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RE: when/how did you know you wanted children or not? - 3/17/2012 8:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		This thread obviously troubles you Eddie. Why do you read it? Have you investigated the feature of RCU (other than your fingers) that allow you to ignore a thread?
Some people who enjoy RC obviously have other interests. It seems they should have a forum to ask questions of other people who share their interests in RC, yet are not so narrowly focused as to be offended by any question not within their tunnel-vision defined area of discussion.

Exercise your own judgement as to what you wish to read. If you expect others to always do tht for you you re doomed to disappointment.

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For those who fail to understand the connection between having children and their hobby(ies) theanswer to the question is clear. Do not have children.

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RE: when/how did you know you wanted children or not? - 3/17/2012 10:29 PM   
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RE: when/how did you know you wanted children or not? - 3/17/2012 10:48 PM   
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....You do not have to read or respond to any of these posts..


I was wondering when one of you guys would have said that

You have tons of rc related stuff here on RCU for anyone to respond too and if you can't find it here, i'm sure you'll find it on FG, RCG or another site. Don't waste your time and energy reading or responding to these post if you think this is not the place for it.

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RE: when/how did you know you wanted children or not? - 3/18/2012 3:03 AM   
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#1 trying to climb back in head first and...

#2 using the wrong door.

Even if you have reservations concerning kids and a biased perspective through having the advantage of looking at the world as an adult you must admit that this hobby brings out "the boy inside the man" in all of us. I hope I still have my dreams and memories as a happy go lucky kid when I am 80 if I am fortunate to live that long.

For those of you showing negativity towards kids, I can understand your thoughts but look at this picture. It is a picture of me 50 years ago.

That boy in the picture still lives inside of me!

If you hate kids then you hate yourself! I rest my case!

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RE: when/how did you know you wanted children or not? - 3/18/2012 4:07 AM   
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RE: when/how did you know you wanted children or not? - 3/18/2012 5:18 AM   
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This thread obviously troubles you Eddie. Why do you read it? Have you investigated the feature of RCU (other than your fingers) that allow you to ignore a thread?


Perhaps it's you who should review the RCU policies and rules, jessie. My point is that Clubhouse posts are supposed to be RC-related, not about child-rearing, or buying trucks, or your favorite beer/hunting dog/flower, etc. There are off-topic forums for such discussions, or you could go to Oprah's site to share family advice.



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RE: when/how did you know you wanted children or not? - 3/18/2012 5:30 AM   
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This thread obviously troubles you Eddie. Why do you read it? Have you investigated the feature of RCU (other than your fingers) that allow you to ignore a thread?


Perhaps it's you who should review the RCU policies and rules, jessie. My point is that Clubhouse posts are supposed to be RC-related, not about child-rearing, or buying trucks, or your favorite beer/hunting dog/flower, etc. There are off-topic forums for such discussions, or you could go to Oprah's site to share family advice.




Or, if you have difficulty avoiding clicking on threads you don't like, you could place your hand over your eyes. You could even come to the realization that having a child will have an effect on your RC activities. OTOH you can simply continue to complain about a thread that a number of corespondents have obviously found worthwhile.

BTW, I didn't know Oprah had a site. Do you read it often?

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RE: when/how did you know you wanted children or not? - 3/18/2012 5:35 AM   
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RE: when/how did you know you wanted children or not? - 3/18/2012 5:45 AM   
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RE: when/how did you know you wanted children or not? - 3/18/2012 6:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		I was a lot like you when I first agreed to have kids GA. I was mid-thirties, all about hobbies and otherwise saving money. I was heavily into boating, cars, and of course RC stuff. Now I have a beautiful little 2 year old girl. I was scared, just like you at the idea of raising and having a child, and what I would have to give up. (When she kicked for the first time inside her mother, we were on the beach in Hawaii. While it was exciting, my body went into a panic from the stress, I developed uncontrollable twitching so bad I thought I had Parkinsens.) And I have given up some things- I no longer fly large glow planes at the club field, instead I fly electric parkflyers, boating is now sporadic and more about parking and swimming vs wakeboarding. I donated my project car IROC to a local high school auto shop. It's about compromise. But I'd give away everything else if need be. None of that crap matters to me anymore; it's like a "dad switch" got flipped in the delivery room, and I've never looked back. Once I saw that little baby looking up at me, I knew it was going to be okay.Everytime I go get my daughter from my crib in the morning and see how excited she is to see me, she says "Daddy!" and gives me a big hug when I pick her up to change her- right now you have no idea how that feels, you just have to trust that it'll be great. My life is so much more rich and has depth like never before, and I never thought this would be the case. I shudder to think what I'd be if I just continued on my path of playing around like when I was pre-kids- you grow so much personally. You can always go back and do hobbies later in life- just think, the technology will be even better than it is now. But starting a family kinda has time limits, so give it some serious thought before you scrap the idea.

