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phmaximus
That Losi 5ive-T looks awesome. Definetly on top of my RC wishlist. I alway wanted to try out a gasser but they have been out of my price range.

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Some of those are fast actually, but the ones that are don't appear to be stock. The stock ones have good top end and decent mid range. It's the bottom end where they seem slow to me. The ones that were racing were pretty sweet. I like the truck, but the bottom end could be better. I guess it isn't a big deal if you aren't on a technical track.

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PH, please can you calm down on the 5t now? We get the idea, you like it. I wondered why you brought it up in the first place in a thread asking for comparisons to a 1/8th brushless MT, now you've fully hijacked the thread. Giant scale section=thataway. -> Thanks.

As for the truggy vs MT debate, its always gonna be personal taste.

I foresee a lock in this thread's imminent future if we can't make some constructive debate soonish...

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GS used to have a car called a XUT....OFNA had the Pirate .........


what you diehard MT guys need to realize is a truggy is a unlimited Monster Truck.......... Truggies are the evolution of the MT..... Take the best aspects of a MT and combine them with the best aspects of a Buggy.....Making it the most versatile reliable general purpose platform there is....... You can go outbash a MT, then the next day go head to head against a 1/8 buggy around the track and usually win..........Yes they are easy to drive, and usually make what a MT would consider obstacles seem easy ( driving on flat land taxxes a MT's handling LOL ) ........But if your creative an can think outside the parking lot a truggy can deliver actual high performance offroad running, capable of doing things that would be impossible to do with any MT............... IN all around versatility, durability, performance, reliability and ease of maintenance a truggy is a much better platform....... A MT is designed to look cool on the shelf, a Truggy is designed to actually perform ....One is built with aesthetics being primary concern, the other built with performance being the main concern

There is so much wrong in this post, who knows where to start, you start by saying truggies are monster trucks...??? take the best aspects of a monster truck...hmmm big tires, 2 speed, high ground clearance, huge suspention travel,crappy handling.....ummm. none of them are on a truggy last time i checked...maybe i am missing something.
Diehard mt truck guys??? whats that supposed to mean, i guess u and yakfish are the kings of the rc world and if you dont ''like'' it, then it must be.....what was it....oh ya...''designed to look cool on a shelf''. that makes absolutely no sense???

truggys are so awesome, and so are monster trucks, they both bring different pros/cons to the rc world.
You should go down to the local hobby shop, and argue with everone that buys a monster truck because you dont like it.
that would be as productive as your posts on here.
i understand everyone has a favourite, but to say that the other side of the fence is horrible in everyway because you dont own it....well thats just silly.

First off... LOL! ''King of the RC world'' LOL!!

Bigger tires? The tires that come with a stock MT like a Savage, Tmaxx or Revo are around 5.7-6.3 inches in diameter. The stock RC8s come with tires that are 5.7 inches, the Thunder tiger ST-1 come with tire that are 5.25 inches, the Ofna Nexx 8t comes with 5.5 inch tires. So are truggy tire smaller? Sometimes. Significantly smaller? Probably not. Not to mention you can put any number of tires sizes on a truggy that you want. As I have already mentioned there are times when I run a set of 40 series tires on my truggies.

Ground clearance and suspension travel? This is all adjustable on both MT's and truggies. Although much more so with a truggy. How many times have you seen people lower their MT's suspension in order to try and acheive truggy like handling? Quite often? And how many times have you seen people raise the truggies suspension to match the MT's ground clearance? Some, but not so often. I wonder why this would be?

2 speed? The Thunder Tiger ST-1 had a optional 2 speed available you could install if you wanted. So 2 speeds in a truggy really aren't unheard of just not all that common. I would say that they aren't as common in a truggy due to reliability issues. It really is just one more thing to break. I hated the trannies in my Traxxas MT's they were a pain in the butt to remove, open up and fix. With a center diff you really never have to worry about durablility. 2 speeds are another example of the cool factor. I admit it is cool to hear a shift at 30,000 rpm on a nitro engine. But a truggy is still faster with a single speed than an MT is with a 2 speed.

So yeah I guess you are missing something.

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i understand everyone has a favourite, but to say that the other side of the fence is horrible in everyway because you dont own it....well thats just silly.

Nowhere in this thread did I or anyone else say that MT's are horrble in everyway. Also just because I preffer truggies over MT's, don't assume its becasue I don't own one. Because your right that would be silly to come to that kind of conclusion with no actual experience. I have at some point owned at least one MT of most major brands. HPI, Traxxas, AE, Losi. I don't even know how many I have owned over the years. But I'll tell you what. I sold them all after I bought my first truggy. Why?? Becuase the MT didn't fill out a niche anymore for me. The truggy did everything the MT's did and then some. And I could spend more time driving and less time wrenching.

