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RE: Windshield washerpump ? - 8/3/2012 10:54 PM   
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RE: Windshield washerpump ? - 8/4/2012 12:26 AM   
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RE: Windshield washerpump ? - 8/4/2012 1:02 AM   
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Has anyone tried the Sig Gas Passer? It runs on 12 volts, pumps both ways and is compatible with gasoline,glow fuel, kerosene, smoke oil, and water. I have one and it has given no trouble.

It can be seen at the bottom of this web page http://www.centralhobbies.com/fuel/flpmp.htm


Ahhh, the one above it is the exact same thing for $33 while the SIG pump is $45.

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RE: Windshield washerpump ? - 8/4/2012 1:06 AM   
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I purchased my Hobbico top Fueler 16 years ago & it has never let me down.

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RE: Windshield washerpump ? - 8/4/2012 2:10 AM   
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RE: Windshield washerpump ? - 8/4/2012 2:27 AM   
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RE: Windshield washerpump ? - 8/4/2012 3:01 AM   
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I had gotten a Hobbico deluxe flight box that came with a MK II electric pump. The whole setup was like new and barely used. The MK II lasted about 5-7 gallons before the motor got weak. The pump itself still works but the motor is junk. Bought a MK III and got 4-5 gallons through it and still working great, with zero leaks. I also use mainly castor in my fuel so the fuel is pretty thick. If it ever craps out, I'd be open to trying a WW pump myself.



Well, I have about 60 gallons through my MK II pump W/no issues.

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RE: Windshield washerpump ? - 8/4/2012 3:21 AM   
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RE: Windshield washerpump ? - 8/4/2012 3:29 AM   
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Status: online 		Hey, Michaelj2k,  I have that very same Sonic-tronics MarkX Fuel pump..  I got it when I first go into flying back in the early '80s, still using it..  It takes a little more time to prime than it used to, but it still works..  I believe that I have gotten my moneys worth out of it, and it's still going strong..   Hmmm, I wonder if its the Energizer Bunny of fuel pumps?? 

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RE: Windshield washerpump ? - 8/4/2012 3:29 AM   
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I had gotten a Hobbico deluxe flight box that came with a MK II electric pump. The whole setup was like new and barely used. The MK II lasted about 5-7 gallons before the motor got weak. The pump itself still works but the motor is junk. Bought a MK III and got 4-5 gallons through it and still working great, with zero leaks. I also use mainly castor in my fuel so the fuel is pretty thick. If it ever craps out, I'd be open to trying a WW pump myself.



Well, I have about 60 gallons through my MK II pump W/no issues.

My MK II pump still works and doesn't leak, it's the electric motor that crapped out. It will run for a few seconds and slow way down and stop. Battery is in good condition and fully charged, doesn't matter. The MK III works on the same system perfectly. I tried finding a 12v motor small enough but could t find one locally, and for the price, a new pump was cheaper anyway. I have no idea how old my II is. Probably just a fluke.


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RE: Windshield washerpump ? - 8/4/2012 4:44 AM   
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I had gotten a Hobbico deluxe flight box that came with a MK II electric pump. The whole setup was like new and barely used. The MK II lasted about 5-7 gallons before the motor got weak. The pump itself still works but the motor is junk. Bought a MK III and got 4-5 gallons through it and still working great, with zero leaks. I also use mainly castor in my fuel so the fuel is pretty thick. If it ever craps out, I'd be open to trying a WW pump myself.



Well, I have about 60 gallons through my MK II pump W/no issues.

My MK II pump still works and doesn't leak, it's the electric motor that crapped out. It will run for a few seconds and slow way down and stop. Battery is in good condition and fully charged, doesn't matter. The MK III works on the same system perfectly. I tried finding a 12v motor small enough but could t find one locally, and for the price, a new pump was cheaper anyway. I have no idea how old my II is. Probably just a fluke.



