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RE: Giant scale RC CAR MUST SEE!!!!!! - 9/18/2003 4:33:19 PM   
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i understand you want to go rc but why dont you go in to legend or go-kart racing by putting all that money you could be really competitve

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RE: Giant scale RC CAR MUST SEE!!!!!! - 9/18/2003 4:45:51 PM   
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I'm already involved in karting as a regular participant.

But I am also a long-time fine scale modeler and wanted to experiment with this form of remote racing, as far as driving a big scale car from the cockpit using a video signal.

So I'm combining the two activities, since kart tracks provide the safest place to run this size of R/C car. Wheelbase is 44" length is 80" width is 30.5" height is 20.5"

When I'm in my sixties and seventies, and retired from regular kart action, I still want to be able to race right to the ragged edge, and past it, without any concern for personal injury.

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RE: Giant scale RC CAR MUST SEE!!!!!! - 9/18/2003 5:04:41 PM   
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What and how are the bodies made of. If they are made of fiber glass then I would love to see some pictures of the molds and the molding process, in fact I would love to be apart of building the molds and bodies. I'm available

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RE: Giant scale RC CAR MUST SEE!!!!!! - 10/21/2003 8:53:29 PM   
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Hi Hayman,

Well, I dragged out the mold and plug from the back shed, long enough to snap a couple of pics.

The mold is the same layup as the part, with a layer of 6 oz cloth on the surface, followed by two layers of 1 1/2 oz matt, then another layer of cloth on the interior.

This makes a really strong, 'sandwich' laminate construction that can take a lot of bending before it cracks. In fact, this mold has to flex a bit, just to release the part.
The top section of the roof removes, so the upper pillar areas can flex outward, keeping the upper window flanges better detailed, not needing any 'draft'.

The white areas are bondo detail fixes that were done before the actual part was laminated. Unless there are concerns for multiple parts, I like to keep my prototype one-off molds really cheap.

I'll post a few more shots of the entire molding process, in case any custom builders are thinking of building up a body for their own project.

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RE: Giant scale RC CAR MUST SEE!!!!!! - 10/21/2003 9:03:12 PM   
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Here's a shot from over a year ago, so far back, that I was preparing an '02 Monte Carlo.

I started with a scale side view that was cut into a centerline segment and a couple for the sides, then foam added between and shaped. This is urethane insulation foam and bonds in place with regular bondo.

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RE: Giant scale RC CAR MUST SEE!!!!!! - 10/22/2003 1:09:39 AM   
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Here it is a bit later.

I usually laminate one layer of 6 oz glass cloth over the shaped foam, to hold it all together.

I was getting ready to cover the front clip area with glass, then bondo.

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RE: Giant scale RC CAR MUST SEE!!!!!! - 10/22/2003 4:30:34 AM   
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But, here it is, after changing a lot of the details to look like the new '03 Monte Carlo, back in February this year.

Just lots of regular body work, sanding. Use a template maker to check contours side to side.

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RE: Giant scale RC CAR MUST SEE!!!!!! - 10/22/2003 4:29:22 PM   
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This is how the finish looked when the mold was pulled.

The green material is just scraps of the release layer, PVA left in certain areas on the plug surface.

Built up plugs from wood, glass and foam last very well, and can be stored for years without any real deterioration.

The cracks are from improper storage when the front got pushed up....whoops!

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RE: Giant scale RC CAR MUST SEE!!!!!! - 10/26/2003 4:24:48 PM   
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Here's a shot of the underfloor, shaped to conform to the steel frame, which is a copy of the full size lower frame structure.

It was planned as a one piece part, including the firewall area. I was carefull to not have any undercut areas that would 'trap' the mold in place.

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RE: Giant scale RC CAR MUST SEE!!!!!! - 10/26/2003 4:29:35 PM   
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Here's the floorpan mold, as it released from the plug.

Bondo used to hold it down on a small wood frame, for easier working.

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RE: Giant scale RC CAR MUST SEE!!!!!! - 11/4/2003 6:02:29 AM   
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I must say that is some awesome work you have done! however I was wondering if you would be willing to do a Outlaw sprint car the same size ? I have searched high and low sideways and back and havent seen a sprint car to scale spec's! I've been Outlaws racing my whole life or been around them for just as long, and never seen something that size with that much detail!!! Please let me know what we can work out!!!


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RE: Giant scale RC CAR MUST SEE!!!!!! - 11/6/2003 3:17:03 PM   
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cannonball, noticed awhile back that u were still in the thinking stages of uploading a video of this thing in action. where are u on that venture? i have plenty of webspace, so i would be more than happy to host the video for free. lemmi know.

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RE: Giant scale RC CAR MUST SEE!!!!!! - 11/6/2003 5:09:06 PM   
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Thanks for the offer, Nitroaddict.

The 40% racing/testing season has ended early for me, as my custom composites business has become quite busy again and I don't know if I'll be taking the car out again too soon.

Hopefully, the fresh cash flow will allow me to upgrade my driver-cam to a clearer, more continuous feed in the next few months, and then I'll be glad to take you up on your offer.

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RE: Giant scale RC CAR MUST SEE!!!!!! - 11/10/2003 1:27:05 AM   
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Here's a shot of the lower frame section, as the car began assembly.

Note the chain drive setup, which has now been replaced with a belt. Much quieter and smoother.

Note also, the solid axle setup, which will be replaced with a suspended live axle, for next year. I wanted to build the simplest possible chassis, just to get it working this year.

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