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RE: The Evader Coalition ~ T.E.C. Part 2. - 11/6/2012 5:40 PM

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Agreed!

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100 is an easier feat that you'd think. the hardest part is actually controlling it. traxxas likes to over-complicate things, mostly as an attempt to justify their excessive prices.

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RE: The Evader Coalition ~ T.E.C. Part 2. - 11/6/2012 7:21 PM

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I would also think finding a place to do 100 would be a problem too. At 100 the car is covering 150 feet/sec. That's 2 seconds to travel a football field. Whew, that's moving. Where do you go to be able to see the car for long enough to hit such high speeds? Seeing how much my tires balloon at 40, I'm surprised the things don't tear themselves apart at 100.

But that's the beauty of evaders. Everyone uses them for different goals and they perform just fine. No need to spend the big bucks on Traxxis, etc.

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100 is an easier feat that you'd think. the hardest part is actually controlling it. traxxas likes to over-complicate things, mostly as an attempt to justify their excessive prices.

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RE: The Evader Coalition ~ T.E.C. Part 2. - 11/6/2012 7:28 PM

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100 is an easier feat that you'd think. the hardest part is actually controlling it. traxxas likes to over-complicate things, mostly as an attempt to justify their excessive prices.

agreed, it goes along with the saying, "speed doesn't kill, stopping abruptly does"... Also a lot of the equations that have a velocity factor in them, the V term is usually squared, so for every MPH you add the velocity affects the handling even more.

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RE: The Evader Coalition ~ T.E.C. Part 2. - 11/6/2012 8:35 PM

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I would also think finding a place to do 100 would be a problem too. At 100 the car is covering 150 feet/sec. That's 2 seconds to travel a football field. Whew, that's moving. Where do you go to be able to see the car for long enough to hit such high speeds? Seeing how much my tires balloon at 40, I'm surprised the things don't tear themselves apart at 100.

But that's the beauty of evaders. Everyone uses them for different goals and they perform just fine. No need to spend the big bucks on Traxxis, etc.

Go evaders.

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100 is an easier feat that you'd think. the hardest part is actually controlling it. traxxas likes to over-complicate things, mostly as an attempt to justify their excessive prices.

My buddy has a private airport strip so the location isn't an issue. Draven on youtube has hit 114mph with a Rusty and my buddies Project Reaper hit 80 but he couldn't surpass that without flipping over or blowing a tire. But like I said I'm shooting for 80 mph range now....If I feel it can be done by adding 4s to break 100 I will try it but next summer. I have 2s for when I go racing/bashing, just need to adjust suspension, gearing, and swap tires over, remove front air dam, and install rear spoiler.

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RE: The Evader Coalition ~ T.E.C. Part 2. - 11/6/2012 10:42 PM

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quick question ,whats the stock spur and pinion on the evader ext2 ? im looking for a lil faster top speed ..thanks all

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RE: The Evader Coalition ~ T.E.C. Part 2. - 11/7/2012 12:49 AM

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quick question ,whats the stock spur and pinion on the evader ext2 ? im looking for a lil faster top speed ..thanks all

I think it's 20/88 but not 100% sure.

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RE: The Evader Coalition ~ T.E.C. Part 2. - 11/7/2012 2:37 AM

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quick question ,whats the stock spur and pinion on the evader ext2 ? im looking for a lil faster top speed ..thanks all

I think it's 20/88 but not 100% sure.

that's what tower says, so it should be right.

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RE: The Evader Coalition ~ T.E.C. Part 2. - 11/7/2012 4:09 AM

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in the past for all models leading up to the EXT2 it's been 18/88 but they could've changed it... i wouldn't trust tower honestly they've been wrong about some things in the past.... The best way is go to dtx's sight and look up the exploded view for the ext2 and see what they say in there....

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RE: The Evader Coalition ~ T.E.C. Part 2. - 11/7/2012 4:55 PM

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I always thought it was 21/88. Though I have an ST, that's how mine came.

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RE: The Evader Coalition ~ T.E.C. Part 2. - 11/9/2012 12:05 PM

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Any plans for the weekend? I'm stayin home and watching Lions.

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RE: The Evader Coalition ~ T.E.C. Part 2. - 11/9/2012 12:40 PM

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going down to my grandma's in Indiana in an hour or so. she and my aunt have to meet the baby (my sister's son). probably going out to eat as yesterday was the baby-daddy's birthday (i think...) and they decided to wait til today to go out to eat. might try talking my uncle into either taking me shooting or to the airfield if he's there.

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RE: The Evader Coalition ~ T.E.C. Part 2. - 11/9/2012 4:06 PM

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I always thought it was 21/88. Though I have an ST, that's how mine came.

Mine were 20/88, stock. I'm running 18/87, now.

