because of the parts available, customization options, and Deal of the Day at Daves.


so by ur logic, u woodnt hav any problem paying 2,000 fer a new stock 5b kit wit no motor or elects?
wood u b singing da same song if a 5b roller cost 3,000? how much r u willing 2 pay for ''top quality''?

rc cars can only get so xpensive, then ur just paying 4 da brand name. da days of spending alot 4 quality is & has bin over 4 us rc enthusiasts. case in point.
how much was a top quality lipo batt 2 yrs ago? & how much is a top quality batt 2 day?
wut about 2.4ghz systms wen dey 1st came out? how about now?


With the greatest of respect, you have been here a galactic milisecond. This fourm has a lot of history of fanboys taking one side or another and causing massive disruption. It was all out war at several points in this forum's history.

Everyone needs to get less defensive about their products and that includes but is not limited to...

People attacking others simply for buying a cheap clone
The 5b fanclub.
The Nutech fanclub
The Redcat fanclub.

It's starting to get out of hand again, and many of you will remember what happened the last time it got out of hand...a lot of members got banned. People need to realise that once you start adding parts to compensate for the weaknesses of these cheap RCs there is nothing to choose between them. Ultimately, they all cost the same.

For me, the really funny part is people thinking the HPI 5b cars are 'top quality'. They are not. At least not until you've plowed $1000 of upgrades into them, and the same goes for all these cheaper cars too.

As for 'the days of buying top quality is over for enthusiasts', I have no clue where you get that from. There has never been a time where it's more important to buy quality in the first place. With the economic difficulties, companies are taking more and more shortcuts in the design and material quality of RC cars. Look at traxxas and HPI, recycling the same chassis over and over again with no attention to the weak points that have been known for years.

As for people paying thousands of dollars for rollers. Yes they do. Say hello to Harm, FG, Lauterbacher, Elcon, and many other brands that take their racing heritage seriously.

Save some pennies Xerxes, buy a Mugen or Xray, you'll see what I mean.

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RE: Is a redcat xt as good and durable as an hpi baja 5b - 9/4/2011 4:29 PM   
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Save some pennies Xerxes, buy a Mugen or Xray, you'll see what I mean.

do dey make 1/5 scale buggys & monstr truks?

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RE: Is a redcat xt as good and durable as an hpi baja 5b - 9/4/2011 4:46 PM   
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RE: Is a redcat xt as good and durable as an hpi baja 5b - 9/4/2011 6:16 PM   
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RE: Is a redcat xt as good and durable as an hpi baja 5b - 9/4/2011 7:04 PM   
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Save some pennies Xerxes, buy a Mugen or Xray, you'll see what I mean.

do dey make 1/5 scale buggys & monstr truks?


No they don't, but I highly doubt (judging from your post) that you are about to drop $2000 on a rolling chassis, so there isn't much point telling you to buy the top of the range elcon or harm. The point is those two brands will restore your faith that quality at the top IS still quality.

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RE: Is a redcat xt as good and durable as an hpi baja 5b - 9/4/2011 8:47 PM   
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the high end cars cost more cos they don't need much, if anything, in the way of upgrades to be durable, fast and competetive, they are designed specifically for racing...lower spec cars do need the upgrades to be more durable.....however the big names aren't just more reliable they also have better chassis/handling attributes that comes from the design and geometry etc that's why they are dominant in the european racing scene...imo you can spend a lot on getting cheaper cars to be reliable but their handling will still be somewhat lacking compared to higher end cars.....you gets what you pay for still rings true.

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RE: Is a redcat xt as good and durable as an hpi baja 5b - 9/4/2011 9:18 PM   
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don't forget laut, fg leopard comp and dare i say it , now the hurrax rc's

the high end cars cost more cos they don't need much, if anything, in the way of upgrades to be durable, fast and competetive, they are designed specifically for racing...lower spec cars do need the upgrades to be more durable.....however the big names aren't just more reliable they also have better chassis/handling attributes that comes from the design and geometry etc that's why they are dominant in the european racing scene...imo you can spend a lot on getting cheaper cars to be reliable but their handling will still be somewhat lacking compared to higher end cars.....you gets what you pay for still rings true.


This is all fine and good if you are racing and can find any tracks that do it competitively. Here in North America large scale racing is not that big and in most places none existent unfortunately. So many times a lower end car is just fine. One of the big races here in the states if you can call it big was at LargescaleRC.com track. In the 4 wheel drive class even thaw there where some higher end cars the Redcat won.

If they get the diff case problem fixed and with the parts I all ready have I can have a decent XB up graded to be reliable for under $900. Can I get a higher end buggy for that? I understand what you are saying but unless you are racing much of the time a low end vehicle is just fine.

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RE: Is a redcat xt as good and durable as an hpi baja 5b - 9/5/2011 6:39 AM   
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Save some pennies Xerxes, buy a Mugen or Xray, you'll see what I mean.

do dey make 1/5 scale buggys & monstr truks?


No they don't, but I highly doubt (judging from your post) that you are about to drop $2000 on a rolling chassis, so there isn't much point telling you to buy the top of the range elcon or harm. The point is those two brands will restore your faith that quality at the top IS still quality.
ur rite. il nevr pay 2000 on a bloody roller. da savage flux hp was da biggst waste of money n ill nevr spend dat much, on any brand, agen.

but heers da kickr. u say xerxes shood save up n get a mugen or xray.
y wood i spent dat much on thos 2 brands, wen im perfictly content wit my redcats?
sinse im not a 'core racer dude, thers no need 4 a xtremly high quality, xpensive vehicle.
as 46u sed, in most cases, 4 da average joe, not a core competetiv racer dude, a redcat is just fine.

fine enuff 4 xerxes. i has3 redcats now, & im deciding on my 4th. eithr a 1/5 dune runner or 1/5 rampage mt.
& ill b funding my next redcat wit da money made frum pawning da savage flux hp moneypit.

i luv redcat. i also luv wen im whippn around a parkin lot or flyn up da street & sumbody sez " sc10"?
my replys always da same. " nah. redcat, (pause), uv nevr herd of em"

i also luv da fact dat sumbody saw a window. an opening. sum1 sed 1/5 scales r cool, but they dont need 2 cost ovr 1000.
& 4 dat, xerxes is quite gratefull.

