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RE: TF FW190 GIANT ARF - 1/30/2013 4:18 AM   
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Gee i would like a lick of that ice cream.
Is this the latest ARF!.



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RE: TF FW190 GIANT ARF - 1/31/2013 3:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Found out yesterday that because of the size, my Butcher Bird will be coming via triuck to the LHS, not by UPS.

It will be delayed a few days, but saving $84 on the shipping will be worth it.

The TW retract will be here today so I will probaly go over & pick it up tis evening.

BTW: Anyone that has already purchased the mechanical retract that wants to upgrade it for use W/the electric mains & control board, electric actuator is available seperately.

All you need to do is mount it where the servo would be located & use the same pushrod set-up..

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RE: TF FW190 GIANT ARF - 1/31/2013 4:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		SrTelemaster150 wrote "BTW: Anyone that has already purchased the mechanical retract that wants to upgrade it for use W/the electric mains & control board, electric actuator is available seperately."

Nice but my question is can you stop it part way up so its scale?

I have the Mechanical Retract and the electric actuator would take the place of a servo.





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RE: TF FW190 GIANT ARF - 1/31/2013 4:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		The control board monitors the current drawn by the actuator and when it gets to a "stopping point, it shuts off the actuator. 

You can put a mechanical stop to have the tail wheel only retract as far as it should go "scale-like" and the board with stop the actuator from going any further.


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RE: TF FW190 GIANT ARF - 1/31/2013 7:14 PM   
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The control board monitors the current drawn by the actuator and when it gets to a ''stopping point, it shuts off the actuator. 

You can put a mechanical stop to have the tail wheel only retract as far as it should go ''scale-like'' and the board with stop the actuator from going any further.


OR, set it up W/the full retracted position of the actuator @ the "scale" TW position & use the down lock of the TW as the "stop" for the extended position

I'm glad somebody brought that up as I hadn't even thought of that.

I just got off the phone, the TW is in, but no tracking on the truck that has my Butcher Bird yet.

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RE: TF FW190 GIANT ARF - 1/31/2013 7:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		So Pettit your saying the tail wheel will stop when it feels a over load current.

It will not stall and burn out the actuator?

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RE: TF FW190 GIANT ARF - 1/31/2013 8:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Nope.  You can cycle the main gears and stop one with your hand at any point in the cycle and it will sense an increase in current. 

It will then stop and stay tat that position, drawing zero current, until the controller senses a change in the transmitter signal, i. e. changing the retract switch to the other direction.

The tail wheel uses the same citcuitry and actuator and works the same way.



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RE: TF FW190 GIANT ARF - 1/31/2013 8:42 PM   
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BTW: Anyone that has already purchased the mechanical retract that wants to upgrade it for use W/the electric mains & control board, electric actuator is available seperately.

All you need to do is mount it where the servo would be located & use the same pushrod set-up..


I have the electrical mains on the way but what do I need to complete the electrical tailwheel as described?


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RE: TF FW190 GIANT ARF - 1/31/2013 8:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm going to run over later & P/U the TW retract.

I'll dismantle it & take some PIX of the actuator.

I'll post them later tonight.

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RE: TF FW190 GIANT ARF - 1/31/2013 9:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks Pettit!! That's what I wanted to know. Now I will decide on actuator or servo. Actuator would be easy to set up with the mains.

My DLE 55RA is on back order till Feb. On the 55RA sight they say they are having problems with muffler coming apart.

Maybe I should change to the OS 60 or Dle60 twin even if the plug boots show?

Tower sent me an E-Mail asking if I wanted to change the engine.

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RE: TF FW190 GIANT ARF - 1/31/2013 11:18 PM   
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RE: TF FW190 GIANT ARF - 1/31/2013 11:51 PM   
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Thanks Pettit!! That's what I wanted to know. Now I will decide on actuator or servo. Actuator would be easy to set up with the mains.

