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Hobby King turbine! - 6/30/2012 11:49 PM   
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Just seen this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0kGJjaj-MA&feature=em-uploademail

Have to keep an eye on this!

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RE: Hobby King turbine! - 7/1/2012 12:55 AM   
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Have to keep an eye on two things.

The price - Kingtech have lowered the bar for a reliable turbine that works fine out of the box.

Service - I'm sure this won't be so cheap that they can continue their current service policy of NO service.

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RE: Hobby King turbine! - 7/1/2012 1:54 AM   
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I like the Cat !!!!!!!


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RE: Hobby King turbine! - 7/1/2012 2:20 AM   
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Smaller size than I thought.May be it's a 6 kg. turbine.

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RE: Hobby King turbine! - 7/1/2012 3:30 AM   
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Have to keep an eye on two things.

The price - Kingtech have lowered the bar for a reliable turbine that works fine out of the box.

Service - I'm sure this won't be so cheap that they can continue their current service policy of NO service.

John.

PLUS ONE, BIG TIME.

I am sure a flamer will log on soon enuff to say "HK is awesome and their detractors are full of it", but there are plenty of us who've been repeatedly burned by HK.

If someone buys a turbine from them then they should consider it both disposable and a safety hazard.

Flame away, HK fans.

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RE: Hobby King turbine! - 7/1/2012 4:02 AM   
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Good luck with the HK service. I have purchased a number items from HK, edf planes, prop planes, and motors. I have only receive two items, both escs, that worked perfectly out of the box. Everything else had damaged, and took it HK a minimum of one month to address the one issue that was finally resolved. Maybe their turbine will be fine, but do you really want to take a chance on the service/support provided for the engine. DO YOU FEEL THAT LUCKY! If so, maybe you can suggest some winning lottery number, LOL.

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RE: Hobby King turbine! - 7/1/2012 4:37 AM   
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Maybe their turbine will be fine, but do you really want to take a chance on the service/support provided for the engine. DO YOU FEEL THAT LUCKY! If so, maybe you can suggest some winning lottery number, LOL.



Was that 6 shots or just 5...... Do you feel lucky... PUNK !!!!!! - " I got-sta know !!!! "



I'll pass, I don't need any part of that operation !!!


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RE: Hobby King turbine! - 7/1/2012 4:44 AM   
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I have 80+ orders from Hobbyking and only a motor that doesn't worked so far...
But... I don't know if I will pull the trigger on a HK turbine...

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RE: Hobby King turbine! - 7/1/2012 4:52 AM   
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This hits the market, before long, goes our privilege for turbine flying

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RE: Hobby King turbine! - 7/1/2012 4:54 AM   
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Kind of looks like it could be based on the Jetcat P60.

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RE: Hobby King turbine! - 7/1/2012 6:06 AM   
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This hits the market, before long, goes our privilege for turbine flying

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RE: Hobby King turbine! - 7/1/2012 6:18 AM   
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can't you imaging the consequence of masssively distributed cheap and unreliable turbine engines, with no support

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This hits the market, before long, goes our privilege for turbine flying

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RE: Hobby King turbine! - 7/1/2012 8:23 AM   
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can't you imaging the consequence of masssively distributed cheap and unreliable turbine engines, with no support

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This hits the market, before long, goes our privilege for turbine flying

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I can agree with the cheap but how do you know that it will be unreliable  and without  support? lets not bash until it has been tried and tested.



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RE: Hobby King turbine! - 7/1/2012 8:48 AM   
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...pay cheap=pay double,and in case of turbines pay with injury too..good luck to all the test dummies out there

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RE: Hobby King turbine! - 7/1/2012 10:04 AM   
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I think HK have done a smart thing by sending it to the RCModelReviews chap. Based on all his other work we can be fairly sure he'll give an unbiased view of the unit and what it can do. Think I read he's a first time turbine user but he's a superb engineer. Price will dictate how well these sell. Looks to me like it would fit in a large 90mm/120mm EDF jet.

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RE: Hobby King turbine! - 7/1/2012 11:09 AM   
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When will this be available?

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RE: Hobby King turbine! - 7/1/2012 12:10 PM   
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I fly JetCat and JetJoe (yes, the chines one...)
About the JetCat, nothing to say, PERFECT!
But with the JJ I had some problems at the start (JJ1800) but the service was the best I have seen ever, so after some time (and changing the turbine twice) I got JJ300 that works flawlessly.
I'm sure that HK are doing the home work to send out to the market a well tested turbine.
I'm also sure it will be reliable and again, many modelers will have the opportunity to have a JET.
About the service, I don't know, never need it from them...
I'll not be the first, but if it's as I think, I sure to buy one in the future.

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RE: Hobby King turbine! - 7/1/2012 2:40 PM   
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servis and back from hk thats got to be the best joke of this centry

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RE: Hobby King turbine! - 7/1/2012 2:49 PM   
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I have 80+ orders from Hobbyking and only a motor that doesn't worked so far...
But... I don't know if I will pull the trigger on a HK turbine...



I have a googalplex of orders from Hobby King and every time I open the box Beams of light come out and I hear angels singing and the sun comes out, even at night.

