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Clark electronics TK20 - 6/30/2012 9:48 PM   
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just to let you all now about a new board on the market

http://www.clark-model.com/eng/index_e.html

its plug and play just remove the RX18 add your aftermarket Receiver/Transmitter and a few mods and your set to go

ive just got me one and the sounds are 100% better than H/long
sounds are set to the board for the moment
tamiya recoil mechanism can be added and also servo style re-coil
the battle system mimics Tamiya's also the nasty H/long recoil is gone

some pictures of mine next to the Rx18





no other board is needed although a Tamiya battle apple is
and also a better speaker is required instead of the H/long one

he also does a H/long version which keeps the airsoft system if required


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RE: Clark electronics TK20 - 6/30/2012 10:49 PM   
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RE: Clark electronics TK20 - 7/1/2012 2:08 AM   
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RE: Clark electronics TK20 - 7/1/2012 2:25 AM   
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RE: Clark electronics TK20 - 7/1/2012 3:50 AM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ab61W1eAsgM



Ordering Information comparison

Part Number
Application

TK-18-T
-Support TAMIYA IR battle,

-Support Heng Leng RC system,

-Direct replacement of HL TK-18.

TK-18-H
-Support Heng Leng IR battle,

-Support Heng Leng RC system,

-Direct replacement of HL TK-18.

TK-20-T
-2-Cell Li-Polymer or 6 Cell NI-CD operation for best performance,

-Support TAMIYA RC tank IR battle,

-For , and 2.4G RC system

-4-CH control mode.

-Support TAMIYA Recoil unit,

TK-20-H
-2-Cell Li-Polymer or 6 Cell NI-CD operation for best performance,

-Support Heng-Long RC tank IR battle,

-For , and 2.4G RC system

-4-CHcontrol mode,

-Support TAMIYA Recoil unit.




4-CH Control Mode and operation

Start and Stop Engine
Cannon elevation
Booming Cannon
Fire MG
Head light control on and off
Tank move forward and backward
Right and Left turn
Turret rotation


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RE: Clark electronics TK20 - 7/1/2012 5:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		That is all good info, but how much. This seems in direct competition with an SLU so I would like to see a cost comparison.

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RE: Clark electronics TK20 - 7/1/2012 5:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		my prediction is this hobbly and products available to it will explode over the next 12 to 24 months. As a consumer of 1/16 scale product I am very excited about the things on drawing baords I have seen and discussed.

This is one example, this board really does look like a copy of the RX18 though but does offer some interesting things.
A you tube video is not quite the same as a full review though.



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RE: Clark electronics TK20 - 7/1/2012 5:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		This very exciting news, but after looking at the instructions, for converting your HL tank to this new Clark system, it is not really plug and play. One still needs to disconnect several wires from there connectors and solder and or connect these wires to new connectors. Also have to build your own Tamiya Apple plug. This may be a simple task for some but not all. Still it is great to have another compatible control system that may work with Tamiya. Would be nice to know the price of the unit as well.

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RE: Clark electronics TK20 - 7/1/2012 5:27 PM   
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RE: Clark electronics TK20 - 7/1/2012 5:39 PM   
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my prediction is this hobbly and products available to it will explode over the next 12 to 24 months.


I fully agree. It'll be 'run or get out of the way' as things get decoded and cheaper. With the wealth of info at our fingertips, opportunities arise wherever there's a need.

If an electronically challenged dope like myself with a multi-meter can adapt existing boards to do different things, imagine what an electrical engineer could do. Or even just a hobbyist with the right gear.

I'm not in anyway putting Tamiya down by this, but they pretty much dictate the market as 'the standard' and RC tanks is a tiny tiny part of their picture. Tamiya-san is a great businessman, but a static modeler at heart.

I wish the RC tank hobby was driven by tank first interests, such as El Mod, that way we'd by leading with innovation, not just adaptation. In my mind, there's no reason why we shouldn't be battling with directional armor and damage, or repair tanks like the IBU offers. We don't because the Tamiya apple is what clubs want to see and adopt as 'the standard'.


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RE: Clark electronics TK20 - 7/1/2012 5:54 PM   
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This very exciting news, but after looking at the instructions, for converting your HL tank to this new Clark system, it is not really plug and play. One still needs to disconnect several wires from there connectors and solder and or connect these wires to new connectors. Also have to build your own Tamiya Apple plug. This may be a simple task for some but not all. Still it is great to have another compatible control system that may work with Tamiya. Would be nice to know the price of the unit as well.