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RE: Is a redcat xt as good and durable as an hpi baja 5b - 9/5/2011 6:56 AM   
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RE: Is a redcat xt as good and durable as an hpi baja 5b - 9/5/2011 11:15 AM   
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Save some pennies Xerxes, buy a Mugen or Xray, you'll see what I mean.

do dey make 1/5 scale buggys & monstr truks?


No they don't, but I highly doubt (judging from your post) that you are about to drop $2000 on a rolling chassis, so there isn't much point telling you to buy the top of the range elcon or harm. The point is those two brands will restore your faith that quality at the top IS still quality.
ur rite. il nevr pay 2000 on a bloody roller. da savage flux hp was da biggst waste of money n ill nevr spend dat much, on any brand, agen.

but heers da kickr. u say xerxes shood save up n get a mugen or xray.
y wood i spent dat much on thos 2 brands, wen im perfictly content wit my redcats?
sinse im not a 'core racer dude, thers no need 4 a xtremly high quality, xpensive vehicle.
as 46u sed, in most cases, 4 da average joe, not a core competetiv racer dude, a redcat is just fine.

fine enuff 4 xerxes. i has3 redcats now, & im deciding on my 4th. eithr a 1/5 dune runner or 1/5 rampage mt.
& ill b funding my next redcat wit da money made frum pawning da savage flux hp moneypit.

i luv redcat. i also luv wen im whippn around a parkin lot or flyn up da street & sumbody sez '' sc10''?
my replys always da same. '' nah. redcat, (pause), uv nevr herd of em''

i also luv da fact dat sumbody saw a window. an opening. sum1 sed 1/5 scales r cool, but they dont need 2 cost ovr 1000.
& 4 dat, xerxes is quite gratefull.


I see your point. But look at it from my point of view. I've tried the expensive and the cheap. My position is that it's better to go straight to the high quality stuff, pay a bit more and not need a bunch of hopups.

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RE: Is a redcat xt as good and durable as an hpi baja 5b - 9/5/2011 1:37 PM   
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If they get the diff case problem fixed and with the parts I all ready have I can have a decent XB up graded to be reliable for under $900. Can I get a higher end buggy for that? I understand what you are saying but unless you are racing much of the time a low end vehicle is just fine.



I'm not sure why you say there is a diff case problem. There have been a few failures, but we are still not sure what is causing it. For sure, there have been only a few people that have problems out of the thousands sold now. I bought 20 diff cases in the begining, and I still have 18 left. If Redcat was selling alot of diff cases, they would certainly know there is a problem.

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RE: Is a redcat xt as good and durable as an hpi baja 5b - 9/5/2011 2:01 PM   
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If they get the diff case problem fixed and with the parts I all ready have I can have a decent XB up graded to be reliable for under $900. Can I get a higher end buggy for that? I understand what you are saying but unless you are racing much of the time a low end vehicle is just fine.



I'm not sure why you say there is a diff case problem. There have been a few failures, but we are still not sure what is causing it. For sure, there have been only a few people that have problems out of the thousands sold now. I bought 20 diff cases in the begining, and I still have 18 left. If Redcat was selling alot of diff cases, they would certainly know there is a problem.


Rob I have read where one user had 6 diff cases go bad and too many others with the same problem. I am not saying every one is having a problem but there are too many having the problem not to do some serious investigating. I think the XB, MT have great potential.

Post #23 put large scale forums.com where the ** are.
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http://www.redcatrampageforum.com/showthread.php?t=5410

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RE: Is a redcat xt as good and durable as an hpi baja 5b - 9/5/2011 5:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Rob if he was the only one to have this problem then I would not be concerned but he is not the only one. I see where 7075 RC is thinking about making some alloy cases but I would like to see Red Cat come up with a better plastic case do to weight. One of the many things I like about the XB is it is around 19 pounds but if you start adding to much alloy then the weight will go up. Another thing I do not understand it seems to only be the rear diff housing and have not heard of any one having problems with the front one. Wonder why this is.

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RE: Is a redcat xt as good and durable as an hpi baja 5b - 9/5/2011 6:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		I applaud 7075RC for the aftermarket products they are selling for Redcat but I don't think there is an epidemic of bad diff cases that warrants this level of concern for a $500 entry level buggy. I believe that there may be some else that is causing the diff case problems and it may be limited to a few users. No disrespect to 46u but you keep bringing up the same concerns repetitively. It may not be your intent but I don't see how you want a XB, based on your concerns. By the time you do all the upgrades, you might as well spend more money on a MCD, FG or Hurrax. If someone wants to bash cheaply, they should get a MT(any make) with bigger tires and higher ground clearance. If you aren't going to race on a track or street, then you are basically bashing IMO. Some largescale beasts are made for bashing but there are few that good for that. Even a Hurrax won't be impervious to serious bashing so that being said, all of these cars break but at what severity is dependent more importantly on the driver. If you are really concerned about durability, then you need to look at spending a lot of money with no guarantee that you won't break something. Currently, there are only a few platforms here in North America that are supported well for replacement parts let alone aftermarket upgrades.


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