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Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build - 4/13/2012 4:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Having recently completed a somewhat long term build on a highly modified kit I am looking forward to starting my next project, a Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28.

I will, of course, make some modifications as I go but I am hoping to build the kit more or less stock.  I will be going over the plans for the next week or so and after my review I will make a decision on how to power the model.  I have a new in box Zenoah G-26 purchased but not used on my last build vs. an electric powered model.  I am growing really attracted to the electric side of the hobby so I will likely look at how I can get an electric system into the plane first and if I determine electric is not an option then I will default to the Zenoah as a second plan.

Here is what the kit looked like when it arrived....  Contents of the box are in good shape and were packed nicely.  I'm not sure how the cat got in there.

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RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build - 4/13/2012 6:07 AM   
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RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build - 4/13/2012 12:02 PM   
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RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build - 4/13/2012 2:39 PM   
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RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build - 4/13/2012 8:22 PM   
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RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build - 4/13/2012 11:48 PM   
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RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build - 4/14/2012 7:44 PM   
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RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build - 4/14/2012 11:19 PM   
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 another good build on the way



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RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build - 4/15/2012 1:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		After looking over the plans and after I played with some battery configurations on top of the plans I decided an electric variant is a possible choice for this model.

If I install the batteries in a vertical configuration they will fit easily into the cowl.  If I make the top portion of the cowl removable then I will be able to access the batteries.  This will also leave the sides available for mounting the cowl.  My initial plan is to incorporate a stop block into the removable portion of the cowl.  This stop block will act as a keeper for each battery which will be secured to trays slid into some vertical rails.  All this will be on the firewall where I am sure some weight will be needed.

The model already has a "Cooling Tunnel" built into the fuselage at the bottom of the firewall.  In the photo the batteries are all the way down to this "Tunnel".  My plan is to make a secondary firewall that will have the mounting rails for the batteries and the actual motor mounted to it.  This secondary firewall will bolt onto the firewall built into the model.  The stock formers in the area of the firewall are balsa and not up to the task of holding the weight of the batteries.

If you look at the photo of the batteries you can see the curved area just above them.  This is the section I plan to have removable to access the batteries.

The second to last photo, of the ruler on the plans, show there is easily enough ground clearance for just about any prop.

Decisions, Decisions!

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RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build - 4/15/2012 1:51 AM   
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what about weight would she be very nose heavy?

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RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build - 4/15/2012 2:00 AM   
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RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build - 4/15/2012 4:14 AM   
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what about weight would she be very nose heavy?

Pretty much any plane that the full scale had a round engine in will come out tail heavy in a model, just a fact of life builders should know in advance. Most WWI planes have very short nose moments.

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RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build - 4/15/2012 4:18 AM   
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A few guys do the bungee suspension, but some that have gone to all the trouble say its not worth the effort.

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RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build - 4/15/2012 4:25 AM   
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RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build - 4/15/2012 4:41 AM   
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RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build - 4/15/2012 2:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here is what the gas motor installation would look like, simple with no issues to work around.....

What do you guys think?  Gas or Electric?  What would you rather see?

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RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build - 4/15/2012 3:47 PM   
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RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build - 4/15/2012 4:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would go gas, with the G-26 side mounted carb you will not have the issue of recessing the firewall I had on the DRI. I am guessing you will still be mounting everything else up against the back of the firewall for balance.
I will be watching with interest.
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RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build - 4/15/2012 8:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		So far that is two votes for gas....  I am starting to think the Zenoah is the right choice.

I just ordered a new backplate for my Zenoah because the one that is on the motor now was modified (Cut) to fit my Cub prior to changing that build into an electric.  The motor was never run on that model because I change to electric mid-build.

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RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build - 4/15/2012 8:28 PM   
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RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build - 4/15/2012 8:45 PM   
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RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build - 4/15/2012 9:00 PM   
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RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build - 4/15/2012 9:01 PM   
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RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build - 4/15/2012 9:43 PM   
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I'll go with the Zenoah G-26 (Electronic Ignition).

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RE: Balsa USA 1/4 Scale Nieuport 28 Build - 4/15/2012 10:15 PM   
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