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(I am also puzzled by another poster's claim that excess earnings can't be used to reduce member dues. No reason for that statement is given, and it makes no sense: excess earnings can be used for anything the AMA wants to use them for. Whether the AMA uses them wisely is, of course, another matter, on which I have no opinion.)

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(I am also puzzled by another poster's claim that excess earnings can't be used to reduce member dues. No reason for that statement is given, and it makes no sense: excess earnings can be used for anything the AMA wants to use them for. Whether the AMA uses them wisely is, of course, another matter, on which I have no opinion.)

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ORIGINAL: Hossfly

In another forum where most posters here never venture, some were complementing the ''NEW LOOK'' of AMA's magazine, Model Aviation. Of course I just had to bring the total item to light, expecially for those that just recently arrived into the realm of model aviation. Items being discused touched on the FAI programs, the ''New Look'' and a few other subjects that may be or not be covered in my response.
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1. The new ''Model Aviation'' is definitely a superior magazine. In that regard why is it not a profit making ''Unrelated Business'' as it was so intended to be back around 1977 when the mag. went commercial? Why does the membership have to support a commercial magazine within the realm of an Internal Revenue Code 501 (c) (3)? If Fly RC, MAN, FM, etc. had such an opportunity they too would be much much more informative to the readers. Unfortunately, MA under the ''unrelated business'' status of a tax exempt organization has YOU to pay the bills.

Don't believe it! Go read the annual audits. If you can read a very basic Financial Audit Report, it's all there in black and white.
https://www.modelaircra...10financialstatement.pdf

Model Aviation costs YOU, an AMA member, twice or close to it, what the Public Liability Insurance program costs you. It darn well should be great! It has twice the staff working on it as there is working for membership.

As far as the FAI Programs, I don't care about FAI for myself, however if I had my way, FAI would be a top priority. Team members would be 100% First Class supported and all the News Medias would receive reports on how well they did. I stand strong for United States FIRST!
AMA is the U.S. Organization under the National Aeronautical Association, under the Federation Aeronautic International (sp ?) and should behave accordingly.

It seems that all the AMA and most of the membership want is to be just one big model airplane club. That is sad to me, but then I have been a modeler for almost 71 of my 76 years. It has been a way of life.
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ORIGINAL: MTK

MA Magazine is an almost useless rag to the competition pilot. If it wasn't for Robin Hunt's articles and how to's, it would have been totally useless. Several fellows writing competition columns don't have much of a clue. AMA's guise has been that the mag ''serves the membership''....NOT US! But I'll give them that the mag serves all those that are into park flying and toy flying. It has been reduced to junk status

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ORIGINAL: vpresley

Model Aviation is the AMA National News Letter and information source. It is not about any one segment of Model Aviation, its about all. It covers popular as well as unpopular subjects. It is also subject trends of the hobby. It will never be a commercial success as some think it should, it cant because of its intent to cover all of model aviation. I fly dont Ukie, but it should still be covered, I dont do Pattern, 3D, Scale, free Flight, Rubber, Jets or any of the other types that are out there. But they should still be covered, I do like to read the articles from time to time and see what else is going on in the hobby. I have no axe to grind about any particular subject of model aviation, or the Politics of the AMA. Over the years, I think the AMA has become more responsvie to the membership as a whole. I have talked to the AMA on occasion as needed and always found them to be helpful to me. I think they are still improving. What I dont like are these Self Important PSEUDO Spokesman, and there little gaggle of followers always saying ''Well Ya Know'' this or that, and always being part of the problem, not part of the cure. If ya cant get elected thats your problem not mine. So dont always be taking Pot Shots at those that did get elected and are doing there jobs. I dont like seeing the same people all the time doing the ''Well Ya Know'' Horse Puckey. I will putting those people on permanent ignore from now on. Even if you are a life member, dont make a life of complaining and discontent, GO FLY and have some fun!


