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RE: Carolina Speed Rally...Again!!! - 5/1/2012 11:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Both you guys would have one of the best flying days you have had in a looonnng time!

AR, I think you and I met one time when the Revvers met up at Rabbit?
On my flight home from that I began plotting the scheme for this rally.
We really do need as many pilots as possible.

Last year the locals coming out to watch out numbered pilots. When is the last time you went to a flying event where that was the case?


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RE: Carolina Speed Rally...Again!!! - 5/1/2012 7:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		lol yes chuck i was in a hurry to post and a little tired. you and I think the same when speed is the goal although your speed is 200+ as most of mine is 150-190 area. I hope to change that by end of the summer. yes i knew you were kidding on the 66 pitch prop. i think you would need to run a 4 blade prop to run that much pitch. Two of the blades would be the 18x66 and the other two would be 26x10 blades. the 26x10 blade would help the plane take off then would shear off in flight at 6000 rpm and when the plane is on step and then the motor would unload to 10,000 with the 18x66 prop and pull your plane to around 380 mph in a slight dive. lol

Hope you and pat can make it out to fly sometime.

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RE: Carolina Speed Rally...Again!!! - 5/2/2012 1:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		Way ahead of ya' Airraptor, we were out this weekend polishing our skill at shearing blades off in flight. I still need a little practice, but I'm getting the hang of it.

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RE: Carolina Speed Rally...Again!!! - 5/2/2012 2:47 AM   
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RE: Carolina Speed Rally...Again!!! - 5/2/2012 3:08 AM   
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RE: Carolina Speed Rally...Again!!! - 5/2/2012 4:34 AM   
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RE: Carolina Speed Rally...Again!!! - 5/2/2012 4:51 AM   
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Good thing I'm from Michigan.


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RE: Carolina Speed Rally...Again!!! - 5/2/2012 5:11 AM   
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yeah that looks expensive! loose cowl or engine?

Loose cowl, it was mounted on the Bear with 3 1/4-20 nylon bolts, and I had just torqued fresh ones in there during some maintenance, but it came loose right away anyway. The brand spankin' new, first out of the mold 15x17" prop I was testing is so extremely thin bladed that it may have some torsional vibration issues. We will home in on that, but I've been having trouble keeping the cowl tight all along. We're changing the way the cowl mounts while we repair it.

The really cool thing is that because we have the mold that the cowl was born out of, we just bed it back in the mold, surface coat the corresponding damage area in the mold with resin pigmented to match the orange paint, put the cowl in, glass the damage from the inside, vacuum bag it, and were done. If you look close you'll be able to see the repair, but the shape will be dead perfect again, quick and easy.

But I digress, Vicman, I shall cease thread hi-jackage activities commencing immediately.

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RE: Carolina Speed Rally...Again!!! - 5/2/2012 5:24 AM   
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Somehow I think that might be a jab at NC???
Good thing I'm from Michigan.

Oh no! it's really reeally not. I actually say that all the time to people that can't believe the performance we get out of the crappy plastic airplanes we make. Ask any of my friends, they get tired of hearing it...

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RE: Carolina Speed Rally...Again!!! - 5/2/2012 11:32 AM   
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So since you are not coming out to the rally, what is stopping your plane?


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RE: Carolina Speed Rally...Again!!! - 5/2/2012 4:22 PM   
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24 oz of 55% nitro gets me 4 1/2 minutes of motor run.
How many refueling stops, with around 190mph cruise speed, would said transcontinental flight be?

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RE: Carolina Speed Rally...Again!!! - 5/2/2012 5:28 PM   
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RE: Carolina Speed Rally...Again!!! - 5/2/2012 5:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Let's see roughly 12 miles per tank (taking into account takeoff and landing) roughly 2800 miles I get 234 refueling stops. Figures out to roughly 17.5 hrs airborne (figuring 5 min for each refuel) 19 1/2 hours refueling for a total trip time of 37 hours. lol Your talking about 44 gallons of 55% nitro fuel that's one whopping big fuel bill.
You may want to consider drop tanks...


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RE: Carolina Speed Rally...Again!!! - 5/2/2012 7:01 PM   
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The big brown truck gets waayyyy better mileage.


Ya, sure, but I would be seriously tempted to accompany my airpain there flying it from a convertable Ferrari before I would trust the
big brown box bulldozer. [>:]

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RE: Carolina Speed Rally...Again!!! - 5/4/2012 5:20 PM   
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RE: Carolina Speed Rally...Again!!! - 5/4/2012 9:00 PM   
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No offense taken. Anybody from my old home town of Fairfield Californ-I-AY is OK with me!