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RE: The Evader Coalition ~ T.E.C. Part 2. - 11/9/2012 6:44 PM

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The stock gearing on the older brushed evader is definitely 20/88. I think they bumped it to 24/88 on the burshless.

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RE: The Evader Coalition ~ T.E.C. Part 2. - 11/9/2012 7:02 PM

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I have a battery question you guys might help me with.

My lipos are over a year old now, with probably 50+ recharges on them and they are starting to exhibit odd behavior. First off, they don't charge up as much as they used to when new. 3300mAh instead of 4100. I assume that's normal as a battery ages. The weird thing they are doing is that about 90% of the way through a discharge they go flat. Full throttle is like 5% and then, all of a sudden they start to put out the power like normal. The flat spot lasts anywhere from 1 or 2 seconds to 5 or more. Sometimes It dies as if it has hit the voltage limiter but if I turn off the ESC and turn it back on again it'll run normally for another 3-4 of minutes. Final discharged voltge is about the same (7.25 V for a 2S) as always. Also a couple of them are starting to swell a little.

Are they nearing the end of their life? How many recharges do you guys get before the battery's toast?

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RE: The Evader Coalition ~ T.E.C. Part 2. - 11/9/2012 7:11 PM

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I have a battery question you guys might help me with.

My lipos are over a year old now, with probably 50+ recharges on them and they are starting to exhibit odd behavior. First off, they don't charge up as much as they used to when new. 3300mAh instead of 4100. I assume that's normal as a battery ages. The weird thing they are doing is that about 90% of the way through a discharge they go flat. Full throttle is like 5% and then, all of a sudden they start to put out the power like normal. The flat spot lasts anywhere from 1 or 2 seconds to 5 or more. Sometimes It dies as if it has hit the voltage limiter but if I turn off the ESC and turn it back on again it'll run normally for another 3-4 of minutes. Final discharged voltge is about the same (7.25 V for a 2S) as always. Also a couple of them are starting to swell a little

Are they nearing the end of their life? How many recharges do you guys get before the battery's toast?

what kind of batteries do you have? it sounds like they are sagging voltage wise low enough to hit your LVC, and the puffing is a sign that they are being overtaxxed or getting tired...

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RE: The Evader Coalition ~ T.E.C. Part 2. - 11/10/2012 3:45 AM

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I have a battery question you guys might help me with.

My lipos are over a year old now, with probably 50+ recharges on them and they are starting to exhibit odd behavior. First off, they don't charge up as much as they used to when new. 3300mAh instead of 4100. I assume that's normal as a battery ages. The weird thing they are doing is that about 90% of the way through a discharge they go flat. Full throttle is like 5% and then, all of a sudden they start to put out the power like normal. The flat spot lasts anywhere from 1 or 2 seconds to 5 or more. Sometimes It dies as if it has hit the voltage limiter but if I turn off the ESC and turn it back on again it'll run normally for another 3-4 of minutes. Final discharged voltge is about the same (7.25 V for a 2S) as always. Also a couple of them are starting to swell a little.

Are they nearing the end of their life? How many recharges do you guys get before the battery's toast?

"Although getting better, RC LiPo’s don’t last that long, perhaps only 300-400 charge cycles (much less if not cared for properly). That said, I have heard some people getting over 1000 cycles if all the rules are followed. RC LiPo batteries require unique and proper care if they are going to last for any length of time more so than any other battery technology. Charging, discharging, and storage all affect the lifespan – get it wrong and a LiPo is garbage in as little as one mistake."

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RE: The Evader Coalition ~ T.E.C. Part 2. - 11/10/2012 6:40 PM

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I need a recommendation for a replacement motor for the stock motor...not brushless, just something with a little more pep!

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RE: The Evader Coalition ~ T.E.C. Part 2. - 11/10/2012 9:58 PM

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The stock Photon Speed2 motors aren't bad for a $12, 20T brushed motor you use and throw out when the brushes either break off or wear out. A new one may surprise you. But honestly, IF you can find brushed motors, just about anything would be better. You didn't say whether by "pep", you mean speed, or torque. But if you found say, a 17-15T motor, cheap, that'd up the power some, and you might be able to gear up the pinion a couple teeth. But I don't know what that stock ESC can take. Keep an eye on the temperatures of the motor and ESC to make sure neither is getting too hot. You running 6-cell NiMh? Try a 7-cell. THAT will get you some considerable power, if you're still running 6-cells. What condition is the rest of the car, particularly the drive-train, in?

