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RE: Retract Game Changer - 2/28/2012 7:43 PM   
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RE: Retract Game Changer - 2/28/2012 7:48 PM   
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Wow, this thread is spinning out of control, I think all the OP wanted to do is show a alternative retracts that may or may not be suitable for a given application, it too bad everything has to turn political


hey rich, it's always political weather it's political or not lol how have you been? doing titusville this year?



Titusville is on, it is posted in the jet event calender


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I was going to do the mods on foremost 150 forum. Just debating even bothering as the new version is even crappier that the last from what I can see in the forum pics. Thanks


I don't think the Foremost has changed, it was always crappy I created the mods I posted for the challenge, I have now outgrown the need for a challenge

With that being said if you like to build the conversion isn't that bad

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RE: Retract Game Changer - 2/28/2012 7:59 PM   
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Is Kyosho American?  Are OS Engines American?  Is Futaba American?  We live in a WORLD not just one country.  And hopefully we are trying to make a better world, not just a better country.  Most of us (maybe not the seemingly elite group of jet fliers) live on budgets.  I have built and/or assembled many different planes over the years and buget has always been one of my primary concerns.  The most expensive engine I used was a Saito 50 4-stroke.  And it broke just as bad as the used Fox 40 I had when it hit the pavement.  When I crashed that and the Ace CloudDancer it was in I got back into flying in less than a month with a $50 Uproar and a $50 Tower 40 engine.  Flying was a lot more important to me than showing all my ''friends'' that I could spend $5000 on an airplane someone else built for me.  Several Tower 40s, one OS 30, an MDS 62 (cheap Russian made) and the Saito.  And the Tacon electric 60-sze motor I now have was made in China.  So if you want to put a Webra on a Top Flite kit I'll fly alongside with a Tower Uproar with a Tower 40.  And you can worry about destroying your ''investment'''' while I just have fun with my toy.



better world? aw hahahahaha i care abut American that's it. we give enough away world wide. i fly within a budget myself . so you telling me that you'd buy overseas just to save 50.00 on a 600.00 engine? that's what wrong with things these days. i fly gas only ,but i'd never buy a DLE. even if they were good engines.


DLE are very good engines I have 4 of them. Give one a try you will love it


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RE: Retract Game Changer - 2/28/2012 8:00 PM   
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"buy american BE american" is why you guys are getting such a terrible rep around the world.



I dont think that is the only reason do you


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RE: Retract Game Changer - 2/28/2012 8:20 PM   
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Is Kyosho American?  Are OS Engines American?  Is Futaba American?  We live in a WORLD not just one country.  And hopefully we are trying to make a better world, not just a better country.  Most of us (maybe not the seemingly elite group of jet fliers) live on budgets.  I have built and/or assembled many different planes over the years and buget has always been one of my primary concerns.  The most expensive engine I used was a Saito 50 4-stroke.  And it broke just as bad as the used Fox 40 I had when it hit the pavement.  When I crashed that and the Ace CloudDancer it was in I got back into flying in less than a month with a $50 Uproar and a $50 Tower 40 engine.  Flying was a lot more important to me than showing all my ''friends'' that I could spend $5000 on an airplane someone else built for me.  Several Tower 40s, one OS 30, an MDS 62 (cheap Russian made) and the Saito.  And the Tacon electric 60-sze motor I now have was made in China.  So if you want to put a Webra on a Top Flite kit I'll fly alongside with a Tower Uproar with a Tower 40.  And you can worry about destroying your ''investment'''' while I just have fun with my toy.



better world? aw hahahahaha i care abut American that's it. we give enough away world wide. i fly within a budget myself . so you telling me that you'd buy overseas just to save 50.00 on a 600.00 engine? that's what wrong with things these days. i fly gas only ,but i'd never buy a DLE. even if they were good engines.


Sorry man but the equivalent to your $600 engine only cost $50 overseas!  That's the point of the discussion.  Todd has retracts for $1000.  Hobby King has them for $150.