Propstryker, I grew up around Fairfield too. At one time or another I've lived in just about every town in Solano county. My family came to Fairfield CA in 1971 when my dad got back from Vietnam, and was stationed to Travis A.F.B..
Fairfield (and lake Berryessa) were always my stomping grounds. I ended up moving to Sacramento for 20 odd years and hated living in a big city. But finally I moved back to FF 3yrs ago, just to go to A&P tech. school at Nut Tree airport, and to spend more time with my mom while she's still around.

Fairfield is still a nice relaxed place, still windy all the time (great high speed slope soaring in the hills around the town). The S.F. Bay breeze really keeps it from being butt assed hot like Sacramento in the summer.
Your words help me remember not to take the good stuff for granted, and next time I get to rip diving downwind passes in a 40 mph wind, I promise I'll think of you, and all the other Fairfield prodigal sons. Salute Sir!

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RE: Carolina Speed Rally...Again!!! - 5/4/2012 9:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		one thing i have done on large/long cowls is to make a mount that either comes off the engine mount with a wood dowl of correct size then extend out to the cowl and use regular screws. As you know long heavy cowl put a lot of stress on little holes (1/4) and will eat away at the composite. if the enginge is soft mounted then could make a small 1/4 ply support that is glued to th firewall and extends as far forward as you can. any amount of support you can add to the front end of the cowl will help. I havent seen your plane in person yet so i am only taking a guess here but those are my thoughts on it. Might help.



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RE: Carolina Speed Rally...Again!!! - 5/14/2012 1:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		Lets throw another in the FF circle. My dad was stationed at Travis also. My first r/c flights were at Solano collage.


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RE: Carolina Speed Rally...Again!!! - 5/14/2012 3:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Right on, let's hear it for Fairfield, CA!!! We may have to start a FF CA forum! I like that it all ties in with airplane modeling somewhere or another. I could bore ya'll all night with FF stories having lived there for so long.
1962 as a wee lad moved to Vallejo where my uncle taught me how to fly control line; Fox .35, scratch built planes.
Move to FF the following year. FF was a huge metropolis of 15,000 people. It's a little larger than that now, isn't it? Wonder World was just being built, there was still a drive in theater at the end of North Texas street, and there were missles hidden underground atop Cement Hill during the Cold War.
Cox .049 PT19 in the Anna Kyle play field where I went to school, followed by larger, .35 & .45 Enya control line in the same field. No mufflers at that time. Joined the Air Force (of course, who else are you going to join when you grew up in the shadow of Travis AFB and your father was in the Army Air Corp in WWII?) and got back into control line with a Sterling Ring Master.
For speedracerntrixie: I once got thrown out of (asked to leave) the Solano College football field for flying control line! No muffler, etc. I don't know why the coach was upset.
Fairfield High, Solano College, SF State Univ., then moved closer to the Bay Area for work where I joined BARCS (Bay Area Radio Control Society) and learned how to fly RC. Yes, I've even flown off the sod field near Anheiser Busch.
I could spend hours talking about Lake Berryessa. Many days spent cruising up there by car or motorcycle, swimming, boating or skiing. Oh, and let us not forget the amazing former annual float fly at Clearlake for those of us to have been fortunate enough to attend.
One more; who else has a jelly bean factory that makes jelly beans that ended up on a president's desk, in the Oval Office and at every meeting he had? The answer is the one and only Jelly Belly Factory in FF. As a matter of fact, way out here in Asheville, NC, we just finished up a Mother's Day celebration and my daughter presented my wife with, you guessed it, a bag of Belly Flops!
One more for C Roundy; my father used to drive a cab at Travis AFB during the Viet Nam war. He and the other cabbies would drive back and forth from Travis, taking the arriving GI's to the SF Airport so they could fly home. He might have driven your Dad somewhere upon his arrival. I am a Vietnam-Era vet who never got orders to "over there". I'm very happy your Dad made it back safely.
One last one for C Roundy...The Nut Tree is a very significant place in the history of Solano County. There of course used to be the famous Nut Tree Resturant there for many many years and now I believe apartments or something were built in its place, along with the Coffee Tree across the highway. Actually, my first RC airplane was an Airtronics Q-T with an .049 that I first flew in the open field that is now the mega shopping area in Vacaville on the other side of the highway from the Nut Tree Airport. Sigh.... progress. I used to attend some great full scale aerobatic shows at the Nut Tree Airport. Steve Serengeti (I know I just spelled his last name wrong) owns or used to own a resturant in Vacaville, always flew war birds, and now his son competes in the Reno Air Races.
As they say in the movies, "Tanks for da memories"!

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RE: Carolina Speed Rally...Again!!! - 5/14/2012 10:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sheeiiit, you guys got me so full of inbred redneck NorCal hick town pride I could just bust!

