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    RE: mvvs 1.60 gasser - 9/24/2003 9:05:24 AM   
    PlaneKrazee



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    Status: offline     		Sounds like the 17X8 would be the perfect prop for a combination of thrust and speed for average flying.

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    RE: mvvs 1.60 gasser - 9/24/2003 1:31:02 PM   
    kenair


     

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    Status: offline     		I agree, 17x8 is a good point for starting at, once the engine breaks in and depending upon the plane and your style of flying, a change to a different prop may be in order.

    If we get some weather, up here in the frozen tundra, I hope to try a Top Flite PP 17.5x8 (trimmed down 18x8) in the Laser 200.

    A buddy got the Pacific Aero Models 1/4 Laser 200 arf, nice plane, he bought the 1.6 to put in it, will be a nice combo.
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    RE: mvvs 1.60 gasser - 9/25/2003 6:36:31 AM   
    Patriot



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    Status: offline     		OK, here's one for you gents.

    Everyone pretty much agrees that using PCM is generally a better idea than FM radios with a gas engine. But not knowing too much about radios, my question is simple. WHY? And why in tarnations shouldn't I use an FM radio, as they are much cheaper.
    Lots of guys say they use FM with no problems. Having to use a more expensive PCM radio makes me wonder if the cost increase is worth it, even though gas is cheaper to run.

    Patriot

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    RE: mvvs 1.60 gasser - 9/25/2003 9:17:50 AM   
    Patriot



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    Status: offline     		Alright, I have yet another question about this seemingly kick-tail engine.

    Does anyone have full dimensions of the mvvs 1.60 gas engine?

    ie. centerline to top of plug, length, length from prop hub to plug etc.

    Just wish I had a drawing of it with all dimensions, so I know whether or not this thing will fit in the cowl of my Balsa USA Citabria Pro without having to cut out a huge hole to make it fit. I know I need vents, but that is not a problem. I just don't like the an engine sticking out the side of the airplane, BLEH!!!

    I plan to mount it inverted, with a Bisson inverted muffler.

    Patriot.

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    RE: mvvs 1.60 gasser - 9/25/2003 1:03:41 PM   
    kenair


     

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    Status: offline     		IMHO this is NOT an butt kicking engine. The MVVS 1.6 is a sweet smooth running gas engine that produces standard power for it's displacment of 1.6 cu. in or 26cc and will turn into a free engine in two years buy running gas instead of glow ( fuel cost savings)

    If you are looking for max power from a 1.6 size buy the MVVS 1.6 glow version or the OS 1.6, but if your are looking for:

    a) fuel you can buy at your corner gas station
    b) no slime to wipe off
    c) no flame outs
    d) a pumped carb
    e) a gas engine that has a glow size type proportions

    then the MVVS 1.6 may fit your bill.

    Dimensions:
    Lenght :backplate to frot of prop hub 4.5"
    height lc. of mounting lug to top of head 4" plug the plub cap heightof an 1" or so
    see photos at http://www.sportrc.com/smallgassers.html#Lanier%201/4%20scale%20Laser%20200%20&%20RCS%201.4

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    RE: mvvs 1.60 gasser - 9/25/2003 8:15:51 PM   
    ole.steen


     

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    For MVVS dimensions see http://www.justengines.unseen.org/mvvsdims.htm

    Ole

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    RE: mvvs 1.60 gasser - 9/25/2003 8:35:34 PM   
    pe reivers



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    To Kenair:
    I have got to get this off my chest.
    For a gas engine, the 1.60 is very powerfull, and probably best in class. The same design as glow engine just delivers even more power, which is quite natural due to the cooler running of methanol engines and the larger amount of usable work generated for the same amount of oxigen when running methanol. (it uses only 10% oil as well)
    To call it a sweet running engine, whilst true for the mark one engines, is the understament of the year for the 2003 production units, because the 1.60 easily beats the Zenoah 38. It is about the only 1.60 gas engine suitable for satisfactory Imac Aerobatics.

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    RE: mvvs 1.60 gasser - 9/25/2003 10:16:49 PM   
    Patriot



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    Status: offline     		Preivers, you are right. I want it for some good aerobatics, but not for competition. Citabria Pro isn't really the best for that, but sure is fun to fly. I agree that glow is in fact more powerful, but I want the gas for efficiency, and cleaner operation. Plus I like the idea of not needing a glow starter, and less flame outs because of it's ignition system, ie more reliability.

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    RE: mvvs 1.60 gasser - 9/25/2003 10:29:49 PM   
    Patriot



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    Status: offline     		Thanks for the DIMS, now I just have to convert to inches. LOL Those brits, why can't they stick with the English system? They started it. LOL

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    RE: mvvs 1.60 gasser - 9/25/2003 10:49:16 PM   
    kenair


     

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    preivers


    Do you mean G23 or G38?

    I have the new red head 1.6, my buddy has the newer g23 stock ignition, we ground ran the same prop, we trun the smae rpm on the same prop, and a G38 will out turn a MVVS 1.6 by a bigger margin.

    What IMAC planes are your currently flying your 1.6 in?

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    RE: mvvs 1.60 gasser - 9/25/2003 11:43:22 PM   
    Scoubidou



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    Status: offline     		I plan to put the MVVS1.6 in CA Extra 300L, 72'', 11lbs to fly IMAC. In construction now... I hope to be at 10-1/2lbs with some modifications for optimum flying performance with almost unlimited vertical. At, 12lbs, it will be to heavy for IMAC.
    Scou

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    RE: mvvs 1.60 gasser - 9/26/2003 12:53:39 AM   
    JimRoss



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    Status: offline     		You mentioned running the 1.60 on Methanol.............
    Is it better to run it on methanol or gasoline?
    Does the oil mixture change for Methanol versus Gasoline?
    Any idea what the cost of methanol is?

    I'm just chuck full of questions........


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    RE: mvvs 1.60 gasser - 9/26/2003 12:58:45 AM   
    JimRoss



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    Status: offline     		And another thing!!!!

    Why does the 1.6 come with a small carbueretor when everyone knows that its' performance will improve drastically witha larger carb?????????
    Why don't they just put the big carb on it and be done?


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    RE: mvvs 1.60 gasser - 9/26/2003 1:03:33 AM   
    Scoubidou



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    Status: offline     		Hello JimRoss,
    Tell me your Dentist's name, your are look so nice, little big but clean!
    Scou

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