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RE: The Evader Coalition ~ T.E.C. Part 2. - 11/10/2012 10:16 PM

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Hey guys, just a heads-up for anyone who may be looking.....REAR CHASSIS PLATES
One MAY be able to use an Evader EXT rear plate (DTXC6978) on an Evader ST,
BUT, an Evader ST plate (DTXC7015) WILL NOT work on an Evader EXT. Not without a little Dremel milling, anyway.
The transmission case will not fit in between the two parallel plastic bits in the bottom inside of the plate. They're too narrow for the tranny case to sit down in where it's supposed to, so that it will mate up to the screw holes that anchor it.
Had to break out the Dremel and mill it out so that the tranny case would fit. And, I'm not sure If I may be stressing the bottom of the tranny case, because, unlike the one I'm supposed to have, there is no indentation in that same area for the bottom of the tranny case to sit in. I got it to fit, but not sure if I should.....

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RE: The Evader Coalition ~ T.E.C. Part 2. - 11/11/2012 2:00 AM

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I need a recommendation for a replacement motor for the stock motor...not brushless, just something with a little more pep!

Before I went brushless I always ran Trinity motors. They had a Speed Gems line with a good variety. I'm not sure what ESC your running but as Rob said, 7 cells isn't a bad way to add some pep either. But I gotta say, brushless is the way to go. I have the Mamba Max 5700kv setup and it rocks.

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I need a recommendation for a replacement motor for the stock motor...not brushless, just something with a little more pep!

for anything with a notable inprovement in performance, you'll need a new ESC and for the cost of the 2 together, you could get brushless. if you're hardset on brushed, trinity makes good brushed motors. if you want a little more grunt and dont mind a drop in speed, this motor will work and doesnt need a new esc http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXULR5&P=0 . if you are willing to give brushless a try, any of these systems will give you more speed and probably runtime without too much more power http://www.hobbypartz.com/skyrcesc.html

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RE: The Evader Coalition ~ T.E.C. Part 2. - 11/11/2012 5:11 AM

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I have a battery question you guys might help me with.

My lipos are over a year old now, with probably 50+ recharges on them and they are starting to exhibit odd behavior. First off, they don't charge up as much as they used to when new. 3300mAh instead of 4100. I assume that's normal as a battery ages. The weird thing they are doing is that about 90% of the way through a discharge they go flat. Full throttle is like 5% and then, all of a sudden they start to put out the power like normal. The flat spot lasts anywhere from 1 or 2 seconds to 5 or more. Sometimes It dies as if it has hit the voltage limiter but if I turn off the ESC and turn it back on again it'll run normally for another 3-4 of minutes. Final discharged voltge is about the same (7.25 V for a 2S) as always. Also a couple of them are starting to swell a little.

Are they nearing the end of their life? How many recharges do you guys get before the battery's toast?

"Although getting better, RC LiPo’s don’t last that long, perhaps only 300-400 charge cycles (much less if not cared for properly). That said, I have heard some people getting over 1000 cycles if all the rules are followed. RC LiPo batteries require unique and proper care if they are going to last for any length of time more so than any other battery technology. Charging, discharging, and storage all affect the lifespan – get it wrong and a LiPo is garbage in as little as one mistake."

They are Gens Ace 4000mah 2s 25 & 30C. Run times are falling off too Used to be at least 20-25min, now about 15min, right EGbasher?
So, It's concieveable that these batts are getting tired? Maybe we should look at getting a higher C-rating next time, EGb. Like a 40C.

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RE: The Evader Coalition ~ T.E.C. Part 2. - 11/11/2012 5:12 AM

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I meant to quote the Lug........

what kind of batteries do you have? it sounds like they are sagging voltage wise low enough to hit your LVC, and the puffing is a sign that they are being overtaxxed or getting tired...

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RE: The Evader Coalition ~ T.E.C. Part 2. - 11/11/2012 6:26 AM

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My buddy has a private airport strip so the location isn't an issue. Draven on youtube has hit 114mph with a Rusty and my buddies Project Reaper hit 80 but he couldn't surpass that without flipping over or blowing a tire. But like I said I'm shooting for 80 mph range now....If I feel it can be done by adding 4s to break 100 I will try it but next summer. I have 2s for when I go racing/bashing, just need to adjust suspension, gearing, and swap tires over, remove front air dam, and install rear spoiler.
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Private airstrip. Sweet. No wonder your into high speed runs.

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RE: The Evader Coalition ~ T.E.C. Part 2. - 11/11/2012 6:33 AM

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what kind of batteries do you have? it sounds like they are sagging voltage wise low enough to hit your LVC, and the puffing is a sign that they are being overtaxxed or getting tired...

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I've got GensAce 25C 4000mAh soft case and GensAce 30C 4000 mAh hard case. What's weird is most of the time it sags but does hit the cutoff voltage. It's almost as if the voltage is there but the resistance is so high the current flow drops.
The batteries are never more than about 95 to 100 degrees right after a full run. I always do a balance charge on them. Thought I was treating them right.

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