Thanx for getting me junkmail    Gallery
View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as Guest



Users viewing this topic: none
    Search This Thread  
 
Printable Version

All Forums >> RC Airplanes >> AMA Discussions >> Thanx for getting me junkmail
Page: [1] 2   next >   >>  

Tower Hobbies Get Coupon Codes Brands  
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
Thanx for getting me junkmail - 7/10/2012 12:19 AM   
KidEpoxy



Posts: 6681
Score: 431
Joined: 10/14/2004
Last Login: 11/18/2012
From: San Antonio, TX, USA
Status: offline 		Best part of owning a domain is the email server.
You just create a new email just for each company you deal with,
and you know where it came from by who it is addressed to.

Take the email address I made up just for when I signed up with AMA.
I didnt use tower6_09@xxxxxxx because thats the one I made up just for shopping at Tower.
I didnt use the grayson@xxxxxx nor the geikotx@xxxxxxx because those are just for grayson and geiko.
I made up an email just for AMA, and it even has AMA spelt out in it

So now when I egt junkmail addressed to grayson@xxxxx I know it was grayson that sold my info.
And if I get junk addressed to tc_tx@xxxxx I know it was TC that sold me out to the spammers.

So when I get junkmail to the address I only gave to AMA,
well, who do you figure sold me out to the spammers?

in unrelated news,
I just got an 3rdparty e-junkmail offer for AMA members emailed to the address I only gave to AMA.

Hide Signatures
       Post #: 1

RE: Thanx for getting me junkmail - 7/10/2012 1:03 AM   
rw Guinn



Posts: 502
Score: 100
Joined: 1/9/2002
Last Login: 5/14/2013
From: Fort Worth, TX, USA
Status: offline 		Not entirely trueI have received no junk mail from my AMA account.
there are lots of ways to acquire your email address, that don't involve anybody selling it to somebody else.


_____________________________

"Will you be one who passed thru but never saw?
Never knowing, never feeling anything?

Hide Signatures

(in reply to KidEpoxy)
       Post #: 2

RE: Thanx for getting me junkmail - 7/10/2012 1:40 AM   
scale only 4 me



Posts: 7656
Score: 319
Joined: 1/29/2002
Last Login: 5/23/2013
From: Avon Lake, OH, USA
Status: offline 		So then you could quickly and easily void that email addy and send them a new one you create just as easily,, but no, you come online and piss and moan about something you think the ama has once again done wrong. I don't think it a real stretch to say "who cares"

Life's short KE,, Spam is like commercials on TV,, ignore it and you'll be happier

Hide Signatures

(in reply to rw Guinn)
       Post #: 3

RE: Thanx for getting me junkmail - 7/10/2012 5:16 AM   
cj_rumley


 

Posts: 753
Score: 147
Joined: 9/21/2009
Last Login: 5/23/2013
From: Aguanga, CA, USA
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: scale only 4 me

So then you could quickly and easily void that email addy and send them a new one you create just as easily,, but no, you come online and piss and moan about something you think the ama has once again done wrong. I don't think it a real stretch to say "who cares"

Life's short KE,, Spam is like commercials on TV,, ignore it and you'll be happier


And AMA could just as easily not sell its membership list to spammers.  Many reputable companies don't, many others let one on their mail list opt in/out.  Not everyone owns a domain, most don't care for spam.  He wasn't P&Ming about it, just letting others know what to expect from an org they trust.  I for one would like to see AMA rise above the sleazy marketing games, like the 'affinity' programs, basically a legal fraud that sells the AMA 's respected name to nonamewhomever cuts them in on the take.

