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Finally got a real plane - 5/31/2012 3:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've asked questions about planes before and thought about getting one so I finally did after going to joe nall, I ordered a tower hobbies mk II trainer, an o.s .46 la, an airtronics 5ch radio, futaba servos and all the accessories I need. Does this sound like a good setup? And will it be much different to fly from a 3ch plane?

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RE: Finally got a real plane - 5/31/2012 3:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		It will be the same but different That should make a setup for you. I would suggest having somebody check it over for you and maybe even maiden it for you to be sure. I only say this because I don't know your skill level.

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RE: Finally got a real plane - 5/31/2012 3:25 PM   
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RE: Finally got a real plane - 5/31/2012 3:34 PM   
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I've asked questions about planes before and thought about getting one so I finally did after going to joe nall, I ordered a tower hobbies mk II trainer, an o.s .46 la, an airtronics 5ch radio, futaba servos and all the accessories I need. Does this sound like a good setup? And will it be much different to fly from a 3ch plane?


This is a good setup. You have four channels and a five channel radio so you're covered there. And, you have a good radio system. I would probably have suggested the RDS8000 Airtroncs, but what you have is just fine.

As far as being different from a 3 channel system, well, the added channel is the Aileron and, is probably, arguably, the best setup for a beginner.

Before flying it yourself, though, make sure you have someone with experience look it over to make sure your linkages are not binding and that you have them set up to move in the right direction. You don't, for instance, want to move the aileron stick to the right and have the plane bank to the left. For a beginner, that will defiinitely ruin your whole day.

So, as suggested, find a club and a qualified instructor to look it over and to maiden it for you. Then, see if he/she will work with you on the buddy box to get the primary abilities worked in ... taking off, flying, orbiting left and right, figure eights, and landings. Mixed in there somewhere you should also get some emergency procedures - what to do when the engine quits in flight.. dead-stick in other words, and how to get it safely to the ground.

Anyway, best of luck.. you made a good choice. Enjoy your RC'ing!!

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RE: Finally got a real plane - 5/31/2012 3:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		From my experience it will likely be easier to fly than a three channel . . . provided you start on low rates.  That's a solid set-up for a trainer system.

As others have mentioned - get a good instructor.  It will save hours of anguish and hundreds of dollars to have someone get you started down the road in the right direction and help smooth out the bumps.  Even having someone knowledgeble pre-flight and trim the model can save the model.  Reversed ailerons end more maiden flights suddenly and destructively than any other cause.  And a model that is badly out of trim is a handful for an expert pilot - especially on an unfamiliar plane.  MUCH better to learn on a model already trimmed out to fly properly.

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RE: Finally got a real plane - 5/31/2012 6:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the info guys, and I was planning on joining a club thats about 35 minutes away. I can fly a 3 channel pretty good, take off, landing, loops and just normal flight so I dont think ill have to much trouble flying it but we'll see lol. My engine will be here tomorrow, any tips on break in? As far as I know you just burn a tank on full throttle while its really rich?

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RE: Finally got a real plane - 5/31/2012 7:07 PM   
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RE: Finally got a real plane - 5/31/2012 7:13 PM   
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Best bet is to follow the owners manual.


lol what a silly thing to say. jk

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RE: Finally got a real plane - 5/31/2012 9:30 PM   
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RE: Finally got a real plane - 5/31/2012 9:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		I went from a 3 ch super cub to a Nexstar. The biggest difference was the speed and the much greater space that was needed to take off and land. A .46 trainer is slow for glow planes but is like flying a rocket if you are coming from an electric 3 ch.

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RE: Finally got a real plane - 6/1/2012 1:04 AM   
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I went from a 3 ch super cub to a Nexstar. The biggest difference was the speed and the much greater space that was needed to take off and land. A .46 trainer is slow for glow planes but is like flying a rocket if you are coming from an electric 3 ch.
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Probably a good thing I didnt get the mustang I was looking at lol.

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RE: Finally got a real plane - 6/1/2012 1:50 AM   
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Find the nearest club and join it.  Hook up with an instructor and buddy box with him.


You make it sound cheap and sleezy ... like friends with benefits.

