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RE: Losi Ten SCTE 4x4 or AE SC10? - 10/8/2011 3:51 PM   
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And I can contest to the losi being hard on electronics, your more likely to overheat a motor etc on the scte because of its weight if you don't run the proper motor and gearing, and they can drain batteries quicker then the lighter 4x4's


Realistically, the Losi is not going to be any more of a drain or stain on the motor/battery/electronics - because of its ''slightly'' heavier weight - than the AE is with is high-drag belt drive system. www.rcuniverse.com="" forum="" js="" fckeditor="" editor="" images="" smiley="" msn="" src="" />




Tell that to my lipo's, with my scte on a 5000mah 40c lipo I was barely getting 6 to 7 min run times, while my sc10 4x4 which weighs almost a pound less is getting closer to to 8+ mins???????

Just because you are lapping sc10's at your track does not mean the losi is better, at my track its the exact opposite..... Now does that mean the sc10 is better? No just means that when everything is said and done it comes down to the driver, not the vehicle..............



If that's all the runtime you're getting, you're overgeared or have some other issue.



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RE: Losi Ten SCTE 4x4 or AE SC10? - 10/8/2011 6:39 PM   
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And I can contest to the losi being hard on electronics, your more likely to overheat a motor etc on the scte because of its weight if you don't run the proper motor and gearing, and they can drain batteries quicker then the lighter 4x4's


Realistically, the Losi is not going to be any more of a drain or stain on the motor/battery/electronics - because of its ''slightly'' heavier weight - than the AE is with is high-drag belt drive system. www.rcuniverse.com='''' forum='''' js='''' fckeditor='''' editor='''' images='''' smiley='''' msn='''' src='''' />




Tell that to my lipo's, with my scte on a 5000mah 40c lipo I was barely getting 6 to 7 min run times, while my sc10 4x4 which weighs almost a pound less is getting closer to to 8+ mins???????

Just because you are lapping sc10's at your track does not mean the losi is better, at my track its the exact opposite..... Now does that mean the sc10 is better? No just means that when everything is said and done it comes down to the driver, not the vehicle..............



If that's all the runtime you're getting, you're overgeared or have some other issue.






Regardless if I'm overgeared or not, your missing the point...... The heavier SCTE is and will not get the same runtime when compared to a lighter 4x4......... Enough said.........

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RE: Losi Ten SCTE 4x4 or AE SC10? - 10/8/2011 6:43 PM   
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And I can contest to the losi being hard on electronics, your more likely to overheat a motor etc on the scte because of its weight if you don't run the proper motor and gearing, and they can drain batteries quicker then the lighter 4x4's


Realistically, the Losi is not going to be any more of a drain or stain on the motor/battery/electronics - because of its ''slightly'' heavier weight - than the AE is with is high-drag belt drive system. www.rcuniverse.com="" forum="" js="" fckeditor="" editor="" images="" smiley="" msn="" src="" />




Tell that to my lipo's, with my scte on a 5000mah 40c lipo I was barely getting 6 to 7 min run times, while my sc10 4x4 which weighs almost a pound less is getting closer to to 8+ mins???????

Just because you are lapping sc10's at your track does not mean the losi is better, at my track its the exact opposite..... Now does that mean the sc10 is better? No just means that when everything is said and done it comes down to the driver, not the vehicle..............



If that's all the runtime you're getting, you're overgeared or have some other issue.






Regardless if I'm overgeared or not, your missing the point...... The heavier SCTE is and will not get the same runtime when compared to a lighter 4x4......... Enough said.........


Since both are designed and intended to race, and races are typically 6 minutes long, and baziliion-mAh packs are commonplace, a 9% weight differential is inconsequential. And if it is, then you don't know what you're doing.  Nuff Said! 



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RE: Losi Ten SCTE 4x4 or AE SC10? - 10/8/2011 6:56 PM   
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And I can contest to the losi being hard on electronics, your more likely to overheat a motor etc on the scte because of its weight if you don't run the proper motor and gearing, and they can drain batteries quicker then the lighter 4x4's


Realistically, the Losi is not going to be any more of a drain or stain on the motor/battery/electronics - because of its ''slightly'' heavier weight - than the AE is with is high-drag belt drive system. www.rcuniverse.com='''' forum='''' js='''' fckeditor='''' editor='''' images='''' smiley='''' msn='''' src='''' />




Tell that to my lipo's, with my scte on a 5000mah 40c lipo I was barely getting 6 to 7 min run times, while my sc10 4x4 which weighs almost a pound less is getting closer to to 8+ mins???????

Just because you are lapping sc10's at your track does not mean the losi is better, at my track its the exact opposite..... Now does that mean the sc10 is better? No just means that when everything is said and done it comes down to the driver, not the vehicle..............



If that's all the runtime you're getting, you're overgeared or have some other issue.






Regardless if I'm overgeared or not, your missing the point...... The heavier SCTE is and will not get the same runtime when compared to a lighter 4x4......... Enough said.........


Since both are designed and intended to race, and races are typically 6 minutes long, and baziliion-mAh packs are commonplace, a 9% weight differential is inconsequential. And if it is, then you don't know what you're doing.  Nuff Said! 





