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RE: Spektrum DX18 - 2/15/2012 7:09 PM   
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Servo slow is brilliant, doesn't matter what radio it's on! Have used it on the Futaba system, Martin used it on flaperons to introduce them in on the slow, when first test flying a model! The function went to normal speed when they were drawn back in again in case of severe pitching problems!

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RE: Spektrum DX18 - 2/15/2012 7:17 PM   
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I've never used or seen model match but I can't help thinking that the chances of 2 models having the same channel assignments, centre points, directions, function etc is incredibly remote?? Or am I wrong?

I can't think of any model I've ever owned over the years where choosing a different model memory wouldn't be apparent either immediately (i.e. controls off centre) or after a 5sec check (i.e. surfaces operating back to front)

Am I missing something else it does for it to be 'a life saver'??


Maybe you don't own enough planes, my friend

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RE: Spektrum DX18 - 2/15/2012 7:33 PM   
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I've never used or seen model match but I can't help thinking that the chances of 2 models having the same channel assignments, centre points, directions, function etc is incredibly remote?? Or am I wrong?

I can't think of any model I've ever owned over the years where choosing a different model memory wouldn't be apparent either immediately (i.e. controls off centre) or after a 5sec check (i.e. surfaces operating back to front)

Am I missing something else it does for it to be 'a life saver'??


Marc, it is exactly for that. Turning on the transmiter on the wrong model can cause your landing gear to go up (destroying doors), surface binding, etc. I have stripped servo gears on things like retract valves by turning the radio on the wrong model

Of course you will notice before take off. you always do that 5 second up down left right check. Is what hapens immediately after turning on your radio what can hurt your plane.

Even if you are careful, I have left my plane on, to have someone else start my turbine (f100 at top gun...). In fact, ask my dad about his story about starting someone elses airplane in a trailer and setting it on fire...

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RE: Spektrum DX18 - 2/15/2012 8:04 PM   
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Vasek, I think I've owned enough models!

Jack, fair enough - I can see the merit in that. Perhaps never having had model match has got me into the good habit of checking things beforehand!

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RE: Spektrum DX18 - 2/15/2012 8:23 PM   
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I was just teasing, no harm meant

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RE: Spektrum DX18 - 2/15/2012 8:23 PM   
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It's possible but slim ... But how many so called PILOTS do U see just slam the sticks back and fourth and say "Good ta Go' and don't really check for Correct positioning of flight surfaces ... That's the guys MM is intended for.
At least be thankful they arn't flying Maned aircraft.



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RE: Spektrum DX18 - 2/15/2012 8:33 PM   
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Marc, it is exactly for that. Turning on the transmiter on the wrong model can cause your landing gear to go up (destroying doors), surface binding, etc. I have stripped servo gears on things like retract valves by turning the radio on the wrong model

Doesn't happen if the Receiver is turned on after the transmitter and the proper model has been selected. Again MM is for the Person that doesn't follow proper Proceedures. Next they'll want homming GPS's so when it looses "Bind" or what ever it'll come home buy it's self.





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RE: Spektrum DX18 - 2/15/2012 8:41 PM   
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Marc, it is exactly for that. Turning on the transmiter on the wrong model can cause your landing gear to go up (destroying doors), surface binding, etc. I have stripped servo gears on things like retract valves by turning the radio on the wrong model

Doesn't happen if the Receiver is turned on after the transmitter and the proper model has been selected. Again MM is for the Person that doesn't follow proper Proceedures. Next they'll want homming GPS's so when it looses ''Bind'' or what ever it'll come home buy it's self.







I wish I was half as perfect as you are... I myself make some mistakes once in a while, so appreciatte any additional help I can get....



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RE: Spektrum DX18 - 2/15/2012 8:51 PM   
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I wish I was half as perfect as you are... I myself make some mistakes once in a while....

Congratulations on your perfection

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     Jack  Me Matty ... It's not perfection ... It's Procedures, Procedures, Procedures. Follow the Procedures, Use the Check List, Engage Brain, Then check and double check. Never get complacent. All complacency will get ya is a "Big Expensive SMOKI'N Hole in the Ground"

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RE: Spektrum DX18 - 2/15/2012 9:27 PM   
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Well, that's me finally done with RCU, fed up with reading crap from people who obviously know everything and never learnt English at school, jeez.

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RE: Spektrum DX18 - 2/15/2012 10:04 PM   
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I am also fed up with Some of the crap posts and have also now blocked houndDog.

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RE: Spektrum DX18 - 2/15/2012 10:15 PM   
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It's easy. Just click on the block icon (the red hand thingy in the area below the text), and you'll never have to read his crap in bold text again. Of course, if some idiot chooses to reply to the buffoon by using the quote button, his crap will appear, but it's easier to ignore that as it's not in bold. All we really need is for everyone to block the troll and no-one will then reply to him and all will be sweetness and light. Best of all, the block button works across all threads.