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RE: Retract Game Changer - 2/28/2012 8:27 PM   
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RE: Retract Game Changer - 2/28/2012 8:49 PM   
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Is Kyosho American?  Are OS Engines American?  Is Futaba American?  We live in a WORLD not just one country.  And hopefully we are trying to make a better world, not just a better country.  Most of us (maybe not the seemingly elite group of jet fliers) live on budgets.  I have built and/or assembled many different planes over the years and buget has always been one of my primary concerns.  The most expensive engine I used was a Saito 50 4-stroke.  And it broke just as bad as the used Fox 40 I had when it hit the pavement.  When I crashed that and the Ace CloudDancer it was in I got back into flying in less than a month with a $50 Uproar and a $50 Tower 40 engine.  Flying was a lot more important to me than showing all my ''friends'' that I could spend $5000 on an airplane someone else built for me.  Several Tower 40s, one OS 30, an MDS 62 (cheap Russian made) and the Saito.  And the Tacon electric 60-sze motor I now have was made in China.  So if you want to put a Webra on a Top Flite kit I'll fly alongside with a Tower Uproar with a Tower 40.  And you can worry about destroying your ''investment'''' while I just have fun with my toy.



better world? aw hahahahaha i care abut American that's it. we give enough away world wide. i fly within a budget myself . so you telling me that you'd buy overseas just to save 50.00 on a 600.00 engine? that's what wrong with things these days. i fly gas only ,but i'd never buy a DLE. even if they were good engines.


DLE are very good engines I have 4 of them. Give one a try you will love it


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RE: Retract Game Changer - 2/28/2012 10:13 PM   
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Is Kyosho American?  Are OS Engines American?  Is Futaba American?  We live in a WORLD not just one country.  And hopefully we are trying to make a better world, not just a better country.  Most of us (maybe not the seemingly elite group of jet fliers) live on budgets.  I have built and/or assembled many different planes over the years and buget has always been one of my primary concerns.  The most expensive engine I used was a Saito 50 4-stroke.  And it broke just as bad as the used Fox 40 I had when it hit the pavement.  When I crashed that and the Ace CloudDancer it was in I got back into flying in less than a month with a $50 Uproar and a $50 Tower 40 engine.  Flying was a lot more important to me than showing all my ''friends'' that I could spend $5000 on an airplane someone else built for me.  Several Tower 40s, one OS 30, an MDS 62 (cheap Russian made) and the Saito.  And the Tacon electric 60-sze motor I now have was made in China.  So if you want to put a Webra on a Top Flite kit I'll fly alongside with a Tower Uproar with a Tower 40.  And you can worry about destroying your ''investment'''' while I just have fun with my toy.



better world? aw hahahahaha i care abut American that's it. we give enough away world wide. i fly within a budget myself . so you telling me that you'd buy overseas just to save 50.00 on a 600.00 engine? that's what wrong with things these days. i fly gas only ,but i'd never buy a DLE. even if they were good engines.


DLE are very good engines I have 4 of them. Give one a try you will love it


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RE: Retract Game Changer - 2/28/2012 11:03 PM   
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Is Kyosho American?  Are OS Engines American?  Is Futaba American?  We live in a WORLD not just one country.  And hopefully we are trying to make a better world, not just a better country.  Most of us (maybe not the seemingly elite group of jet fliers) live on budgets.  I have built and/or assembled many different planes over the years and buget has always been one of my primary concerns.  The most expensive engine I used was a Saito 50 4-stroke.  And it broke just as bad as the used Fox 40 I had when it hit the pavement.  When I crashed that and the Ace CloudDancer it was in I got back into flying in less than a month with a $50 Uproar and a $50 Tower 40 engine.  Flying was a lot more important to me than showing all my ''friends'' that I could spend $5000 on an airplane someone else built for me.  Several Tower 40s, one OS 30, an MDS 62 (cheap Russian made) and the Saito.  And the Tacon electric 60-sze motor I now have was made in China.  So if you want to put a Webra on a Top Flite kit I'll fly alongside with a Tower Uproar with a Tower 40.  And you can worry about destroying your ''investment'''' while I just have fun with my toy.



better world? aw hahahahaha i care abut American that's it. we give enough away world wide. i fly within a budget myself . so you telling me that you'd buy overseas just to save 50.00 on a 600.00 engine? that's what wrong with things these days. i fly gas only ,but i'd never buy a DLE. even if they were good engines.