CJ


Hide Signatures

(in reply to scale only 4 me)
       Post #: 4

RE: Thanx for getting me junkmail - 7/10/2012 5:26 AM   
scale only 4 me



Posts: 7656
Score: 319
Joined: 1/29/2002
Last Login: 5/23/2013
From: Avon Lake, OH, USA
Status: offline 		yawn

Hide Signatures

(in reply to cj_rumley)
       Post #: 5

RE: Thanx for getting me junkmail - 7/10/2012 5:45 AM   
cj_rumley


 

Posts: 753
Score: 147
Joined: 9/21/2009
Last Login: 5/23/2013
From: Aguanga, CA, USA
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: scale only 4 me

yawn


Hope you enjoyed those unsolicited DVDs and collector coins that 'AMA' sent you, and then dunned you for payment.  I did - hung with piece of string they made nice shiny, spinning targets for my .22 pellet gun.



Hide Signatures

(in reply to scale only 4 me)
       Post #: 6

RE: Thanx for getting me junkmail - 7/10/2012 7:09 AM   
TimJ



Posts: 352
Score: 105
Joined: 4/9/2004
Last Login: 5/12/2013
From: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: scale only 4 me

So then you could quickly and easily void that email addy and send them a new one you create just as easily,, but no, you come online and piss and moan about something you think the ama has once again done wrong. I don't think it a real stretch to say ''who cares''

Life's short KE,, Spam is like commercials on TV,, ignore it and you'll be happier


+1

Funny part is the AMA gives you a way to "opt-out"



Hide Signatures

(in reply to scale only 4 me)
       Post #: 7

RE: Thanx for getting me junkmail - 7/10/2012 11:09 AM   
scale only 4 me



Posts: 7656
Score: 319
Joined: 1/29/2002
Last Login: 5/23/2013
From: Avon Lake, OH, USA
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: cj_rumley


quote:

ORIGINAL: scale only 4 me

yawn


Hope you enjoyed those unsolicited DVDs and collector coins that 'AMA' sent you, and then dunned you for payment.  I did - hung with piece of string they made nice shiny, spinning targets for my .22 pellet gun.



Speak english,, I have no idea what you're talking about,, the only thing they "dunned" me for is the mag they make me subscribe too. That's the worse spam they offer if you ask me. Maybe I'll take the 12 gauge to it,, that might be fun

Hide Signatures

(in reply to cj_rumley)
       Post #: 8

RE: Thanx for getting me junkmail - 7/10/2012 3:16 PM   
corch


 

Posts: 252
Score: 101
Joined: 3/9/2010
Last Login: 5/23/2013
From: grand rapids, MI, USA
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: KidEpoxy

Best part of owning a domain is the email server.
You just create a new email just for each company you deal with,
and you know where it came from by who it is addressed to.

Take the email address I made up just for when I signed up with AMA.
I didnt use tower6_09@xxxxxxx because thats the one I made up just for shopping at Tower.
I didnt use the grayson@xxxxxx nor the geikotx@xxxxxxx because those are just for grayson and geiko.
I made up an email just for AMA, and it even has AMA spelt out in it

So now when I egt junkmail addressed to grayson@xxxxx I know it was grayson that sold my info.
And if I get junk addressed to tc_tx@xxxxx I know it was TC that sold me out to the spammers.

So when I get junkmail to the address I only gave to AMA,
well, who do you figure sold me out to the spammers?

in unrelated news,
I just got an 3rdparty e-junkmail offer for AMA members emailed to the address I only gave to AMA.


I'm sorry, but it's right here:

"

E-mail has provided AMA with the opportunity to get information to our members in a timely cost-efficient manner. AMA on occassion partners with reputable firms to promote products that will benefit both the member and the association. AMA does not trade or sell E-mail or mailing addresses. If you would prefer that we not include your name, please check the box(es) below.
 
Please do not use my E-mail address for anything other than official AMA business.
Please do not use my mailing address for anything other than official AMA business.


If you didn't check the top box also, you may get some "junk" email.

So you really have no one to blame but yourself.....where has personal responsibility gone these days?  If you want to address this issue, go to your Web profile on the AMA website.  If you want to continue to B&M about junk/spam, do nothing.