I am going to venture a guess and say you have never owned a truggy yourself. Am I right?

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PH, please can you calm down on the 5t now? We get the idea, you like it. I wondered why you brought it up in the first place in a thread asking for comparisons to a 1/8th brushless MT, now you've fully hijacked the thread. Giant scale section=thataway. -> Thanks.

As for the truggy vs MT debate, its always gonna be personal taste.

I foresee a lock in this thread's imminent future if we can't make some constructive debate soonish...

my bad maby I got the OP's question wrong... On what page did he turn into a 1/8th brushless MT to Truggy comparisons?

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PH, please can you calm down on the 5t now? We get the idea, you like it. I wondered why you brought it up in the first place in a thread asking for comparisons to a 1/8th brushless MT, now you've fully hijacked the thread. Giant scale section=thataway. -> Thanks.

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ORIGINAL: HalP!

as title sais. is anything coming out soon that can compete with the savage flux hp, or better even?

thanks,

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Hey come on im just excited about my new car, hey for $1700 i have to like it. My wife is sick of hearing about it allready & the giant scale fourms are dead, I just wanted to talk about it lol

hey kenny im supprised u havent recommended a summit yet..

But back on topic...

What makes a MT a MT?
what makes a truggy a truggy.
Can u turn a MT into a truggy by lowering it & fitting a spoiler?
Can u turn a Truggy into a MT with larger wheels and a diffrent body?

Well in my mind a truggy is a buggy with a larger body.
and a MT is generally a unique chassis.

Or should we only consider MT, chassis with solid axles?

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hey kenny im supprised u havent recommended a summit yet..

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In the spirit of keeping this thread on topic. I would go for the Thunder Tiger MT4 G3 that has already been mentioned over the Savage Flux. But if you are open to a truggy take a look at them too!LOL

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In the spirit of keeping this thread on topic. I would go for the Thunder Tiger MT4 G3 that has already been mentioned over the Savage Flux. But if you are open to a truggy take a look at them too!LOL

MT4 is a truggy, and a monster truck. Best of all worlds. Oh, wait, we're back to the first post...

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You should stick with the savage flux hp, extremely stong platform, probably the fastest monster truck available, aftermarket parts galore, and the best selling feature, replacement parts available at any local hobby store. Its also an excellent looking truck, decent handling, and its an actual monster truck (not a truggy with big tires). If your already comparing everyother truck against the savage (which is very common), I think thats your answer.
Cheers, and at the end of the day no matter what you buy, I am sure you will enjoy it.

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You should stick with the savage flux hp, extremely stong platform, probably the fastest monster truck available, aftermarket parts galore, and the best selling feature, replacement parts available at any local hobby store. Its also an excellent looking truck, decent handling, and its an actual monster truck (not a truggy with big tires). If your already comparing everyother truck against the savage (which is very common), I think thats your answer.
Cheers, and at the end of the day no matter what you buy, I am sure you will enjoy it.

Just don't see how you can say its an 'extremely strong platform'. Even on 4s, the method of mounting wheels to the hubs is inadequate, on 6s you need to use epoxy! I ran on 4s for a while, then when I switched to 6s, I killed a diff in 10 minutes flat (yes, they were properly shimmed and rebuilt with appropriate oils prior to that, it was a weak spider gear). The slipper is piss-poor too. Then the famous drive gear exploded. There is absolutely no excuse for not including in the kit: a wheel mounting system that is standard for 1/8th cars, and drivetrain parts which can handle the advertised power. It's an expensive car, CONSIDERABLY more expensive than the better Thunder Tiger. For that kind of money I want to see a proper captured pin hub system from a 1/8th buggy, properly hardened drivetrain parts (which even the lowliest Hyper 7 budget basher has both, for half the price of the Flux), and Universal driveshafts. All of which are included as standard on the Thunder Tiger.

I'm done ranting now. If you want to spend another 150 bucks minimum to make it what it should have been out of the box and end up with a MT fractionally better than the Thunder Tiger as it comes out of the box, be my guest. Personally, I wish the Thunder Tiger had been available before I bought the Savage, as I have always been a big advocate of Thunder Tiger stuff and would have gone for it without hesitation (I still might), it's only marketing the reason they never made it big in the US, they are after all the second biggest RC company in the world (IIRC), and are HUGELY underrated in the car arena. The ST-1 truggy is one of the most durable truggy platforms there ever has been.