DLE are very good engines I have 4 of them. Give one a try you will love it


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RE: Retract Game Changer - 2/28/2012 11:12 PM   
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Is Kyosho American?  Are OS Engines American?  Is Futaba American?  We live in a WORLD not just one country.  And hopefully we are trying to make a better world, not just a better country.  Most of us (maybe not the seemingly elite group of jet fliers) live on budgets.  I have built and/or assembled many different planes over the years and buget has always been one of my primary concerns.  The most expensive engine I used was a Saito 50 4-stroke.  And it broke just as bad as the used Fox 40 I had when it hit the pavement.  When I crashed that and the Ace CloudDancer it was in I got back into flying in less than a month with a $50 Uproar and a $50 Tower 40 engine.  Flying was a lot more important to me than showing all my ''friends'' that I could spend $5000 on an airplane someone else built for me.  Several Tower 40s, one OS 30, an MDS 62 (cheap Russian made) and the Saito.  And the Tacon electric 60-sze motor I now have was made in China.  So if you want to put a Webra on a Top Flite kit I'll fly alongside with a Tower Uproar with a Tower 40.  And you can worry about destroying your ''investment'''' while I just have fun with my toy.



better world? aw hahahahaha i care abut American that's it. we give enough away world wide. i fly within a budget myself . so you telling me that you'd buy overseas just to save 50.00 on a 600.00 engine? that's what wrong with things these days. i fly gas only ,but i'd never buy a DLE. even if they were good engines.


DLE are very good engines I have 4 of them. Give one a try you will love it


no thanks...


Your loss


my choice


Isnt choice a wonderful thing DLE, DA, DLA, RCGF, RCG etc all excellent engines


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RE: Retract Game Changer - 2/28/2012 11:19 PM   
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Is Kyosho American?  Are OS Engines American?  Is Futaba American?  We live in a WORLD not just one country.  And hopefully we are trying to make a better world, not just a better country.  Most of us (maybe not the seemingly elite group of jet fliers) live on budgets.  I have built and/or assembled many different planes over the years and buget has always been one of my primary concerns.  The most expensive engine I used was a Saito 50 4-stroke.  And it broke just as bad as the used Fox 40 I had when it hit the pavement.  When I crashed that and the Ace CloudDancer it was in I got back into flying in less than a month with a $50 Uproar and a $50 Tower 40 engine.  Flying was a lot more important to me than showing all my ''friends'' that I could spend $5000 on an airplane someone else built for me.  Several Tower 40s, one OS 30, an MDS 62 (cheap Russian made) and the Saito.  And the Tacon electric 60-sze motor I now have was made in China.  So if you want to put a Webra on a Top Flite kit I'll fly alongside with a Tower Uproar with a Tower 40.  And you can worry about destroying your ''investment'''' while I just have fun with my toy.



better world? aw hahahahaha i care abut American that's it. we give enough away world wide. i fly within a budget myself . so you telling me that you'd buy overseas just to save 50.00 on a 600.00 engine? that's what wrong with things these days. i fly gas only ,but i'd never buy a DLE. even if they were good engines.


DLE are very good engines I have 4 of them. Give one a try you will love it


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Your loss


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Isnt choice a wonderful thing DLE, DA, DLA, RCGF, RCG etc all excellent engines


sure is DA, Zenoah , 3W ,.....