Now to get real, who cares how many orders you have from anyone? I mean really? We are talking about a turbine engine here and a company with a less than poor track record for quality and customer service.

As far as I can see the only people who will buy these motors are the ones who shouldn't even have one. And no liability when they get hurt.

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RE: Hobby King turbine! - 7/1/2012 3:04 PM   
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If they end up that bad, can they be banned in the U.S. ??? ( AMA, FAA, Big Brother ) ??? If there is a safety issue, I promise you every ambulance chasing Attorney in the U.S. will be buying stock in H.K. !!!!



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RE: Hobby King turbine! - 7/1/2012 3:18 PM   
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 So you all know so much before you have even see it run. Looks an interesting size

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RE: Hobby King turbine! - 7/1/2012 3:57 PM   
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If it wasn't for HK I would never have progressed to the point that I could fly a turbine in the first place. They offered batteries and components that were affordable and showed just how much the American companies where laughing all the way to the bank. I've had a number of orders that were great and a few that were questionable but smashing everything about HK shows ignorance. Our entire club (60+ people) use HK items often without problems and we save a considerable amount of money by doing so. Last time I checked planes arn't falling out of the sky nor are the batteries exploding after two flights bla bla.

Thier customer service is terrible but writing off product A or B without seeing proper reviews etc is just close minded. HK needs to drastically increase thier customer service and I really can't deny that but other companies like FEJ get a pass on being outright crap companies, so why is this different? There is no reason that HK couldn't shift focus towards customer service just like FEJ has been trying to improve thier terrible product line.

You guys go ahead and keep up your fear mongering. Let the rest of us "stupid and undeserved to have a turbine" people keep our minds open to new possibilities. I've flown turbines from Jetcat/Kingtech etc etc and I'm sure at some point this will be something I test as well.







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RE: Hobby King turbine! - 7/1/2012 4:25 PM   
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With all the bashing going on here, I thought i was at a UFC fight.

With all new products coming to market, I am sure there is going to be some issues. It is what HK does with customer feedback and concerns that will make it or brake it.
I remember seeing a king tech rep having hot starts with his new 170 every time he started it. So i dont Expect HK turbine to be perfect out of the box either.
One thing i know HK lacks in is quality instructions or the lack of instructions at all. When bruce pulled out all the packaging, I dont think i saw any paper work.
Dont think anyone will have much success without proper instructions, especially with radio setup.

I will wait and see how this all shakes out before i make an opinion either way.
I do know one thing, I will never buy one of their turbines unless there is a US service center. It makes no sense to waist all the time and money in shipping for repairs

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RE: Hobby King turbine! - 7/1/2012 4:53 PM   
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With all the bashing going on here, I thought i was at a UFC fight.

With all new products coming to market, I am sure there is going to be some issues. It is what HK does with customer feedback and concerns that will make it or brake it.
I remember seeing a king tech rep having hot starts with his new 170 every time he started it. So i dont Expect HK turbine to be perfect out of the box either.
One thing i know HK lacks in is quality instructions or the lack of instructions at all. When bruce pulled out all the packaging, I dont think i saw any paper work.
Dont think anyone will have much success without proper instructions, especially with radio setup.

I will wait and see how this all shakes out before i make an opinion either way.
I do know one thing, I will never buy one of their turbines unless there is a US service center. It makes no sense to waist all the time and money in shipping for repairs

Bob


Hi Bob, I think I am the only KingTech rep with K-170 hot starts when it first came out, and that's because I run nothing but Diesel, which is potentially challenging. #266 K-170F now starts flawlessly even with Diesel, with only spirally blue flame at most. I don't know who you are, but if you are local, I'd be happy to demonstrate, also if it wasn't me and my F-22, let me know, I think we need to give him a hand : )

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RE: Hobby King turbine! - 7/1/2012 5:13 PM   
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Im not sure how much experience one has had with HK motors and batts is they consider them crappy. I have tested the $60 65C Thunderpower batts along with the $20 nanotech batts from HK, sorry guys, the HK batt at 1/3 the price produces more power and runs cooler. But the TP can be charge at 12C .....not with my charger.
As far as their receivers, I have 15 of the $6 Orange receivers, I use them in EDF's, park fliers, and 40 size glow planes and have NEVER had a single issue with a radio link. On the other hand, I have had total lockouts on 3 of the 4 Spektrum 6 channels receiver I own . So, I think they are capable of making a good product, sometimes better, and a reduced price. However, I gererally deal with items from them under $100. I have probably 60 of their batts and just recently got a bad one. I knew, I probably wouldnt gain anything by trying to return it so I just accept that $15 loss. However, with their current support and customer service, I would not at this point be willing to hand over $700-$1000 for a product from them. They may make a good tubine but what about the downtime and cost of trying to get a problem corrected? I have had a leaking fuel pump on a Jet Cetral Turbine and had a new one at my door the next day after i contacted Eric. THat to me make the difference in how I will spend my money for higher cost rc products. Do you think HK is going to answer the phone and talk you thru changes in your turbine settings? If their service and communication doesnt improve, new turbine buyers may become frustrated and spend little time flying.

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