_____________________________

Urge Congress to keep common sense in the skies

Hide Signatures

(in reply to KidEpoxy)
       Post #: 9

RE: Thanx for getting me junkmail - 7/10/2012 6:17 PM   
crash1ace


 

Posts: 118
Score: 105
Joined: 5/24/2005
Last Login: 5/21/2013
From: Danbury, CT, USA
Status: offline 		I still cant believe people complain about the magazine. There is simply nothing wrong with it, Its an enjoyable part of the hobby to read and
learn about the many different parts of this hobby. Its well worth the price of admission to me no matter how costly it gets.

Hide Signatures

(in reply to corch)
       Post #: 10

RE: Thanx for getting me junkmail - 7/10/2012 6:48 PM   
KidEpoxy



Posts: 6681
Score: 431
Joined: 10/14/2004
Last Login: 11/18/2012
From: San Antonio, TX, USA
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: corch

I'm sorry, but it's right here:

''

E-mail has provided AMA with the opportunity to get information to our members in a timely cost-efficient manner. AMA on occassion partners with reputable firms to promote products that will benefit both the member and the association. AMA does not trade or sell E-mail or mailing addresses. If you would prefer that we not include your name, please check the box(es) below.
 
Please do not use my E-mail address for anything other than official AMA business.
Please do not use my mailing address for anything other than official AMA business.


If you didn't check the top box also, you may get some ''junk'' email.

So you really have no one to blame but yourself.....where has personal responsibility gone these days?  If you want to address this issue, go to your Web profile on the AMA website.  If you want to continue to B&M about junk/spam, do nothing.


no,
you are quick to assume I didnt have that box checked,
and even AMA guy TimJ is happy to assume I didnt have it checked,
and you both assumed wrong

so if we are gonna play Show & Tell, ok I'll play too-
here's a screen grab of my settings,
so now tell you just what I was doing wrong for these years
that it is somehow MY fault for not taking "personal responsibility" as you put it


Just how much more checked was I supposed to check it?
Its been as checked as it can check

it is NOT just B&M to point out I got junk email despite that box being checked this whole time




....


TimJ
quote:

Funny part is the AMA gives you a way to "opt-out"

Not as funny as you think.

Oh, you didnt seem to say that AMA would never hand our info to junkmailers with 'AMA Only" deals,
are you gonna came back and say it?
Or are you gonna keep quiet in regard to AMA policy on generating spam for us



Attachments
Click to see fullsize image.
Click for fullsize


Hide Signatures

(in reply to corch)
       Post #: 11

RE: Thanx for getting me junkmail - 7/11/2012 2:58 AM   
rw Guinn



Posts: 502
Score: 100
Joined: 1/9/2002
Last Login: 5/14/2013
From: Fort Worth, TX, USA
Status: offline 		Nobody forced you to give them an email address.
Heck, nobody FORCED you to join.


_____________________________

"Will you be one who passed thru but never saw?
Never knowing, never feeling anything?

Hide Signatures

(in reply to KidEpoxy)
       Post #: 12

RE: Thanx for getting me junkmail - 7/11/2012 3:09 AM   
corch


 

Posts: 252
Score: 101
Joined: 3/9/2010
Last Login: 5/23/2013
From: grand rapids, MI, USA
Status: offline 		You assumed I assumed, when actually I said, "If"  (emphasis added).  Perhaps you need better security within your domain....I would ASSUME someone so savvy to have their own domain would have heard of data mining.


_____________________________

Urge Congress to keep common sense in the skies

Hide Signatures

(in reply to KidEpoxy)
       Post #: 13

RE: Thanx for getting me junkmail - 7/11/2012 4:22 PM   
bradpaul



Posts: 662
Score: 138
Joined: 1/2/2002
Last Login: 5/22/2013
From: Apopka, FL, USA
Status: offline 		Do you really believe data mining companies like AXCIOM http://www.acxiom.com  dont already have all your email addresses your home address,where you work, how much you make, what car you drive, what you buy, and just about everything else?

And they sell the data to marketing companies?