Clark shows a "How-to" build your own apple base a tamiya one would work just as well lmao

the other plugs are fairly simple to modify and im sure if you are able to undo a H/long tank and re-install all the cables that usually break free from there pads then you should be able to do that also



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RE: Clark electronics TK20 - 7/1/2012 8:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		AFV as you know the board can you do a review and post it here?
radios supported are the futuba and JR systems, what about other brands?
movement inertia? what about hits? does the board have support for weight classes? Loading times?
I went on the website and it is vague other than saying the word "compatible"




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RE: Clark electronics TK20 - 7/1/2012 9:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		i sure will Freakydude

im not an agent For clark but i love what the guy does and have been praying that he will get more involved in this 1/16th scale

i had a little in the development of it but that was just 6 months of e-mails and letting him know just what most of us really want

a system that is better than H/long sounds this is very close to Tamiya in the sound department and something clark specialises in

Tamiya battle system compatible now his boards are Tamiya and h/long battle system compatible

i havent gotten that far with mine yet as ive had other "honey-do-list commitments" to seriouslly sit down and play with it







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RE: Clark electronics TK20 - 7/2/2012 2:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		HI I have a Hen long tiger 1 no sound or smoke which application would work for me. THANKS


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RE: Clark electronics TK20 - 7/2/2012 3:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		I agree AVF432, there is a how-to, just not truly plug and play for the entry level tanker trying to get into this hobby for the first time. I am not knocking this product or trying to say this is a bad product. I think it is a great addition for those of us who have been doing this sort of conversion. The price sounds great as well. For just roughly $52 dollars U.S. one can have a Tamiya compatible HL tank. Very cool stuff !!!!

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RE: Clark electronics TK20 - 7/2/2012 3:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		There are a lot of ready to fly and ready to run models out using 2.4 Ghz radios.  I don't understand why HL does not change their radios - or list an extra cost board to replace the 18 that would allow us to plug in 2.4 Ghz sport radios.  I would gladly spend $40 + dollars to outfit each of my HLs even without better sound.  The Clark system sounds interesting.  Hope someone imports them in to North America. jot from the stepps of Wyoming with battlefield smoke available statewide.     

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RE: Clark electronics TK20 - 7/2/2012 7:00 AM   
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There are a lot of ready to fly and ready to run models out using 2.4 Ghz radios.  I don't understand why HL does not change their radios - or list an extra cost board to replace the 18 that would allow us to plug in 2.4 Ghz sport radios.  I would gladly spend $40 + dollars to outfit each of my HLs even without better sound.  The Clark system sounds interesting.  Hope someone imports them in to North America. jot from the stepps of Wyoming with battlefield smoke available statewide.     

Heng Long is redoing their radios. We may find something like this will be offered in a stock Heng Long.

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RE: Clark electronics TK20 - 7/2/2012 7:46 AM   
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RE: Clark electronics TK20 - 7/2/2012 2:41 PM   
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I was told that the upcoming 2.4 ghz kits won't come from HL inside their tanks, but will be available as aftermarket kits to replace the RX18, more or less as Clark's offer.



An explosion of electonic upgrades on the market for HL tanks. We will have a wide varity of choices now. El Mod, Benedini and Beier are still the only ones offering programmablae sounds, but it looks like Clark has a system on the drawing board that will use programmable wav files as well.

I wonder if Heng Long ever imagined that their Toy tanks would spur such an aftermarket of upgrade parts. First it was better mechanical parts, and now electronic parts.

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RE: Clark electronics TK20 - 7/2/2012 4:39 PM   
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I wonder if Heng Long ever imagined that their Toy tanks were spur such an aftermarket of upgrade parts. First it was better mechanical parts, and now electronic parts.



Now if only Tristar, Eduard or even DML would see an opening for more 1/16 static offerings. I'm really surprised we haven't seen a 35t chassis. Think of all the kits that could be built off that hull: Marders, Hetzers...

Or the Pz I and Pz II.

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RE: Clark electronics TK20 - 7/2/2012 9:10 PM   
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I wonder if Heng Long ever imagined that their Toy tanks were spur such an aftermarket of upgrade parts. First it was better mechanical parts, and now electronic parts.



Now if only Tristar, Eduard or even DML would see an opening for more 1/16 static offerings. I'm really surprised we haven't seen a 35t chassis. Think of all the kits that could be built off that hull: Marders, Hetzers...

Or the Pz I and Pz II.


Here Here guys the more options the better



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RE: Clark electronics TK20 - 7/2/2012 11:31 PM   
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RE: Clark electronics TK20 - 7/2/2012 11:53 PM   
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so lets see we have true plug and play all the way to complete swap outs.  The electronics are improving and we are not stuck using tamiya any more.

wonder what is going to be next hmmm    what do yall think?  New programming? New Tanks? New extras for sale?

All this and the price is moving down, not up.  Wonder how long that can last??


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I was told that the upcoming 2.4 ghz kits won't come from HL inside their tanks, but will be available as aftermarket kits to replace the RX18, more or less as Clark's offer.




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RE: Clark electronics TK20 - 7/3/2012 1:07 AM   
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Hi Rob, this sounds like a good solution for my Abrams. Do you know if it will have abrams sounds?


Leo 2a6 and abrams are on the list mate



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RE: Clark electronics TK20 - 7/3/2012 2:33 AM   
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