FWIW, I've just programmed my two small Wren 44Gold powered jets for my DX8, which has replaced the JR10X which I've been using for 12 years. The 10X lost its touch-screen display when a sudden rain shower wet the screen and made it go blank - good luck 18MZ owners! The DX8 is 3/4lb lighter than the 10X, has a more comfortable shape to hold, and is a joy to program even in comparison with the 10X. I'll definitely be getting a DX18!

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RE: Spektrum DX18 - 2/15/2012 10:29 PM   
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Gordon,

Thank you very much...Done, I should have done that long ago...

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RE: Spektrum DX18 - 2/15/2012 11:40 PM   
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We do have a function on the 18MZ, where by the major functions carry an alarm when turning on the radio, which will not modulate until the said functions are reset (retracts, engine start etc........)! Not MM I know, but it does stop such mistakes!

Well said Gordon, an easy solution to mindless rants!


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RE: Spektrum DX18 - 2/16/2012 12:08 AM   
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Thanks Gordon and you other guys, nice to know I'm not the only one fed up with him.

Just ordered one btw, hope I'm not gonna be a Guinea Pig!

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RE: Spektrum DX18 - 2/16/2012 12:20 AM   
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The great thing about the latest generation radios is the fact that the hardware stays the same, the updates are free to download online keeping your gear bang up to date! So I'm sure any bugs you may find will be taken care of in this manner, I had this function for quite a few years on my FX40! Great system and easy to use. I'm sure the DX18 will be the same.

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RE: Spektrum DX18 - 2/16/2012 12:23 AM   
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Even if you are careful, I have left my plane on, to have someone else start my turbine (f100 at top gun...). In fact, ask my dad about his story about starting someone elses airplane in a trailer and setting it on fire...



Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but how can this happen with any modern 2.4 GHz radio, with or without model match?

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RE: Spektrum DX18 - 2/16/2012 1:01 AM   
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That particular example will not happen anymore with any of the modern 2.4 radios, I think. However, without MM all planes you own will listen to one and the Tx. At my local club someone accidentally had is EDF which was parked in the pits start accelerating at full throttle as he'd forgotten to turn the Rx off while he was starting up the turbine in one of his other planes.

I think MM is a nice feature and consider it insurance just for the extremely remote case I would ever forget to follow a procedure or would ever miss to execute a check one of my extensive checklists. I'm guessing the only reason other radios do not offer it is because it's probably patented by Spektrum (?).

I think this new radio announcement is another step forward and am excited about it. I hope JR will follow suit with a new version of its high-end radio. The 12X is definitely getting outdated.

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RE: Spektrum DX18 - 2/16/2012 5:04 AM   
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Thanks Gordon and you other guys, nice to know I'm not the only one fed up with him.

Just ordered one btw, hope I'm not gonna be a Guinea Pig!


Put her through the paces, then post a report

I gather the UK version will have the reduced signal strength as per EU guidelines (?) Is there a way to set the US strength back up with the menu in this one? I've done it with my other Tx's I own.

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RE: Spektrum DX18 - 2/16/2012 7:15 AM   
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We do have a function on the 18MZ, where by the major functions carry an alarm when turning on the radio, which will not modulate until the said functions are reset (retracts, engine start etc........)! Not MM I know, but it does stop such mistakes!

Well said Gordon, an easy solution to mindless rants!


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That's slightly different mate, if you were to switch on a the wrong model memory l, the gear servo/valve may be reversed and still activate even with the rc thinking the switch was in the same place. MM is just an idiot proof way of doing it, it stops those D'oh moments when you're not concentrating as much as you should be.

As for the Troll, I blocked him days ago so this thread has become interesting and informative again. I'm not sure why the old prop flyer is posting on the jet section anyway. Maybe he annoyed the scale boys as well lol

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RE: Spektrum DX18 - 2/16/2012 7:16 AM   
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Double post damn RCU hang up

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RE: Spektrum DX18 - 2/16/2012 7:59 AM   
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     Jack  Me Matty ... It's not perfection ... It's Procedures, Procedures, Procedures. Follow the Procedures, Use the Check List, Engage Brain, Then check and double check. Never get complacent. All complacency will get ya is a ''Big Expensive SMOKI'N Hole in the Ground''





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RE: Spektrum DX18 - 2/16/2012 8:57 AM   
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I don't know, anyway we can't turn it up over here, breaks all the rules, BMFA, Insurance & the Radio Authorities that control our spectrum., the RCA.

Dubd, lol!

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RE: Spektrum DX18 - 2/16/2012 12:07 PM   
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Just ordered one btw...


Did you check that your short fingers will reach the sliders ?

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RE: Spektrum DX18 - 2/16/2012 12:15 PM   
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Lol! The launch timing of the DX18 was disastrous!

As you are obviously aware I am used to the DSX9 sliders and flap/gear switches that look the same on the DX18.

Anyone know if it has the servo slow/speed feature?

Gary.

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