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RE: when/how did you know you wanted children or not? - 3/18/2012 10:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		This subject may be more R/C than we would like to admit. My bride and I have children, grand kids and great grand kids. Two of the boys fly with me when they have time. College, family and work is all that keeps them from flying. In one of my R/C clubs we have a couple of dudes that could never fly if it wasn't for their children. The kids bring them out and home at the end of the day. Like one of the old dudes put it. He would be wasting away in some nursing home if the boys didn't take care of him.
There has been so much posted on this subject. It is hard to figure out what this is all about. It is like the fellow that wanted to know where he should live when he returns to the States. Many had a answer for that subject as we do this one. Is this about what each of us feel? The question is how the idea of children impact the man's life and his hobby. The sport/hobby is important enough to ask the people in the sport what they think. Is this not like a question on the flying field in one of those times when we talk about things other than R/C. Radio control is very much a part of many folks life. Some of the finest people I know are in this sport. Many of us have made life long friends in this hobby. Because of who and what we are, perhaps this is the perfect place to ask the question, when/how did you know you wanted children or not.

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RE: when/how did you know you wanted children or not? - 3/18/2012 12:43 PM   
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Let's quit the bantering.

Minnflyer was one of the first few to respond to the OP - if he thought it didn't belong, he would have moved this thread.

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RE: when/how did you know you wanted children or not? - 3/18/2012 1:56 PM   
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Jessie and eddy,

Let's quit the bantering.

Minnflyer was one of the first few to respond to the OP - if he thought it didn't belong, he would have moved this thread.


Of course he would. If anyone fails to see the connection between RC (or any hobby) and their child That individual needs to watch "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" and learn to make their heart bigger.

RC has provided a tremendous opportunity for me to spend time and share interests with my children. (We don't have to be one-trick-poneys either. WE can talk about other things while at the field or in the shop.

One can even broaden thefamalies interest (sacreledge to some I Am sure and broaden our interests to include many other activities and involve our famalies in them too.

When my son was very young he was small forhis age and seemed lacking in self confidence. I got him involved in model aviation at which he excelled. The confidence he gained in that activity gave him the confidence th become MVP on his college football team. He graduated college with honore and now has completed his service in the U.S. Army. Every Christmas he gives me a model airplane engine and thanks me for takinh him flying.

No connection with kids and RC indeed.

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RE: when/how did you know you wanted children or not? - 3/18/2012 2:16 PM   
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This thread obviously troubles you Eddie. Why do you read it? Have you investigated the feature of RCU (other than your fingers) that allow you to ignore a thread?


Perhaps it's you who should review the RCU policies and rules, jessie. My point is that Clubhouse posts are supposed to be RC-related, not about child-rearing, or buying trucks, or your favorite beer/hunting dog/flower, etc. There are off-topic forums for such discussions, or you could go to Oprah's site to share family advice.




Moderator's: move this thread OFF-TOPIC where it belongs.