Vince AMA 7051

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ORIGINAL: Hossfly

In another forum where most posters here never venture, some were complementing the ''NEW LOOK'' of AMA's magazine, Model Aviation. Of course I just had to bring the total item to light, expecially for those that just recently arrived into the realm of model aviation. Items being discused touched on the FAI programs, the ''New Look'' and a few other subjects that may be or not be covered in my response.
>>>>
1. The new ''Model Aviation'' is definitely a superior magazine. In that regard why is it not a profit making ''Unrelated Business'' as it was so intended to be back around 1977 when the mag. went commercial? Why does the membership have to support a commercial magazine within the realm of an Internal Revenue Code 501 (c) (3)? If Fly RC, MAN, FM, etc. had such an opportunity they too would be much much more informative to the readers. Unfortunately, MA under the ''unrelated business'' status of a tax exempt organization has YOU to pay the bills.

Don't believe it! Go read the annual audits. If you can read a very basic Financial Audit Report, it's all there in black and white.
https://www.modelaircra...10financialstatement.pdf

Model Aviation costs YOU, an AMA member, twice or close to it, what the Public Liability Insurance program costs you. It darn well should be great! It has twice the staff working on it as there is working for membership.

As far as the FAI Programs, I don't care about FAI for myself, however if I had my way, FAI would be a top priority. Team members would be 100% First Class supported and all the News Medias would receive reports on how well they did. I stand strong for United States FIRST!
AMA is the U.S. Organization under the National Aeronautical Association, under the Federation Aeronautic International (sp ?) and should behave accordingly.

It seems that all the AMA and most of the membership want is to be just one big model airplane club. That is sad to me, but then I have been a modeler for almost 71 of my 76 years. It has been a way of life.
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MA Magazine is an almost useless rag to the competition pilot. If it wasn't for Robin Hunt's articles and how to's, it would have been totally useless. Several fellows writing competition columns don't have much of a clue. AMA's guise has been that the mag ''serves the membership''....NOT US! But I'll give them that the mag serves all those that are into park flying and toy flying. It has been reduced to junk status

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ORIGINAL: Top_Gunn

Using profits to reduce dues is not distributing them to the members. Non-profits can't pay dividends. But they certainly can use their profits to support their non-profit activities, and when they do that the need to keep dues high is reduced. Major Tomski was right, but you misunderstood what he was saying.

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It has to be hell to live on a fixed income.

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It has to be hell to live on a fixed income.

Yes. Yes it is. But I still find a way to pay my AMA dues and do so gladly.

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ORIGINAL: JohnShe

There are more than you think who pay their dues gladly.  With  or without the old geezers discount.  Like tarasdad, I too live on a fixed income.  But my worries are more like where the money for my next LiPo is coming from.

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There are more than you think who pay their dues gladly.  With  or without the old geezers discount.  Like tarasdad, I too live on a fixed income.  But my worries are more like where the money for my next LiPo is coming from.

Since i have only a few electrict planes my worries are what motor and what size lipo to buy. Iam still trying to find the right combo for my scratch built short solent .I am happy to see we have a few more here who pay with out crying about it.

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ORIGINAL: littlecrankshaf

Don’t mid paying...and I would contribute even more, much more if AMA would look for and find more ways to promote model aviation that does not require membership for the benefit...but that is just me... I know that goes against what most here have been taught...

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Don’t mid paying...and I would contribute even more, much more if AMA would look for and find more ways to promote model aviation that does not require membership for the benefit...but that is just me... I know that goes against what most here have been taught...

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ORIGINAL: Red Scholefield

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Don’t mid paying...and I would contribute even more, much more if AMA would look for and find more ways to promote model aviation that does not require membership for the benefit...but that is just me... I know that goes against what most here have been taught...

Sounds like this is becoming the American way, wanting it all without contributing. ''To each according to his need, from each according to their ability.” Well spoken, comrad.