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RE: Retract Game Changer - 2/28/2012 11:27 PM   
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RE: Retract Game Changer - 2/28/2012 11:28 PM   
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we are getting a terrible rep around the world because of our dumb a president but he will soon be gone!!!!!@!!!!!  THANK GOD
 I also fly within my budget  not my fault i make 6 figure income !!!!!!!!!! so i do not have to skimp  and as far as Futaba  it is one of the top line radios has been for years  it is made in Japan  because we sent everything over there because they work CHEAP   we don't  !!!!!!!


I have no dog in this fight, but my Futaba 14MZ has a "Made in Taiwan" sticker on it.

My much older 7UAPS (circa '93) was made in Japan, I wonder where the 18MZ's are being made?


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RE: Retract Game Changer - 2/28/2012 11:32 PM   
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we are getting a terrible rep around the world because of our dumb a president but he will soon be gone!!!!!@!!!!!  THANK GOD
 I also fly within my budget  not my fault i make 6 figure income !!!!!!!!!! so i do not have to skimp  and as far as Futaba  it is one of the top line radios has been for years  it is made in Japan  because we sent everything over there because they work CHEAP   we don't  !!!!!!!



The prior was really so smart, people were going crazy all over the world! They really, really liked him!

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RE: Retract Game Changer - 2/28/2012 11:46 PM   
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RE: Retract Game Changer - 2/29/2012 12:51 AM   
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You know, not Mercedes or Yogos, but a nice set of Subarus.

If Hobby King can do them for $100 and the other guys do them for $1,000. Where are the $250 to $350 ones?

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RE: Retract Game Changer - 2/29/2012 12:56 AM   
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RE: Retract Game Changer - 2/29/2012 1:08 AM   
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I just want to know where the economical retracts are .

You know, not Mercedes or Yogos, but a nice set of Subarus.

If Hobby King can do them for $100 and the other guys do them for $1,000. Where are the $250 to $350 ones?



Those would be the KobbyKing, re branded, and sold in the US by some big name distributor:-)

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RE: Retract Game Changer - 2/29/2012 1:46 AM   
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RE: Retract Game Changer - 2/29/2012 1:48 AM   
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RE: Retract Game Changer - 2/29/2012 2:07 AM   
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Those would be the KobbyKing, re branded, and sold in the US by some big name distributor:-)

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look for your self, I was researching retracts for my Habu 32 and bought the HobbyKing units, they look good

US Distributor
http://shulmanaviation.com/product_info.php?cPath=1_170&products_id=1788

HobbyKing

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__15092__Turnigy_DSR_A_Retract_System_.html


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RE: Retract Game Changer - 2/29/2012 2:28 AM   
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Our retracts are not cheap bent steel or aluminum frames, they are 7075 T-6 machined plates and trunions. Oversized leak free cylinders and reversible. We carry a full inventory of replacement parts and they are 100% USA made. Our most expensive air operated retracts are the Hercules at 275.00 for a three gear set, our standard size Taurus set runs 235.00 and our small Sidewinder set at 199.00.

You cant possibly compare the HK struts to Pro-Link?
Our full combo packages which range from $500 to $1000 include the very best components available from numerous manufacturers. Every single part is custom made to exacting standards and assembled by hand. Personally, I think the Pro-Link line is quite economical considering the quality of the product and support. Of course, to each his own....

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RE: Retract Game Changer - 2/29/2012 3:27 AM   
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sorry guys don't mean to get off track  , just cannot wait for jan 21 2103  counting down


You'll be counting for a while ...

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RE: Retract Game Changer - 2/29/2012 3:37 AM   
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RE: Retract Game Changer - 2/29/2012 3:49 AM   
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The good Ole US of A is still the best country in the world. We don't need to apologize to our commie neighbors to the north, or to any country for that matter.




Well Rav, our boys have died right alongside yours in just about every major conflict in the world including Afganistan in support of democracy and freedom. I resent being called a commie. You need to open your eyes man, no 2 countries in the world are closer than USA and Canada.

Ok, enough politics but, that kind of ignorance strikes a nerve.

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