Welcome to the 21st century.....................

Brad


Hide Signatures

(in reply to corch)
       Post #: 14

RE: Thanx for getting me junkmail - 7/11/2012 5:13 PM   
Scar



Posts: 3050
Score: 126
Joined: 10/2/2002
Last Login: 5/23/2013
From: Peoria Hts, IL, USA
Status: offline 		Neat thing about MY provider is the spam catcher. If one gets thru, I can mark it SPAM with a button, and next time they don´t get thru.

Sometimes I check the spam bucket for stuff that should get through. All part of having Email.

Good luck,
Dave Olson

_____________________________

The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him GKChesterton

Hide Signatures

(in reply to KidEpoxy)
       Post #: 15

RE: Thanx for getting me junkmail - 7/11/2012 6:31 PM   
Red Scholefield



Posts: 5903
Score: 191
Joined: 12/8/2001
Last Login: 7/13/2012
From: Newberry, FL, USA
Status: offline 		KE, Please tell us exactly what you are hopping to achieve with this thread. Maybe if it was understood better something might come of it.

_____________________________

Red S "AMA 951 since 1958

Hide Signatures

(in reply to KidEpoxy)
       Post #: 16

RE: Thanx for getting me junkmail - 7/11/2012 10:02 PM   
KidEpoxy



Posts: 6681
Score: 431
Joined: 10/14/2004
Last Login: 11/18/2012
From: San Antonio, TX, USA
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: corch

You assumed I assumed, when actually I said, ''If''  (emphasis added).  Perhaps you need better security within your domain....I would ASSUME someone so savvy to have their own domain would have heard of data mining.


are you telling me AS A FACT that it didnt come from some ama condoned and supplied deal?

cause it sure sounds like your other post was just accepting that it DID come from AMA
and that I was to blame for not checking the box (which you were wrong about, the box was checked).
So now you are pulling a 180 on your opinion and suddenly no longer believe it had AMA's blessing?
Odd, your first impulsive post was that of course it did come from AMA.
> "If you didn't check the top box also, you may get some "junk" email. "


. . . .


quote:

ORIGINAL: bradpaul
Do you really believe data mining companies like AXCIOM http://www.acxiom.com dont already have all your email addresses your home address,where you work, how much you make, what car you drive, what you buy, and just about everything else?

And they sell the data to marketing companies?

are you telling me AS A FACT that it didnt come from some ama condoned and supplied deal?


. . . .


quote:

ORIGINAL: scale only 4 me
So then you could quickly and easily void that email addy and send them a new one you create just as easily,, but no, you come online and piss and moan about something you think the ama has once again done wrong. I don't think it a real stretch to say "who cares"

are you telling me AS A FACT that it didnt come from some ama condoned and supplied deal?

Hide Signatures

(in reply to corch)
       Post #: 17

RE: Thanx for getting me junkmail - 7/11/2012 10:35 PM   
Red Scholefield



Posts: 5903
Score: 191
Joined: 12/8/2001
Last Login: 7/13/2012
From: Newberry, FL, USA
Status: offline 		Are you telling us as a FACT that it did come from an ama condoned and supplied deal?

_____________________________

Red S "AMA 951 since 1958

Hide Signatures

(in reply to KidEpoxy)
       Post #: 18

RE: Thanx for getting me junkmail - 7/11/2012 11:51 PM   
804


 

Posts: 1042
Score: 172
Joined: 9/17/2005
Last Login: 5/23/2013
From: sheridan, IN, USA
Status: offline 		This may be helpful to some, maybe not...

http://www.modelaircraft.org/privacy.aspx

Hide Signatures

(in reply to Red Scholefield)
       Post #: 19

RE: Thanx for getting me junkmail - 7/12/2012 1:16 AM   
cj_rumley


 

Posts: 753
Score: 147
Joined: 9/21/2009
Last Login: 5/23/2013
From: Aguanga, CA, USA
Status: offline 		KE-

Just for giggles, did the header on the latest spam start like this:

"From: AxxAgeStore.com <newx@axxage.com>

To: Special Offer for AMA Members"

If so, your contact info along every other Tom, Dick and Harry that pays dues to AMA must have come from some data mining company like AXCIOM.  Yeah, right.  

