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ORIGINAL: Ali

Fender,
I hear you, and understand where you are coming from. I am so lucky with my work, and what I do. I try and make the most of my fortunate position within the industry and exploit it to satisfy my love of RC. So to this extent I try and play with as many aspects of RC as possible. I find that the higher up the RC ladder as it were ( and by higher up, I mean further away from grass roots club flying, and I see this most in competition type flying) you travel, the more elitist and clicky things become. When I first started doing jets in around 2000 it was a hell of allot worse. In the Uk the jet scene was considerably smaller, thus harder to break into, and I was much founder than I am now ( 24 to be precise ) The Uk jet scene at the time seemed almost like a private club that you had to be accepted into and invited into. It was not much better when I started to travel to the US either. I will always remember my first jet meet overseas, and that was Florida Jets 2002.. WOW! That was hard work.
Things have changed allot since then, but I can still see how some from the outside may perceive it to be this way. However. The more I see jets become readily available, and tricking through to ''club level'' Rc the more I see this changing, and one may it continue I say.
As to why... I think there are many reasons. Yes. I guess cost has something to do with it. I have always had a love for cars, and to my shame, have been a member of a few different owners clubs over the years. Right from my first cars that were VW Beetles, and even a Peugeot. The last owners club I was a member of was when I owned my first Porsche some years ago. It was then that I ran into the snobbery, and attitude that just because the members owned a more expensive car, they were somehow better than those who's vehicle had less commercial value. I didnt really fit the mold ( fairly young for a Porsche owner at the time, more interested in driving the car than cleaning it etc etc) So soon left the club. Ever since then, I have steered clear of owners clubs. Sure I met some great guys along the way, who were more down to earth, but it seemed like the other type were far happier to make themselves heard, and known to other members of the club, and that put me off. I see a level of this in the RJ jet scene. Especially when it comes to passing on advice and opinions. I read some things on here where the people writing them almost preach, rather than advise....Which makes my toes curl.
I could write about this for hours, but I won't as I have some flying to do, and the weather here is stunning. Before I go, I have to throw in the fact that I am 99% sure that the PC and Forums distort ones view greatly. My experience has been that people can be two completely different entities when taken away from their means of communicating via a forum. The PC Pilot thing changes some people persona's so much, that they become this Jekyll and Hyde type deal, where when they are behind a keyboard they are a totally different person than when you meet them face to face. True, some I have met are still Aholes when you meet them face to face, but most are quite the opposite of what they seem to be when I read their posts on a forum.
The negativity thing..... I just think that comes from many peoples lack of desire to accept new things, as well as the fact that bad news seems to spread so much quicker than good. So its much easier to flame than it is to praise.
I have found that its best to try and not sweat it. Find a group of people that you get on with, and stick with them. There will always be haters out there ( don't I know it ) who are just waiting for you to fail, or get something wrong. Don't worry about these guys, in-fact I have found that the more that they see you enjoying this great hobby, and having fun.. the more it beats them up inside. Go grab your Tx, get to the field and hang with the guys you know you get on with, fly for yourself and no one else. As long as you can answer to yourself that you are having fun ( because after all, for 99% of people in this hobby, thats all there is to be gained from it ) As well as being as safe as you can whist doing it. Then thats all that counts.

Regards Al

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ORIGINAL: Ruizmilton

There are very experienced people on this forum who can contribute a lot to the growth of the newcomers, and as time goes by, there is less and less contributions on their part, I feel that's because some of the newbies use the forum as their ''facebook'' and post everything they do and comes to mind during the day that has no relevance to the continuous development of the forum, you do not see the experts who can teach us do this!, that's not what the forum is for and I believe may be the reason for less and less postings from those we can learn a lot from, it may be becoming the environment they do not want to be a part of.

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ORIGINAL: Ruizmilton

The know-it-all, who just read a few pages of literature (some don't even do that) and assumes knows everything there is to know, does not listen and tries to establish a debate with the true experts who also take this hobby very seriously.

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ORIGINAL: flycatch

So, what's your excuse for being here?

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ORIGINAL: jpjamie

Jet turbine RC hobbyist are a distinguished class of hobbyist.

If a hobby is something interesting and fun to do in your free time, then jet turbines make it obvious some have money AND time for very interesting things.
Like the surgeon who goes golfing every afternoon after ''toiling'' in the OR ( his residents open and close for him). The very fact he's regularly golfing in the afternoon makes a strong social/status statement. Regularly hauling your glossy jet turbine to the field in your trailer every afternoon has the same effect. Not only do jet turbine jockeys have the money, they risk ALL and fix ALL in the event of a technical failure, possibly unrelated to flying skill.

What really cuts to the quick is having the luxury of time to learn, network and build beautiful jet turbine powered model aircraft while you are young.

While some of us can work overtime to get money, we would never have the time or money to fix it ALL, even when retired.

Therein lies the true breeding of all the smoldering contempt.