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AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL AND AM... - 7/10/2012 5:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Why i use AMSOIL products  ?        I have been flying giant scale r/c planes for about ten years now. The first time i saw giant scale planes was around 2002 i went to a giant scale R/C fly-in in Lebanon TN  where i saw many awesome flyers there,  Pros then and now !!!!!!  most of them were flying Carden planes with  DA engines !!        WHEN I SAW THEM   " I WAS HOOKED "  and at the time i didn't know much about any thing that had to do with r/c planes or engines.  I did know i wanted to fly them and loved the scale and design of the planes and OOOHHHH YES THAT AMSOIL STICKER ON THE COWL OF JUST ABOUT ALL OF THERE PLANES ???????????             NOW LET FAST FORWARD 2012    NOW I HAVE THE PLANES I DREAMED OF FLYING !!!!!!!!!!!!   and i have a lot more knowledge about what to use on my planes to make them the best planes i can fly  servos , electronics ,covering, hardware, battery's, plane kits. AND YES    ( ENGINES)  

AND THIS IS WHERE THAT STICKER COMES IN THAT I SAW IN 2002        AMSOIL

I have been using AMSOIL OIL PRODUCTS  for ten years now on my Giant Scale  R/C engines now.   the engines are two -cycle electronic ignitions motors  that operate in ranges from 1:200 to 6:800 rpm with a flying time of about  12 min  i use one pack of the AMSOIL SABER 100:1 premix packet to a gallon of gas this mix will work with  100cc  50cc  30cc motors  and i even break in the motors with this same mix  adjusting the carburetor after about three or four gallons of gas through the motor.  The reason that AMSOIL  is so awesome and easy to use  in 100cc 50cc 30cc is that  it provides optimum protection at 100:1 when the motor manufacturer has specified a 50:1 or 30:1 mix ratio.

The reason AMSOIL can do this is ( THE OIL RESIST CONSUMPTION AND EVAPORATION BETTER THAN CONVENTIONAL TWO-CYCLE OILS.THE COMBINATION OF PREMIUM BASE OIL CHEMISTRY AND SUPERIOR ADDITIVE TECHNOLOGY ALLOWS  SABER 100:1 TO DELIVER MAXIMUM PERFORMANCE AND PROTECTION IN SMALL ENGINE APPLICATIONS EVEN AT 100:1) 

Saber pro 100:1 is designed for lean mix ratios ,it contains high temperature detergents for small power equipment,  100cc 50cc 30cc  it has excellent lubricity and cleanliness properties to control friction and help prevent wear, plug fouling and ring sticking   

  IN SHORT EASY STARTING NO BURPS SPUTTERS DEAD STICKS SMOOTH RUNNING DURING THROTTLE TRANSITION
COOLER RUNNING LESS MAINTENANCE LONGER PERFORMANCE BEFORE ENGINE OVERHAUL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THERE IS KNOW BETTER PRODUCT ON THE MARKET I CHOOSE AMSOIL AS MY AIRPLANE MOTOR OIL FOR PERFORMANCE . QUALITY AND DEPENDABILITY     

   please ask any questions that you have about AMSOIL i have the wright information that you need for quality performance of you oil product 

AMSOIL FLYER AND DEALER    JAY LOFTIN          www.jayloftinyoutube.com                  amsoilj@hotmail.com


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RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL A... - 7/10/2012 5:39 PM   
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RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL A... - 7/10/2012 5:48 PM   
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RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL A... - 7/10/2012 5:57 PM   
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RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL AN... - 7/10/2012 5:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		you can run the proper ration if you like    The  AMSOIL article is saying  that the product is so good you can run just one packet if you want to run more than one packet that is ok to     100:1 1 pk   50:1  2 pk  30:1 3 pk    that is fine  but you  wouldn't void any warranty  that i know of  and i running 100:1 in all my engines i have one 20cc one 30cc two 50cc one 100cc ????????  no problems????????????  


Thank you    amsoilj


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RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL AN... - 7/10/2012 6:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Brison owners manual states use Amsoil 100:1 think there may have been user problem???????   Should ask the person that  you got the motor from if they were mixing too much oil that was not a synthetic blend before they started to run amsoil  to much oil will cause the rings to stick and seize that may have been the problem 


?????????  amsoilj


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RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL A... - 7/10/2012 6:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		The pistons were galled and the rings were stuck in the pistons - true - but I can see right now your attitude towards failure by running Amsoil at 100:!.

Your answer . . . :   "There was a problem with the previous oil and that the rings were already stuck and this caused the galling"?

The galling caused the rings to be stuck! - The rings being stuck didn't cause the galling!  What caused the galling?

Running Amsoil at 50:1 might be OK?