**** does anything have to do with them being designed to race?????????????? If you know it all then prove me wrong, explain to me why my B4 on the same pack can run 3X longer then either of the 4x4's??????????????

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RE: Losi Ten SCTE 4x4 or AE SC10? - 10/10/2011 1:00 AM   
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And I can contest to the losi being hard on electronics, your more likely to overheat a motor etc on the scte because of its weight if you don't run the proper motor and gearing, and they can drain batteries quicker then the lighter 4x4's


Realistically, the Losi is not going to be any more of a drain or stain on the motor/battery/electronics - because of its ''slightly'' heavier weight - than the AE is with is high-drag belt drive system. www.rcuniverse.com='''' forum='''' js='''' fckeditor='''' editor='''' images='''' smiley='''' msn='''' src='''' />




Tell that to my lipo's, with my scte on a 5000mah 40c lipo I was barely getting 6 to 7 min run times, while my sc10 4x4 which weighs almost a pound less is getting closer to to 8+ mins???????

Just because you are lapping sc10's at your track does not mean the losi is better, at my track its the exact opposite..... Now does that mean the sc10 is better? No just means that when everything is said and done it comes down to the driver, not the vehicle..............



If that's all the runtime you're getting, you're overgeared or have some other issue.






Regardless if I'm overgeared or not, your missing the point...... The heavier SCTE is and will not get the same runtime when compared to a lighter 4x4......... Enough said.........


x2, ThunderbirdJunkie's buddy's SCTE struggled to make an eight minute heat (Tekin 4.5, TP 5300/65c battery, RX8). ThunderbirdJunkie's SC10 4x4, on the other hand, with an RX8, 1410, and 5000mah packs, could get 20 minutes of straight runtime on the track...

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RE: Losi Ten SCTE 4x4 or AE SC10? - 10/10/2011 1:50 PM   
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And I can contest to the losi being hard on electronics, your more likely to overheat a motor etc on the scte because of its weight if you don't run the proper motor and gearing, and they can drain batteries quicker then the lighter 4x4's


Realistically, the Losi is not going to be any more of a drain or stain on the motor/battery/electronics - because of its ''slightly'' heavier weight - than the AE is with is high-drag belt drive system. www.rcuniverse.com="" forum="" js="" fckeditor="" editor="" images="" smiley="" msn="" src="" />




Tell that to my lipo's, with my scte on a 5000mah 40c lipo I was barely getting 6 to 7 min run times, while my sc10 4x4 which weighs almost a pound less is getting closer to to 8+ mins???????

Just because you are lapping sc10's at your track does not mean the losi is better, at my track its the exact opposite..... Now does that mean the sc10 is better? No just means that when everything is said and done it comes down to the driver, not the vehicle..............



If that's all the runtime you're getting, you're overgeared or have some other issue.






Regardless if I'm overgeared or not, your missing the point...... The heavier SCTE is and will not get the same runtime when compared to a lighter 4x4......... Enough said.........


Since both are designed and intended to race, and races are typically 6 minutes long, and baziliion-mAh packs are commonplace, a 9% weight differential is inconsequential. And if it is, then you don't know what you're doing. www.rcuniverse.com="" forum="" js="" fckeditor="" editor="" images="" smiley="" msn="" src="" /> Nuff Said! 





**** does anything have to do with them being designed to race?????????????? If you know it all then prove me wrong, explain to me why my B4 on the same pack can run 3X longer then either of the 4x4's??????????????


Since runtime is only a viable consideration if you're racing, you're quibbling over bits.



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RE: Losi Ten SCTE 4x4 or AE SC10? - 10/10/2011 1:52 PM   
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JunkieThunderbirdJunkie's buddy's SCTE struggled to make an eight minute heat (Tekin 4.5, TP 5300/65c battery, RX8). ThunderbirdJunkie's SC10 4x4, on the other hand, with an RX8, 1410, and 5000mah packs, could get 20 minutes of straight runtime on the track...


KC's buddy's SC10 4x4 struggles to make it through a 6 minute heat. What's your point?


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RE: Losi Ten SCTE 4x4 or AE SC10? - 10/10/2011 3:05 PM   
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Since runtime is only a viable consideration if you're racing, you're quibbling over bits.


Your the one that is acting like you know it all, and once again you still haven't posted anything to backup your comments that weight plays no factor....... So once again I ask you prove me wrong.......



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RE: Losi Ten SCTE 4x4 or AE SC10? - 11/7/2011 1:20 AM   
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RE: Losi Ten SCTE 4x4 or AE SC10? - 12/31/2012 9:00 AM   
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RE: Losi Ten SCTE 4x4 or AE SC10? - 1/3/2013 1:35 PM   
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PS. Referring back to a post on page 1...Touring cars have belts because they act as a drag brake?? There are many reasons why belt is better than shaft (it is better in case anyone is under any misconception), but that ain't one of them.

On the subject of weight being beneficial, it is. Those who are taking weight off their cars in every way possible are usually not doing themselves any favors. Lighter=more difficult to drive, less traction under power, less predictability in the corners and in traffic.

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