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RE: Hobby king customer service - 5/28/2012 2:42 PM   
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Rocking Daddy, thanks for the info about the ASP 4 stroke. With the new needle valve my baby boy (age 45) got it purring like a kitten. However, when I screwed the high speed down counting the turns so I could take it out to replce the cowl it was only about 1/2 turn from bottom. Winds have been in the 25-35 MPH so haven't flown to see how it really flys. Speaking to LHS, the one here is 12 miles away and my truck gets 10MPH. At $3.50 per gal it costs me $7.00 just to get to and from the shop. Then he runs mostly a mail order, he nevers has in stock what I need but can order it. Therefore it is another trip and back when the item comes in. To top it all off local sales tax is just under 10%. I can order from Tower on Monday and have the item at my door by Friday. With their mailing cost the item is about 20% cheeper than LHS. There was a LHS about 18 miles away who always had merchandise but they closed. I could always depend on them having the product and not need to order. However the first has been in business here for 25 years and his marketing has not changed regardless of everyone complaining, he stills makes a living out of the shop.

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RE: Hobby king customer service - 5/28/2012 2:47 PM   
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neaew@msn.com">oneaew@msn.com,
Happy Birthday!!!!!!!! I myself am 63 years old and about 20 years ago(1992) I hurt my back by doing some stupid, heavy pulling at work. Ever since I had chronic back pain in my lower back. When I lift something heavy, the next morning the lower back pain would be so severe that I could not walk to the bathroom but I have to roll off the bed and crawl to the bathroom and sometimes the pain is so bad I could not work for several days. Then in November 1999 I began fasting for 24 hours every Monday with water only....no juice, soda, soup, coffee or food of any kind....just water only for 24 hours and within a few months by February 2000 the lower back pain left my body never to return. I still continue to pray and fast every Monday even now. Last month I and my family started having communion with prayer at our home every day before dinnertime and then.............my shortness of breath and getting tired easily coming home from an 8 hour workday totally exhausted stopped all of a sudden!!!! Now I have energy even after an 8 hour workday and no more shortness of breath............all I will say is that "the Lord is good and His mercy endure forever." When I get to be your age at 80 I will still be flying these airplanes and greasing the landings. Happy Landings(er....birthday I mean to say). 'Nuff said and God Bless. Larry.

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RE: Hobby king customer service - 5/28/2012 2:55 PM   
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Hobby King may save you a little money , But is it worth the trouble?

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RE: Hobby king customer service - 5/28/2012 3:03 PM   
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with all the bad things you read about hk> everyone take notice> some items are good most bad> 7 months trying to get one item straighten out > whats wrong with the people over ther they need to send there people to school> ill pay more get everything in the usa> but it has to say made in the usa or i dont need it

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RE: Hobby king customer service - 5/28/2012 4:31 PM   
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All the Radio Control radios for us(hobbyists) are made in Taiwan, China or Japan. Kraft, Orbit, Logictrol are all home grown made in the U.S.A. RC radios......but they all went out of business about 20 years ago.......they were at the time killed by the cheap RC radios from Japan(Futaba) that were using cheap electronic chips made in Japan. The consumer, whether American, European or Asian or whatever will go where the good deals are. It is not where they are made.......but is it a good deal for the consumer??? The China made hobby gasoline engine, glow engines, brushless motors will continue to improve just like what Futaba and OS did way back when I started in the model airplane hobby way back in 1969 on control line with the "cheapo" .09 OS "Pet" glow engine powered model airplane and RC airplanes way back in 1979 with the "cheapo" Futaba RC radio...when K&B glow engines were top of the line in 1969 and Phil Kraft radios were top of the line way back in 1979. Then O.S. and Futaba constantly made improvements and today they are top of the line in engines and radios. The same thing is happening now with the China made radios and engines........Hitec, Airtronics, Magnum etc. They are constantly being improved......and made in the good old U.S.A. RC radios have been extinct for 20 years now. Zenoah engines which are top quality engines are made in Japan. Yes, I definitely want to buy American.........but is it a good deal??? If the quality is there and the difference is only a few bucks...not hundreds of dollars.......then I would definitely buy American made. You have to give the consumer a good deal, that is plain and simple business economics, not charge him hundreds of dollars more for the same stuff that in the end will pancake in some bad crash landing after all. 'Nuff said. Larry.

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RE: Hobby king customer service - 5/28/2012 9:58 PM   
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with all the bad things you read about hk> everyone take notice> some items are good most bad> 7 months trying to get one item straighten out > whats wrong with the people over ther they need to send there people to school> ill pay more get everything in the usa> but it has to say made in the usa or i dont need it



Nonsense, then you are not a RC aficionado... Plus, go find USA grown Balsa wood, of course you do not drink coffee either (unless you buy the expensive stuff from hawaii... )

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RE: Hobby king customer service - 5/29/2012 9:38 PM   
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Hobby King may save you a little money , But is it worth the trouble?