My DLE 55RA is on back order till Feb. On the 55RA sight they say they are having problems with muffler coming apart.

Maybe I should change to the OS 60 or Dle60 twin even if the plug boots show?

Tower sent me an E-Mail asking if I wanted to change the engine.



I picked up the electric TW retract & as I suspected it is noting more than a screw jack riveted to the frame of the mechanical TW utilizing the same link point as the serevo/pusrod..

I'll get some PIX up later.

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RE: TF FW190 GIANT ARF - 1/31/2013 11:58 PM   
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Thanks Pettit!! That's what I wanted to know. Now I will decide on actuator or servo. Actuator would be easy to set up with the mains.

My DLE 55RA is on back order till Feb. On the 55RA sight they say they are having problems with muffler coming apart.

Maybe I should change to the OS 60 or Dle60 twin even if the plug boots show?

Tower sent me an E-Mail asking if I wanted to change the engine.

I'm flip-flopping between Saito FA450R3 or an ASP FS400R5. The Saito is $500 more than the ASP, (shipped) makes 10% more HP & will be easier (cheaper) to convert to CDI. I refuse to run glow ignition. Compared to CDI on methanol it has less power, wastes about 20% of the fuel. is unreliable @ low idle speeds (especialy in radials) & harder to start.

I would rather have 7# of 4-stroke radial up front for ballast than lead.

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RE: TF FW190 GIANT ARF - 2/1/2013 12:11 AM   
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what is the rLm paints you talk about.?



Try this..

http://www.cybermodeler.com/color/rlm.shtml

http://www.paintassistant.com/rlm.html

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RE: TF FW190 GIANT ARF - 2/1/2013 2:01 AM   
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Nope.  You can cycle the main gears and stop one with your hand at any point in the cycle and it will sense an increase in current. 

It will then stop and stay tat that position, drawing zero current, until the controller senses a change in the transmitter signal, i. e. changing the retract switch to the other direction.

The tail wheel uses the same citcuitry and actuator and works the same way.




This explains the MA write up. There they had gear stuck and when cycled it worked. Must have had a burr or something similar.

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RE: TF FW190 GIANT ARF - 2/1/2013 3:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		thanks ram whtch brand paint do you use on tys cockpits. whtch one sticks better.?

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RE: TF FW190 GIANT ARF - 2/1/2013 3:40 PM   
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RE: TF FW190 GIANT ARF - 2/1/2013 6:54 PM   
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RE: TF FW190 GIANT ARF - 2/3/2013 11:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Put the maiden on my fw 190 today. This thing flys better than the p47. i had to put 2 clicks of down trim in her and that was it. one of the guys took video. Ill get that posted as soon as he gets it to me.

Another quality Toflite product.

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RE: TF FW190 GIANT ARF - 2/5/2013 7:18 AM   
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RE: TF FW190 GIANT ARF - 2/5/2013 1:18 PM   
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RE: TF FW190 GIANT ARF - 2/5/2013 1:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Remove the choke plate and then take out the ball and spring, or just cut a turn off the spring.  This will put less strain on the choke servo.


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RE: TF FW190 GIANT ARF - 2/5/2013 4:22 PM   
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Put the maiden on my fw 190 today. This thing flys better than the p47. i had to put 2 clicks of down trim in her and that was it. one of the guys took video. Ill get that posted as soon as he gets it to me.

Another quality Toflite product.



Looking forward to the video. Mine is on the way and I will use Saito 450 converted completely to gas by Adrian at www.ch-ignition.com




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RE: TF FW190 GIANT ARF - 2/6/2013 2:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Gary took this from his phone and did a good job its short but you guys get the idea. I know the rule i just didnt follow it....Pull the flaps on landing. It wasn’t as bad as I could have been I guess. Any way very nice bird to fly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvR9xXcaEcQ&feature=youtu.be

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RE: TF FW190 GIANT ARF - 2/6/2013 2:29 AM   
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