CJ


Hide Signatures

(in reply to KidEpoxy)
       Post #: 20

RE: Thanx for getting me junkmail - 7/12/2012 3:28 PM   
corch


 

Posts: 252
Score: 101
Joined: 3/9/2010
Last Login: 5/23/2013
From: grand rapids, MI, USA
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: KidEpoxy


quote:

ORIGINAL: corch

You assumed I assumed, when actually I said, ''If''  (emphasis added).  Perhaps you need better security within your domain....I would ASSUME someone so savvy to have their own domain would have heard of data mining.


are you telling me AS A FACT that it didnt come from some ama condoned and supplied deal?

cause it sure sounds like your other post was just accepting that it DID come from AMA
and that I was to blame for not checking the box (which you were wrong about, the box was checked).
So now you are pulling a 180 on your opinion and suddenly no longer believe it had AMA's blessing?
Odd, your first impulsive post was that of course it did come from AMA.
> "If you didn't check the top box also, you may get some "junk" email. "


No, I'm not telling you as a fact.  I don't know what YOU got in YOUR email.  I can tell you AS A FACT, I haven't gotten any spam/junk from the AMA though.  Care to make any assumptions about what I get in my email?

Look, I was only trying to help, and looked at logical things that may or may not have been done.  You could have said, "no, I've got the box checked." Instead you went on a rant about assumptions and show and tell.  Since you seem to get great joy at pointing out that I (and others)were incorrect or don't know the source of the mystery email (which you have not really identitfied, and at this point, I don't care) I'm done trying to help you.  And I'll reserve the right to change my opinions based on more information, thank you very much.  Instead of working the issues, you instead want to RA with anyone that offers any semblance of assistance.  The fact remains, it is your personal email account, and it is your personal responsibility.  I don't care about who or what gets delivered to your personal domain and email server.  It's yours, not mine, and IDGAS.



_____________________________

Urge Congress to keep common sense in the skies

Hide Signatures

(in reply to KidEpoxy)
       Post #: 21

RE: Thanx for getting me junkmail - 7/12/2012 3:28 PM   
scale only 4 me



Posts: 7656
Score: 319
Joined: 1/29/2002
Last Login: 5/23/2013
From: Avon Lake, OH, USA
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Red Scholefield

KE, Please tell us exactly what you are hopping to achieve with this thread. Maybe if it was understood better something might come of it.

He's just hoping someone will get into an argument with him, that's as plain as the spam in my spam folder.



Hide Signatures

(in reply to Red Scholefield)
       Post #: 22

RE: Thanx for getting me junkmail - 7/12/2012 3:30 PM   
KidEpoxy



Posts: 6681
Score: 431
Joined: 10/14/2004
Last Login: 11/18/2012
From: San Antonio, TX, USA
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Red Scholefield

Are you telling us as a FACT that it did come from an ama condoned and supplied deal?


well gee Red, lets read my posts and see if I did

(read read read)

Nope, I didnt state as a fact that it did.
I stated as a fact that I I make up new addresses for each place.
I stated as a fact that I got junkmail from the address that I only used for AMA.
It didnt use the Tower address I gave to Tower, didnt use the geiko address I gave to the lizard.
It didnt use any of the other unique-use addresses I have.

And yet folks choose to believe someone data-mined KE so hard
that they got a gazillion other ama member addresses from mining KE (aka magical ubermining)
just so they can lay the blame on me


I presented the information I have, and some info we all have.
And folks responded akin to saying it is my fault for being data-mined (not that AMA partnered with someone).



So Red,
are you saying as a fact that AMA didnt give that address out,
are you saying as a fact that they did,
or are you gonna say maybe / maybe-not because they might have?