I saved a LOT of money buy purchasing from HK.
Got every thing on time (1~2 weeks) except of one that got lost here in the Israeli post...
When you go you your LHS, you will pay for the same items 3 times more (shipped) for what?
Do your math and figure it out, simple...

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RE: Hobby king customer service - 5/29/2012 10:39 PM  1 votes
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Hobby King may save you a little money , But is it worth the trouble?


I'll bet you haven't purchased much from them or you would understand how wrong that statement is.

They have their faults, but they've saved me a WHOLE LOT.

Worth the trouble?

Certainly or else they would not have my business.

If they get too frustrating to deal with I'll simply go elsewhere.






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RE: Hobby king customer service - 5/30/2012 6:09 AM   
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Why is it cheaper to  manufacture and sell in China?         In the USA with the Government restrictions,  labor laws,  taxation, insurance,  and EPA restrictions, the cost of doing business in the US has  sky rocketed.    The cost of labor here is gotten out of hand with the unions.   Look at GM and AMR.  AMR is going broke because of  union demands.     

China has none of these  restrictions,  and EPA is unheard of there.     The Chinese labor force is happy with a  dollar a day in wages.  

The US  businesses can not compete with this.    With todays taxation,  labor restrictions, epa, insurance, labor, Osha,  health insurance, liability insurance, worker compensation insurance, and  the constant threat of  law suits it just hard to make a business profitable. 

American's won't work in sweatshops,   Chinese are just  really happy to have a job.

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RE: Hobby king customer service - 5/30/2012 12:25 PM   
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Why is it cheaper to  manufacture and sell in China?         In the USA with the Government restrictions,  labor laws,  taxation, insurance,  and EPA restrictions, the cost of doing business in the US has  sky rocketed.    The cost of labor here is gotten out of hand with the unions.   Look at GM and AMR.  AMR is going broke because of  union demands.     

China has none of these  restrictions,  and EPA is unheard of there.     The Chinese labor force is happy with a  dollar a day in wages.  

The US  businesses can not compete with this.    With todays taxation,  labor restrictions, epa, insurance, labor, Osha,  health insurance, liability insurance, worker compensation insurance, and  the constant threat of  law suits it just hard to make a business profitable. 

American's won't work in sweatshops,   Chinese are just  really happy to have a job.

Frank



You bring note to the sad reality of this country now. RC guys bellyache and complain about HK and yet they go down to their local auto parts store and buy imported parts! Yep, that is certainly supporting local business, isn't it? I went into Advance Auto the other day and bought some bulbs and sure enough on the package the golden words, "Made in China." Ask yourself a question, why does Advance chose to buy from China and why aren't the bulbs made here in the USA now? That is the cost of doing business to make it profitable.

I have been a businessman for many years and I no longer choose to start a business in the USA. It totally sucks. I was in various businesses for most of my life and I am nearing the golden 60 year age mark and I for one am very discouraged in our US "system" now - especially the CLOWNS in the government. There are no incentatives, no tax breaks, nothing really at all, outrageous insurance, etc. The cost to do business is ginormous. What is it to influence me any longer to desire to have a business here? I have been there, done that, a number of times now.

I have commercial real estate and I choose to part with it as soon as someone will purchase it. Believe me, I am not the only one that thinks this way about business in the US now and I know many businessmen that are moving down the same paths. I spoke to a man last night that has been in business now for close to 40 years and he is totally over it!

In the community I live in about 50% (if not more) of the businesses are gone and the real estate for sale. The math is simple: Lower taxes and charges = thriving business, higher taxes and charges = dying business. Did any in the local community offer these businessmen any incentive or work with them to keep them going? NO, they did NOTHING...not even forego taxes for a season so guess what? They lost them.

The banks have taken government money and bought more banks instead of lending the funds out as they were requested to do....losers! That must make them proud bankers. A lot of hard working businessmen simply want out, they are tired of no one listening and doing anything, and they want to wash their hands of the crap they put up with in this country.

Man, I need to chill out....this is a sensitive subject



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RE: Hobby king customer service - 5/30/2012 2:14 PM  1 votes
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I totally agree with Frank and Luchnia. In the last 3 years the country is moving closer and closer to communistism than ever before. In all history communistism or socialism for that matter has never succeeded yet current lefties think finally they have the answer and this time it will succeed. To reward based on seniority rather than production is the foundation for failure, yet unions and government continue to follow that path to distruction. Unions are the father of mediocrity and failure. Todays government is akin to yesterdays slave owner, they will furnish what ever governments thinks you need, food, shelter and clothing and all you have to do is keep voting them into office. The public tit is adictive. The founding ideas of this country are in the past not the future. These are my opinions and if you don't like them, I have more!

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