Speedracerntrixie, no matter how long I live, I will never forget the sound an 8 lb, fiberglass, "Mach 1" pattern ship makes when it hits one of the hollow steel light poles in the Solano college parking lot at about 110 mph. Its been 41 years so far since I saw that happen, and I can still hear it ringing...

Propstryker, I actually got goose bumps reading your abbreviated but chock full account of Fairfield life back then. Its almost like we just took turns living the same life.

In a nutshell: control line (but with Torpedo .29 on my RingMaster, at Mary Bird schoolyard behind our house, (a few blocks north of Anna Kyle)), WonderWorld, N. Texas drive-in, and Nike missile site on top of Cement hill, check check and big check (when we were little, me and my best friend usta' ditch our bikes at the bottom, sneak up the hill past the pissed off rock salt shotgun totin' farmer, and explore the old missile installation). I too once got thrown outa' Solano college football field, (but it uhh, wasn't for flying airplanes), etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.... Right Down The Line.

Thank you for your thoughts about my father's safe return from 'Nam, (and all the other many thousands of Veterans who came back through Travis AFB). I am positive your dad damn well made them feel welcome back home, (unlike other large portions of the American public at the time) I salute your father and you both for serving Sir!

Regarding Nut Tree Airport, I too have very strong feelings for the old airport, and I too wish more locals would realize what an important county resource and historic site it is! Besides being a military pilot, my dad held a civilian A&P mech. license and did all his own maintenance on his beloved 1962 Mooney that we kept there. Through the 70's, I spent hundreds of Saturdays on the ramp with my dad, restoring and maintaining it. We flew the hell out that plane, all over the continent, in every kind of weather, over and over. And we always made it home, exhausted, deaf, and happy, to Nut Tree.

Dads been gone a long time now, but finally, all these decades later here I am back at Nut Tree 4 days a week, for the last 3 yrs, keeping my life long promise to myself, to take my A&P license too. What an indescribable privilege it is to be able to do it at the old airport where I learned to fly and work on airplanes as a boy.

Most days I show up before school, just to walk slowly around the big ramp for a half hour or so, through the tied-down airplanes, watching others come and go, and letting my mind wander across the years...

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RE: Carolina Speed Rally...Again!!! - 5/15/2012 12:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ok Guys, I guess it's my turn..........We had base housing for a while there at Travis. I remember climbing up on the roof to watch the Thunderbirds practice. It was cool to watch them put the T-38s through the paces. A few years before that we were at Dyess AFB watching them fly F-4s. My first flights were with a Jensen Ugly Stick, Webra Blackhead .61 and Kraft KP5C combo out at Solano Collage. My first kit build, a Bridi Tweety Bird test flew and died there. In 1978 I attended FF high my Freshman year. At one point after my folks split up we lived off of Leisure Town rd. I flew CL in the golf course parking lot. I bet those guys loved the 049s scraming away as they tried to putt. We used to ride our bikes over to the Black Oak for some free almonds, then to the Nut Tree to watch the airplanes and take a ride on the train. Remember the fantastic display models in the Nut Tree gift shop. They were built by Eddie Chavez I think. Man I could and did spend hours at a time there. There was a hobby shop there right off of Alamo dr opposite side of the lot from Thrifties. He once had a T tailed pattern airplane behind the counter I thought was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Little did I know that an aerobatic T tail would fly like poop, it didn't matter it was so cool. I too flew off the sod farm behind the brewery. My dad had a Mach 1 with a ST 60 blue head and Kraft retracts. Ahh the memories. We moved to San Jose in '79. I pass through the area on a regular basis heading up to SAMs for a race but it has changes so much I hardly recognise anything.


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RE: Carolina Speed Rally...Again!!! - 5/15/2012 12:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		It's fun reading you guys swapping spit here about the hometown but I got an official Speed Rally post to make.

I got the joy box from RTL fasteners tonight and man did they hook us up! There is a ton of stuff in there and the little boxes to boot. They also sent a stack of coupons for $59 off. If you guys who don't make the rally are interested in a coupon, let me know. After the event if I have any left I'll pass them on.

Still waiting to hear from Horizon.

I've also got some great participant items that I'm working on. You guys will love it!


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RE: Carolina Speed Rally...Again!!! - 5/15/2012 1:06 AM   
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RE: Carolina Speed Rally...Again!!! - 5/15/2012 1:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		I understand... it's not like I came out to Rabbit twice or anything like that.

It makes me feel good that speed freaks from across the USA and abroad keep an eye on this thread and the event. It's the support of guys like you that make the locals come out and try harder.


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RE: Carolina Speed Rally...Again!!! - 5/20/2012 4:10 AM   
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