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Hangar 9 or E-Flite Pulse - 8/25/2011 7:41 AM   
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So the club that I recently joined have a few of their own trainers that I'm free to use and all are glow powered. I've been on the buddy box 4 times and while I know I'm not ready nor confident enough to fly a Pulse yet, I'm going to buy one as my own plane to use after I've mastered the High-Wing Trainer. I know that I'm going to use electric power for the Pulse and obviously, the E-Flite version is set-up for this but the Hangar 9 version contains instructions for an electric set-up.

My question is which one would you recommend? I like that the E-Flite is solely designed for electric power but its flying weight is around 4lbs and calls for a Power 25 or Power 32 motor whereas the Hangar 9 Pulse flys at 5lb and calls for a Power 46 motor. Is this a big difference between the two? I fear that the E-Flite Pulse will be "floaty" and my problem is that I live in a Province that is known for its strong wind so will this be a problem?

I appreciate all advice and give thanks in advance.


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RE: Hangar 9 or E-Flite Pulse - 8/25/2011 1:38 PM   
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Another outstanding plane is the new Advance. It's a 25-size plane, but it handles wind very well.

Here's a review:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/article_display.cfm?article_id=1339

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RE: Hangar 9 or E-Flite Pulse - 8/25/2011 4:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Bigger flies better, especially in wind. But Minnflyer is right, outfitting a .40 size pulse with electric power is going to be expensive. What's steering you away from glow power anyway?

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RE: Hangar 9 or E-Flite Pulse - 8/25/2011 4:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have flown the 25e and the .60 and seen the mini and .40 fly, and the .60 flys best followed by the .40. The smaller ones are twitchier, so if u can afford it go with the one of the glow ones.

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RE: Hangar 9 or E-Flite Pulse - 8/25/2011 8:55 PM   
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http://www.hobbypartz.com/98p-30c-5300-4s1p.html < need 2 per flight for 8 cells total. $65
http://www.hobbypartz.com/plbrescfor60.html < 120 High Voltage ESC $220

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=HAN5170 < Pulse 125 $280


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RE: Hangar 9 or E-Flite Pulse - 8/26/2011 7:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		So a guy at my local club flies an E-Flite Carbon-Z Yak which has a flying weight that's a little under 4lbs, same 25 size motor and actually has a wingspan of 48" which is 4" less than the E-Flite Pulse. If he can fly the E-Flite Yak with little problems in our windy province then would it be fair to say that the E-Flite Pulse will have similiar results or are they two different to compare?

Thanks again guys.


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RE: Hangar 9 or E-Flite Pulse - 8/26/2011 7:30 AM   
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http://www.hobbypartz.com/mo1102brmo.html < 110 Brushless Motor $45
http://www.hobbypartz.com/98p-30c-5300-4s1p.html < need 2 per flight for 8 cells total. $65
http://www.hobbypartz.com/plbrescfor60.html < 120 High Voltage ESC $220

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=HAN5170 < Pulse 125 $280


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Good combo.

I just bench tested that motor and ESC for a future install in a 1.20 plane. So far I'm pleased with the results.

I'm using 5000mAh 4S packs which I already have.

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RE: Hangar 9 or E-Flite Pulse - 8/26/2011 8:16 AM   
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So a guy at my local club flies an E-Flite Carbon-Z Yak which has a flying weight that's a little under 4lbs, same 25 size motor and actually has a wingspan of 48'' which is 4'' less than the E-Flite Pulse. If he can fly the E-Flite Yak with little problems in our windy province then would it be fair to say that the E-Flite Pulse will have similiar results or are they two different to compare?

Thanks again guys.



Not even close. I have the Pulse 25 and a friend had (pass-tense) the Carbon-Z. They are very different flying planes. The CZ can do some 3D, the Pulse is a low wing trainer. The Pulse is easy to fly. I also have the Pulse 125, very nice plane to fly.

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RE: Hangar 9 or E-Flite Pulse - 8/26/2011 4:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Flying skill is a huge variable too. I can put my Cub up in 15mph turbulent wind and work the tail to keep the nose pointed right. A beginner would find the plane in an awkward attitude soon because of inexperience.

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RE: Hangar 9 or E-Flite Pulse - 8/26/2011 8:16 PM   
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RE: Hangar 9 or E-Flite Pulse - 8/27/2011 7:57 PM   
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It is hard to beat the parkzone wildcat as a second plane and it won't break the bank but you need a transmitter but this is just my opinion that this is a good second plane.

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I disagree.

While it IS a wonderful flyer, lands gently, and is a good value, it is not suitable as the next level up for a beginner.

The problem is primarily with launching the plane.... particularly the first flights and until the beginner gets the hang of it.

A novice has to contend with an out of trim plane with a good amount of roll tendancy ( it has pretty good thrust... ) while hand launching for the first time, and trying to grab a TX.

Even with help this spells a recipie for disaster.

Then there are the grass landings. Beginners may not be used to stalling the plane inches above the ground and tend to fly it into the ground.

By the time a novice learns to deal with the plane, they have likely spent far more in replacement and auxillary items and parts...

I've seen all of the above happen with EXPERIENCED flyers... who deal with Giant Scale planes... myself included.

I have one of these planes and I find that what works best is to dial in a "launch" mix on my TX.

This mix, gives the correct amount of up elevator and throttle to take the plane high immediately after launch, and makes the hand launches MUCH easier.... I have plenty of time to fumble reaching for the controls, then switch off the mix with the plane high and with good airspeed.

However novices are unlikely to own computer controlled TX's that provide for such a mix, and would be unable to deal with these complexities.

It's a good plane... but as a "second" plane.... PASS

BTW: it flies GREAT with 2200mAH 20C+ 3S LiPo's.



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RE: Hangar 9 or E-Flite Pulse - 8/27/2011 8:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you have a friend to launch it is easy to fly. just put it to 150 approx up and it is kinda hard to screw up.

JMand I agree on the 2200 battery


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RE: Hangar 9 or E-Flite Pulse - 8/27/2011 9:47 PM   
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If you have a friend to launch it is easy to fly. just put it to 150 approx up and it is kinda hard to screw up.

JMand I agree on the 2200 battery



Even with a friend to do the first launch, this plane is unsuitable for a beginner.

Yeah it is a great flyer and easy once it is in the air, but the hand lauch only method, coupled with all of the other items makes it unsuitable for a second plane.



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RE: Hangar 9 or E-Flite Pulse - 8/28/2011 3:12 PM   
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RE: Hangar 9 or E-Flite Pulse - 8/28/2011 10:19 PM   
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I started with the hobbyzone super-cub and my second airplane was the wildcat and I had absolutely no problems.

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While it is great that you've done that ( I don't like many of the Supercub's either as first planes ), that does not change the unsuitablity of this plane for a beginner.

It is a nice plane never the less, and a fairly good combo for the money, but recommending it to a beginner is not the best advise.



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