Sounds like it's sucking something shut. Does it act the same when draining the tank? Maybe it's plugged up internally?

Try switching the hoses/direction switch & see what that does.

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RE: Windshield washerpump ? - 8/4/2012 11:23 AM   
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Sounds like it's sucking something shut. Does it act the same when draining the tank? Maybe it's plugged up internally?

Try switching the hoses/direction switch & see what that does.

Been there and done that. If I put the shaft of the pump in a drill, It will pump fuel to the moon just about. Hook the electric pump motor back up and it might squirt a a little fuel, but stops quickly. . Pull the electric motor from new pump and install in old pump, works perfect. Old motor in new pump, no worky.

Trust me, the motor is just tired. I'm saving the old pump in case something else I take apart has a motor small enough to fit the case. Both pump mechanisms feel the same, the new one slightly stiffer to turn than the old one.

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RE: Windshield washerpump ? - 8/4/2012 3:48 PM   
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RE: Windshield washerpump ? - 8/4/2012 9:30 PM   
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RE: Windshield washerpump ? - 8/4/2012 9:57 PM   
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Been there and done that. If I put the shaft of the pump in a drill, It will pump fuel to the moon just about. Hook the electric pump motor back up and it might squirt a a little fuel, but stops quickly. . Pull the electric motor from new pump and install in old pump, works perfect. Old motor in new pump, no worky.

Trust me, the motor is just tired. I'm saving the old pump in case something else I take apart has a motor small enough to fit the case. Both pump mechanisms feel the same, the new one slightly stiffer to turn than the old one.



Aha, so it sounds like the MK II & the MK III are indeed (basically) the same pump dressed up for different centuries.

I might just get a MK II to have on hand in case my 16 year old MK II finally bites the dust.

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RE: Windshield washerpump ? - 8/4/2012 11:55 PM   
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I use the Boxxer pump and has always worked great but is now taking about twice as long to fill my planes. Went to find the rebuild kit but apparently they're not available. Might have to try the MKIII.

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Have you tried contacting Slimline directly? You should be able to purchae a rebuild kit directly from them. My Slimline SL-2000 pump is the best pump I have ever owned. Since it's a peristaltic pump so it's self-priming and your fuel never leaves the fuel tubing as it does with a geared pump. My pump must be about 10 years old and I only used a rebuild kit once. It was a done as a precautionary measure about three years ago, not because the tubing in the pump had failed. 

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RE: Windshield washerpump ? - 8/5/2012 12:03 AM   
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RE: Windshield washerpump ? - 8/5/2012 12:13 AM   
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Been there and done that. If I put the shaft of the pump in a drill, It will pump fuel to the moon just about. Hook the electric pump motor back up and it might squirt a a little fuel, but stops quickly. . Pull the electric motor from new pump and install in old pump, works perfect. Old motor in new pump, no worky.

Trust me, the motor is just tired. I'm saving the old pump in case something else I take apart has a motor small enough to fit the case. Both pump mechanisms feel the same, the new one slightly stiffer to turn than the old one.



Aha, so it sounds like the MK II & the MK III are indeed (basically) the same pump dressed up for different centuries.

I might just get a MK II to have on hand in case my 16 year old MK II finally bites the dust.

They are essentially the same thing internally. The two are set up slightly different inside, but the pump mechanism itself is the same. Looks identical. The MK III looks to have a slightly larger motor in it, IIRC. Its been awhile since I had it apart though.



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RE: Windshield washerpump ? - 8/5/2012 12:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		I tried a snowmobile primer bulb and it worked but was kind of slow, tried a couple of swap meet electric pumps that were in a box with other things and they didn't work at all. I am not willing to buy a new one if that is what to expect.  Now I just use a big rubber bulb like 40 years ago.  I will keep my eyes on this thread though because the rubber is starting to crack and I always wanted to try a WW pump myself. A big syringe works good for bladders.  I have heard the big detergent jugs with pumps work ok too.  Never tried one because I don't hink they would seal good enough to keep the fuel fresh.

