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New Edge 540 - 8/21/2003 2:44:27 AM   
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New Edge 540 - 8/21/2003 2:49:20 AM   
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I'll put you on the list and notify you when the planes leave the factory.

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24" prop? - 9/1/2003 11:47:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Is the landing gear tall enough to hold a 24" prop and is it built to accomdate a canister muffler/pipe? The add claims its aimed at new to large planes crowd. Will it 3D and still be smooth for IMAC?

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Re: 24" prop? - 9/2/2003 1:34:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by ernie58
Is the landing gear tall enough to hold a 24" prop and is it built to accomdate a canister muffler/pipe? The add claims its aimed at new to large planes crowd. Will it 3D and still be smooth for IMAC? [/QUOTE]

It has about 3" clearance with a 22" prop with the tail wheel on the ground. When the tail comes up there will obviously be less. It should be ok with 24" prop on pavement, no guarantees if you fly off deep grass or really bumpt ground. The wheel pants are large, if you need more clearance you could put on bigger wheels or just have TNT landing gear make a new gear that's an inch or so taller, cheap solutions.

There's really not enough room for a canister unless you find another place to put the gas tank. I used a G62 with a bisson wraparound muffler on the prototype and it's very quiet.

Doing 3d involves primarily a change of control surface throws. If you want to do both use good servos and a good radio with dual or triple rates. You should be able to switch between smooth-pattern mode and go-wild 3d mode.

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New Edge 540 - 9/2/2003 3:22:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe this is a silly question, but any chance that the plane is unlimited w/ a G-62?

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New Edge 540 - 9/2/2003 3:56:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by RobertC
Maybe this is a silly question, but any chance that the plane is unlimited w/ a G-62? [/QUOTE]

Not a silly question at all. Yes, the prototype that I have been flying has a G62, Bisson wraparound muffler, and CH electronic ignition. It is most definitely not limited in any way. It will pull up out of a hover, go vertical at good speed until it's out of sight, and the G62 is very well behaved and quiet.

I always thought the G62 was kind of a weak sister, but I'm now a convert, in the Edge 540T the G62 performs extremely well. And from what I understand there is more power in there that can come out through careful tuning and maybe a few parts.

And the thing is as reliable as stone.

Tom Fawcett

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New Edge 540 - 9/2/2003 5:50:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		Why did you choose the G62 instead of say the DA 50 or ZDZ 50?


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New Edge 540 - 9/2/2003 7:34:41 AM   
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Why did you choose the G62 instead of say the DA 50 or ZDZ 50? [/QUOTE]

I chose to test with the G62 because I wanted the plane to support that engine well. There are thousands of G62s out there and really no good planes for them. THe smaller ones in the 78-80 inch class don't have enough wing area to carry that heavy engine. The bigger ones like our Giles are just a little too big to do 3d stuff with a G62.

I know that the DA-50 and ZDZ-50 are much lighter, and that if it flies well with the G62 it will do fine with the lighter engines. The big question was how would it do with a 4 1/2 pound engine in front, and it did fine.


Tom Fawcett

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New Edge 540 - 9/3/2003 11:25:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Will there be any problem balancing the plane with a BME 50?

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New Edge 540 - 9/4/2003 2:03:13 AM   
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In a post outside of the 'Wildhare Support' you said, "I am finishing up assembling the plane shown in the picture with a DA-50 and Bisson wraparound muffler. It weighs right at 16 pounds if I have everything up correctly."

I'm starting to become very interested in this plane (and very tired of waiting on another companies claims of shipping soon from China).

What I would like to know is the details of your setup with the new Edge and the DA-50 . Things like, did you use a pull-pull on the rudder to make it balance. If not and you left the servos in the tail, was it possible to balance with batteries, etc? Is there a chance of getting pictures on the web (here) of the insides of the Edge setup? (With a DA-50 and a G-62?) I'm sure others would love to see this, as would I. I know your a busy guy so I don't expect results yesterday, but something like the pictures in a weeks time or so would be great, if possible (and I would understand if not possible).

Also, (last question for now) is the projected date still around November and if so can a simple email save one with deposit , or haven't you guys got that far yet?

Thanks!


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New Edge 540 - 9/4/2003 2:31:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by rcpilotjae
RCTom:

What I would like to know is the details of your setup with the new Edge and the DA-50 . Things like, did you use a pull-pull on the rudder to make it balance.

Thanks! [/QUOTE]

The plan with the plane is to have it so that it will balance with a DA 50 and pull-pull rudder, elevator servos in the tail.

The rudder servos can be installed in the tail (one or two) to offset a heavier engine, or simply add a few ounces of lead back there to get it just the way you want it.

With a long tail moment like this plane has, it only takes a little ballast to make a big change, but it's important that it not be real tail heavy to start with since it takes 3 to 4 times as much nose weight to offset tail weight.

I am just finishing up the DA-50 installation, I'll post a couple pictures here but I may be able to do a better job on the web site.

The actual best solution will be to read the manual, which I hope to have done by the end of this month.

We are still on track for shipping out to customers in November, although we have never hit the exact date yet. I'm almost certain about November, early or late is still subject to change.

Thanks.

Tom Fawcett

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New Edge 540 - 9/4/2003 4:36:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by claysmith
Will there be any problem balancing the plane with a BME 50? [/QUOTE]

There should not be any problem with a BME 50. They are light, but the plane is designed to accept a light engine. Setup will be similar to a DA-50, pull-pull rudder, batteries toward the front, no big deal.

TF

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New Edge 540 - 9/5/2003 7:18:25 AM   
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New Edge 540 - 9/5/2003 7:47:43 AM   
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When do you expect them to be arriving? [/QUOTE]

The projected ship date from the builder to me is Oct. 10. That can, and usually does, slip a little.

It takes 30 days to get here from the builder.

TF

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RE: New Edge 540 - 9/9/2003 4:09:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Tom, I'm realy interested in your new Edge. I've been looking at the Aeroworks<