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RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL AN... - 7/10/2012 6:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Galling can be caused by many factors  oil holes blocked bad pins or bearings in proper tunning of crab for proper fuel mix to say it was amsoil is an easy answer no i don't think that amsoil is perfect but i don't have a problem with my engines they are running awesome and performing great  i have now idea what brison makes there parts from and if your friend ran his engine proper but as for me and the thousands of flyers that use amsoil every thing is fine ??????????????????????????? Also try some AMSOIL QUICK SHOT  this will take care of this problem if the motor is tuned wright and there is not a problem with what parts are in the motor ?




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RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL A... - 7/10/2012 7:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wow. The only posts amsoilj has made on RCU the whole time he has been "flying giant scale r/c planes for about ten years' are the 5 posts in this single thread promoting a product sold by his Amsoil dealership.

My own decision is to not run 100:1 in my engines or even use SABER. This does not even come remotely close to making me reconsider.

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RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL A... - 7/10/2012 8:00 PM   
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RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL A... - 7/10/2012 8:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you Paul     Here is a copy of the AMSOIL r/c airplane article hope this helps  if not thank you for you reply  go to page 13


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RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL A... - 7/10/2012 9:10 PM   
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RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL A... - 7/10/2012 9:16 PM   
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Status: online 		Run 3 packets to get to 30:1 (32:1) recommended for my 20cc? Seriously? Why would I want to triple or even quadruple what it cost me for oil? If you're going to tell me it's going to make my engine run better somehow, you're going to have to show/convince me with some hard evidence, opinions are worth what they cost...

Regarding making my engine last longer, at 30:1 my engine is likely going to out last me, so let's not waste time going there either...

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RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL A... - 7/11/2012 2:56 AM   
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RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL A... - 7/11/2012 2:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		amsoil sounds great.  but I can never find the stuff.  Most local motorcycle shops have redline. but it seems that only about 1 in 10 have amsoil.
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RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL A... - 7/11/2012 3:12 AM   
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RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL A... - 7/11/2012 3:25 AM  1 votes
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RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL A... - 7/11/2012 4:52 AM  1 votes
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Status: offline 		I too was an Amsoil dealer. I had 2 brand new CRRC 26s on a Nosen 310. Took it to the field to run in the engines. I had been told that at 100:1 the engines would be fine. BS. In the first 5 minutes I had wrecked the bearings in one of the engines, and nearly torched the other. After $175 to rebuild the trashed engine, not to mention putting off the maiden flight of my new plane for a month, I dropped my dealership, and never recommend to anyone that they try to use Amsoil, or any other oil for that matter at any mixture less than 32:1. Having said that, I get 12,000 miles between oil changes in my powerstroke diesel pickup using Amsoil synthetic motor oil. It is just not possible to use that lean of a mixture no matter how good the oil. And no matter who tries to tell you.

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RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL A... - 7/11/2012 7:49 AM   
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you can run the proper ration if you like    The  AMSOIL article is saying  that the product is so good you can run just one packet if you want to run more than one packet that is ok to     100:1 1 pk   50:1  2 pk  30:1 3 pk    that is fine  but you  wouldn't void any warranty  that i know of  and i running 100:1 in all my engines i have one 20cc one 30cc two 50cc one 100cc ????????  no problems????????????  


Thank you    amsoilj




why does it say message edited by amsoilj? i thought only mods could edit other peoples posts

*edit... it didnt come out on the quote... but if you look in the original post it does

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RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL A... - 7/11/2012 12:27 PM   
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RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL A... - 7/11/2012 12:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jloftin

you can run the proper ration if you like    The  AMSOIL article is saying  that the product is so good you can run just one packet if you want to run more than one packet that is ok to     100:1 1 pk   50:1  2 pk  30:1 3 pk    that is fine  but you  wouldn't void any warranty  that i know of  and i running 100:1 in all my engines i have one 20cc one 30cc two 50cc one 100cc ????????  no problems????????????  


Thank you    amsoilj




why does it say message edited by amsoilj? i thought only mods could edit other peoples posts

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When the OP first posted, he had a different user name.... amsoilj. Somehow after a few posts, that changed to jloftin.

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RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL A... - 7/11/2012 12:32 PM   
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RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL A... - 7/11/2012 2:24 PM  1 votes
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Status: offline 		Being a supporter of many Amsoil products for automobile use the number of very critical posts on running their Saber 2-cycle oil on this an other forums has always stayed in my mind. Seeing this thread continuing I just did a search on "carbon Amsoil Saber"  Come to your own conclusion.

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RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL A... - 7/11/2012 3:25 PM   
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One big thing to take notice is that it is hard to win with Amsoil Saber as when you mix it with more oil in the gas to get away from the 100:1 deal, you get hard carbon that causes almost as many problems as no oil.

I belong to several other forums related to two stroke gasoline engines and Amsoil is a bad word to mention in those forums also.



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RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL A... - 7/11/2012 4:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Okay just have to ask... Has anyone looked at ultralights?? 99% of rotax 2 strokes run amsoil at 100:1 they trust there asses to it! And for those that say well they run lower rpm... The engines at cruise turn 5800.... Just a thought if people trust there lives to it, why not our toys... Also call DA or 3w they say there is nothing wrong with it at all..

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