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RE: Southern R/C bootlegger plan - 1/12/2013 10:04 PM   
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RE: Southern R/C bootlegger plan - 1/12/2013 11:53 PM   
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RE: Southern R/C bootlegger plan - 1/13/2013 12:03 AM   
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RE: Southern R/C bootlegger plan - 1/13/2013 12:49 AM   
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RE: Southern R/C bootlegger plan - 1/13/2013 2:16 AM   
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RE: Southern R/C bootlegger plan - 1/13/2013 3:23 AM   
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Ooops!

Just went out for dinner and came back to pick up the latest...

It looks like I have once again failed in my etiquette. A few more hours with Mr. Carson will be in order to not disgrace my livery!

Bryan, it wasn't my intention to upset you. I was thinking we might be making progress toward more diplomatic exchanges but it appears not. I tend to speak my mind not because "my method is better" but just because that's the way I was brought up. I do think you're doing a nice job on this but I just felt that the constant LE/TE thing was not up my alley - nothing to do with so called building prowess. I just don't think it makes much difference when one is building. But we all have our perspective in things and my view is neither here nor there. If anything, I would more than welcome input from people like Dave Phillips who has plenty more experience than I do. This is the reason I was asking so many questions, to get his and other experienced folks' opinion.

In any case, I say carry on. If you dont want me to post on your thread, it's not a problem. Just let me know and I won't. With that said, I feel that you might be getting a little too unnecessarily bent out of shape on small matters. It appears that Dave might share this opinion as well.

Can we all relax and just express an occasional difference of opinion without everything falling to pieces? We're all upstanding citizens I'm sure!

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RE: Southern R/C bootlegger plan - 1/13/2013 5:19 AM   
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RE: Southern R/C bootlegger plan - 1/13/2013 6:07 AM   
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I am Tim Whitley and you shared with me 2 of the canopy tops for Bootlegger. I am happy to have them and the 30 dollars each was a fair price for the work/material cost. I hope you will continue helping fellow builders hope to start compulegger soon.

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RE: Southern R/C bootlegger plan - 1/13/2013 1:57 PM   
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RE: Southern R/C bootlegger plan - 1/13/2013 11:53 PM   
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RE: Southern R/C bootlegger plan - 1/14/2013 12:15 AM   
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RE: Southern R/C bootlegger plan - 1/14/2013 12:18 AM   
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I came on here to read about an old favorite plane not childish behavior once again so I recall why I stopped flying pattern years ago.

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RE: Southern R/C bootlegger plan - 1/15/2013 6:46 AM   
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Heck Ron,
I'm as shocked as anyone. I went on a week of classic car stuff, Saturday to the AMA Convention, the usual Sunday stuff (not including afternoon flying because it's so cold here), and a buddy says RCU's blowing up!
Oh well, I bought a MIB DMECO kit of the Perigee at the Convention for a smoking price and I'm singing Kumbaya.
Peace and Love, everyone.
Chris...


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RE: Southern R/C bootlegger plan - 1/18/2013 3:33 PM   
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and so designs evolve... I also wonder why the Bootlegger, Compensator & Deception all share a very similar, if not identical, airfoil. Did Kimbro share this airfoil with them? I believe his design came before the others if memory serves (~1979?). Maybe Kimbro could share some light on the subject if he happens to check in.




Actually, the Compensator preceded the Deception. In his construction article Jim Kimbro stated that he adopted the Compensator airfoil for the Deception because he liked its flying characteristics. He also discussed his decision to alter the wing planform by sweeping the leading edge back more then the trailing edge is swept forward in order to improve the balance between looping and rolling maneuvers. As far as the Bootlegger is concerned, Steve Helms lived in Pensacola at the time and flew frequently with the pattern fliers in the Florida panhandle region. Rhett Miller (designer of the Compensator) was a protege of Jim Kirkland's (Kirkland lived in the Fort Walton area and Miller in Tallahassee) so Rhett often practiced at fields in the Fort Walton area. So it is not a surprise to see design influences in models that came from that area. There was a lot of pattern activity in the stretch between Pensacola and Tallahassee back then.

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