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RE: Finally got a real plane - 6/1/2012 3:07 AM   
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RE: Finally got a real plane - 6/1/2012 3:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		Good set-up!!! Only concern I would have would be the Airtronics radio. Nothing wrong with the radio, just check with the instructers at your local club and see if anyone can buddy box to an Airtronics. I am not sure what is compatable. Find out what radios most instructers are using, that way you wont have any buddy box issues. If you have to exchange it, Tower would most likely take care of you

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RE: Finally got a real plane - 6/1/2012 4:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ok ill ask what they're using. And lets keep this pg guys lol.

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RE: Finally got a real plane - 6/1/2012 4:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Personally, I would keep the Airtronics Radio, although I agree, I would have gone with the RDS8000 too! It must be the SD5G, great radio, probably wont outgrow it for a long time!   You say that you already can fly a 3 ch plane fairly proficiently, T/O, Landings, Loops, etc.  If you can do that already with a 3 ch plane, You shouldn't have much problems flying the TT 40 MKII..  you can use the Pass the Tx method of training, have the instructor get you 3 - 4 mistakes high and have him give you the Tx, if you get into much trouble, pass the tx back to him, to recover..  that's how I learned with a Sig Kadet MKII (Very Similar to the TT 40 mkII) over 25 years ago.. 

otherwise, you have a great setup, enjoy it!

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RE: Finally got a real plane - 6/1/2012 4:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		T-Max97 - Your profile indicates that you are located in White, Ga. I am a member of the Dalton RC Fliers club in Dalton Ga. If you don't have anyone close by to check out the setup on the model, let me know and I'll get you directions to our field. Paulding County has a great group of folks also. Try to hook up with John Baxter, Mickey Walker, or Dan Dougherty. Any of these fine folks should be able to provide you some help.

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RE: Finally got a real plane - 6/1/2012 5:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes I live in White near Adairsville, I'm planning on joining the tail draggers club near euharlee because we're in that area often but thanks for the offer ill keep that in mind.

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RE: Finally got a real plane - 6/1/2012 5:55 AM   
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Personally, I would keep the Airtronics Radio, although I agree, I would have gone with the RDS8000 too! It must be the SD5G, great radio, probably wont outgrow it for a long time!   You say that you already can fly a 3 ch plane fairly proficiently, T/O, Landings, Loops, etc.  If you can do that already with a 3 ch plane, You shouldn't have much problems flying the TT 40 MKII..  you can use the Pass the Tx method of training, have the instructor get you 3 - 4 mistakes high and have him give you the Tx, if you get into much trouble, pass the tx back to him, to recover..  that's how I learned with a Sig Kadet MKII (Very Similar to the TT 40 mkII) over 25 years ago.. 

otherwise, you have a great setup, enjoy it!

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Yes it's the sd-5g, If they dont have a compatible radio I guess we'll do that. Thanks








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RE: Finally got a real plane - 6/1/2012 6:12 AM   
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RE: Finally got a real plane - 6/1/2012 8:31 AM   
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You make it sound cheap and sleezy ... like friends with benefits.


Bahahahahahahah!!!

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RE: Finally got a real plane - 6/1/2012 1:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		The hardest part of flying for me when I was getting started was that left and right are reversed when the plane is coming towards you. But since you already mastered that with the three channel, you are really doing good.

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RE: Finally got a real plane - 6/1/2012 3:18 PM   
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The hardest part of flying for me when I was getting started was that left and right are reversed when the plane is coming towards you. But since you already mastered that with the three channel, you are really doing good.



I had that problem a little at first with the 3 channel but I've had rc cars and trucks for years so that helped. My engine and a few other things will be here today. Whats the best brand of nitro for planes?

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RE: Finally got a real plane - 6/1/2012 5:08 PM   
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Unless thaings have changed Futaba servos are different than Airtronics radios in thre important ways:
1. The connector is different and doesn't fit unless you trim the tab off the side.
2. The wiring order is different and doesn't work - you have to reverse 2 wires but i can't remember which 2.
3.  Airtronics servos have a 100 degree full travel - Futaba only have 90 degrees.

I use Hitec servos with Airtronics connectors unless I really want that extra servo travel.



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RE: Finally got a real plane - 6/1/2012 6:00 PM   
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Don't know who refines the nitro itself, but I like the S&W and Omega Cool Power methanol glow fuel with 10% and 15% nitromethane content in it, respectively.  The S&W has more castor oil than nitro in a gallon, but the Cool Power is synthetic (I only get that when I can't find S&W at the LHS).

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