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RE: Windshield washerpump ? - 8/5/2012 2:04 AM   
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Slimline appears to be in limbo. My LHS cannot order from them, and said they were changing to direct internet sales only.  the Slimline website is structured as an online retailer except that it is "under construction". I sure hope they can make this work because Slimline pumps and fuel systems are top quality. 


Sometimes you need to work the phone. Give Slimline a call. 

Update, I just checked the website for one vendor who I know carries the Slimline SL-2000 pump. His website says they have 10 maintenance kits in stock. I have no problem recommending this vendor. I have been ordering from them for 15 years. Ron's customer service is top notch. 

http://www.ronlund.com/rcheli-prod/SLI2001.html  



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RE: Windshield washerpump ? - 8/5/2012 2:06 AM   
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or for the Boxxer:

http://www.ronlund.com/rcheli-prod/NITFP/SLI2006.html 

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RE: Windshield washerpump ? - 8/5/2012 3:00 AM   
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Sometimes you need to work the phone. Give Slimline a call. 

Update, I just checked the website for one vendor who I know carries the Slimline SL-2000 pump. His website says they have 10 maintenance kits in stock. I have no problem recommending this vendor. I have been ordering from them for 15 years. Ron's customer service is top notch. 



Not in my experience as far as trying to get hooked up via phone. I had an order for an excel fuel valve in limbo & played phone tag for about 3 days. No matter when I called, I always got voice mail & even if I called minutes after missing their return call I still got voice mail. I finally cancelled the order via e-mail. I got a snyde e-mail reply about them "not being WalMart.

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RE: Windshield washerpump ? - 8/5/2012 3:02 AM   
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I tried a snowmobile primer bulb and it worked but was kind of slow, tried a couple of swap meet electric pumps that were in a box with other things and they didn't work at all. I am not willing to buy a new one if that is what to expect.  Now I just use a big rubber bulb like 40 years ago.  I will keep my eyes on this thread though because the rubber is starting to crack and I always wanted to try a WW pump myself. A big syringe works good for bladders.  I have heard the big detergent jugs with pumps work ok too.  Never tried one because I don't hink they would seal good enough to keep the fuel fresh.



Just spend $12.99 & get the Hobbico Top Fueler MK III (electric) pump.

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RE: Windshield washerpump ? - 8/5/2012 3:30 AM   
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Sometimes you need to work the phone. Give Slimline a call. 

Update, I just checked the website for one vendor who I know carries the Slimline SL-2000 pump. His website says they have 10 maintenance kits in stock. I have no problem recommending this vendor. I have been ordering from them for 15 years. Ron's customer service is top notch. 



Not in my experience as far as trying to get hooked up via phone. I had an order for an excel fuel valve in limbo & played phone tag for about 3 days. No matter when I called, I always got voice mail & even if I called minutes after missing their return call I still got voice mail. I finally cancelled the order via e-mail. I got a snyde e-mail reply about them "not being WalMart.

If I can't get someone to talk to on the phone W/reasonable effort, I won't do business W/them.


I've never had a problem getting whatever I need from Slimline. After using their SL-2000 for about ten years w/o issue I'll never use a non-peristaltic pump again. All geared fuel pumps leak eventually, I had several priror to the SL-2000. A peristaltic pump is a superior design.









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RE: Windshield washerpump ? - 8/5/2012 5:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have heard that the kit for the 2000 will work on the Boxxer, just uses shorter length of the tubing. That tubing is thin-wall silicone rubber and not readily available. Thanks for finding those kits, I know a guy that needs one. Ron's has good inventory, nice. As for Slimline, let us know the story when you get them on the phone. I suspect they are re-grouping to launch the online store.

Not much here on the Sullivan pumps. I have 3 and only one is not leaking. Even that one leaked once, then it stopped leaking. I don't reccomend these !!


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