Hide Signatures

(in reply to Red Scholefield)
       Post #: 23

RE: Thanx for getting me junkmail - 7/12/2012 3:48 PM   
KidEpoxy



Posts: 6681
Score: 431
Joined: 10/14/2004
Last Login: 11/18/2012
From: San Antonio, TX, USA
Status: offline
quote:


ORIGINAL: corch
Look, I was only trying to help, and looked at logical things that may or may not have been done.

No, you weren't.
This look familiar-
"you really have no one to blame but yourself"
"If you want to continue to B&M about junk/spam"
You tried, and did, BLAME ME for the problem.
You didnt ask if my box was check,
You didnt say Hey, look if that box is checked.
You instead took a shot at laying condescending blame on me.


quote:

You could have said, ''no, I've got the box checked.''

Oh, so you want me to take a reasonable and civil response,
yet thats exactly what you didnt do.
Had you tried being civil and helpful rather than laying blame on something you dont know
maybe you would have gotten a response from me that didnt call you out for your false accusation.
To wit:
I wouldnt have had to call you out on your accusatory fingerpointing
if you hadnt had pointed your accusatory finger.


quote:

.... don't know the source of the mystery email (which you have not really identitfied, and at this point, I don't care) I'm done trying to help you.  And I'll reserve the right to change my opinions based on more information,

Well, maybe you wouldnt have to change your opinions or recant your accusations so much
if you waited for, or asked for, some information before jumping at the chance to lay unfounded blame.

Read post#1.
Quote where I declared that AMA did it and I blame them.
See, I dont have to recant any blaming AMA because I didnt jump to unfounded conclusions.
I stated some facts and the RA crowd here rushed to blame me for something that AMA might have done

Oh, just to be clear,
you are never going to actually apologize for your boxcheckery fingerpointing, are you?





Hide Signatures

(in reply to corch)
       Post #: 24

RE: Thanx for getting me junkmail - 7/12/2012 6:05 PM   
rgburrill



Posts: 676
Score: 126
Joined: 12/31/2010
Last Login: 5/23/2013
From: Trumbull, CT, USA
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: KidEpoxy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Red Scholefield

Are you telling us as a FACT that it did come from an ama condoned and supplied deal?


well gee Red, lets read my posts and see if I did

(read read read)

Nope, I didnt state as a fact that it did.
I stated as a fact that I I make up new addresses for each place.
I stated as a fact that I got junkmail from the address that I only used for AMA.
It didnt use the Tower address I gave to Tower, didnt use the geiko address I gave to the lizard.
It didnt use any of the other unique-use addresses I have.

And yet folks choose to believe someone data-mined KE so hard
that they got a gazillion other ama member addresses from mining KE (aka magical ubermining)
just so they can lay the blame on me


I presented the information I have, and some info we all have.
And folks responded akin to saying it is my fault for being data-mined (not that AMA partnered with someone).



So Red,
are you saying as a fact that AMA didnt give that address out,
are you saying as a fact that they did,
or are you gonna say maybe / maybe-not because they might have?


Kid, you must feel pretty special to be targetted by AMA for these spams.  I feel left out and ignored.

Hide Signatures

(in reply to KidEpoxy)
       Post #: 25

Page:   [1] 2   next >   >>  
All Forums >> RC Airplanes >> AMA Discussions >> Thanx for getting me junkmail
Page: [1] 2   next >   >>  




Jump to:


 
Google 



Search | Marketplace | Event Calendar | Local Clubs | Magazine | Product Ratings | New Products | Discussion Forums

Photo Gallery | Instructor Search | Field|Track|Marina Search

Advertisers | Hobby Vendor Resources | Rate Manufacturers | Sign In/Sign Up

SITE MAP!   : :   FORUM RULES

RC Universe is a service of Internet Brands, Inc. Copyright © 2001-2013.

Charities we support that also need your help
Yorkie Rescue | Humane Society | ASPCA | Crohn's-Colitis America


3.500RCU1