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RE: when/how did you know you wanted children or not? - 3/18/2012 2:21 PM   
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On a life note, it's a pretty messed up set of priorities that makes a man question the value of family because it might cost him some hobby time. Put in their proper place, we do our hobbies for our mental health and to add some fun to our lives. But family is about purpose, the thing that we are made for. I, like many others in our society today, was in my '30's when I became a dad. In a lot of ways I think the fears of losing our lifestyles (maybe even our identities?) when kids come are worse the older we get. A buddy who's my age became a dad at 21 and didn't really have any of those issues. He was young enough to be pliable and simply finished growing up with his dad duties a part of it. The point is that when the child comes he or she will be the most important thing after your wife and God (if that's a part of your life too), then work and hobbies will get their time as you are able. That's assuming you are a mature and mentally healthy man, which it sounds like the OP is given the fact he is wise enough to ask others about their experiences and generally seems to have it together in everything I've read from him.

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RE: when/how did you know you wanted children or not? - 3/18/2012 3:28 PM   
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RE: when/how did you know you wanted children or not? - 3/18/2012 4:11 PM   
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Minnflyer was one of the first few to respond to the OP - if he thought it didn't belong, he would have moved this thread. 


And if any mod were doing their job, this would have simply been moved. How hard would that have been? Just because you turn a blind eye doesn't make it right.  Sometimes it's hard /unpopular to do the right thing, even harder to admit when you're wrong. This isn't someone's little kingdom, but if we ignore these abuses it will become another 'old boy's club'.

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I'll bet some of the "users" here who don't like this thread are also the ones at their flying filed who look down on the guy who shows up to fly his trainer and/or needs some assistance and just walk away


Please don't make assumptions about someone you don't know.  I've been a full-scale instructor for 30 years, and RC instructor for about half that. I had great teachers over the years, and always try to pass on their great examples, like not being judgmental.

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RE: when/how did you know you wanted children or not? - 3/18/2012 5:42 PM   
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I got married to my wife when I was 21. I am now 34. My son was born when I was 24 (July of 2001) - I was scared as hell! There I was, still a kid myself, taking care of this little guy. I hoped an prayed every night that I would not do wrong by him.

My daughter was born in October of 2004. Again I was scared, but not near as much as the first time around.

Now, my kids are 10 and 7. At this point, I have a lot more time to do the things I want to do. My kids still come first, but I take my son to the field with me. He's on his second plane and doing very well.



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RE: when/how did you know you wanted children or not? - 3/18/2012 9:29 PM   
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This thread obviously troubles you Eddie. Why do you read it? Have you investigated the feature of RCU (other than your fingers) that allow you to ignore a thread?


Perhaps it's you who should review the RCU policies and rules, jessie. My point is that Clubhouse posts are supposed to be RC-related, not about child-rearing, or buying trucks, or your favorite beer/hunting dog/flower, etc. There are off-topic forums for such discussions, or you could go to Oprah's site to share family advice.




Eddie, you are so right.  Too bad the moderators won't step in and shut this thread down.

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RE: when/how did you know you wanted children or not? - 3/18/2012 9:32 PM   
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Jessie and eddy,

Let's quit the bantering.

Minnflyer was one of the first few to respond to the OP - if he thought it didn't belong, he would have moved this thread.


'Is Minnflyer the only one who can make that decision?  There is a very specific forum for this thread - this is not it according the to rules as I read them.  If Minnflyer won't shut it down then you should.  More than just Eddie are complaining.

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RE: when/how did you know you wanted children or not? - 3/18/2012 9:34 PM   
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In case you hadn't noticed, I did move this thread to the off-topic forum. Please stop trying to beat a dead horse!

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RE: when/how did you know you wanted children or not? - 3/18/2012 9:49 PM   
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RE: when/how did you know you wanted children or not? - 3/18/2012 10:12 PM   
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In case you hadn't noticed, I did move this thread to the off-topic forum.

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Thanks, now maybe they'll quit.

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RE: when/how did you know you wanted children or not? - 3/18/2012 10:36 PM   
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In case you hadn't noticed, I did move this thread to the off-topic forum. Please stop trying to beat a dead horse!

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Thank goodness! It had driven a couple of people into an absolute frenzy. Must be wonderful to have so little to wory about.

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RE: when/how did you know you wanted children or not? - 3/19/2012 1:47 AM   
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