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RE: ARIXTRA Build Thread by ISAAC NAJARY - 9/21/2012 5:36 PM   
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RE: ARIXTRA Build Thread by ISAAC NAJARY - 9/21/2012 5:38 PM   
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RE: ARIXTRA Build Thread by ISAAC NAJARY - 9/22/2012 2:52 PM   
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Hi Najary,

Another great build thread!

On the hinges to use, just wonder why not the CA type.

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RE: ARIXTRA Build Thread by ISAAC NAJARY - 9/23/2012 3:12 PM   
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Hi Najary,

Another great build thread!

On the hinges to use, just wonder why not the CA type.

Thanks


Hi Nonstoprc,

I prefer the method of pivot pin over the plastic bending which I do not know how long it will last.

I like the GPM hinges because the epoxy glue penetrates into the holes and works like pins which prevent the hinges to come out from the control surface.

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RE: ARIXTRA Build Thread by ISAAC NAJARY - 9/23/2012 4:10 PM   
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Understood. Maybe try a couple as the middle hingers first. I shared the similar view as yours before and now use CA type inclusively.

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RE: ARIXTRA Build Thread by ISAAC NAJARY - 9/24/2012 7:05 AM   
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G'day mate just wondering about your hinge cutter.......where can I get one

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RE: ARIXTRA Build Thread by ISAAC NAJARY - 9/24/2012 8:33 AM   
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G'day mate just wondering about your hinge cutter.......where can I get one

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Hi Macros,

Here it is:
http://www.centralhobbies.com/Tools/alignment.html#Taper

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RE: ARIXTRA Build Thread by ISAAC NAJARY - 9/24/2012 5:48 PM   
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Saving 2 grams - (2.1-0.1)

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RE: ARIXTRA Build Thread by ISAAC NAJARY - 9/25/2012 6:11 PM   
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RE: ARIXTRA Build Thread by ISAAC NAJARY - 9/25/2012 6:25 PM   
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RE: ARIXTRA Build Thread by ISAAC NAJARY - 9/26/2012 11:47 AM   
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Saving 5.4 gram = (2.4+2.4+0.6)

Savox screws - 2.4 gram,

Central Hobbies Deep Head Socket Screws - 1.8 gram
http://www.centralhobbies.com/building_materials/fasteners/fastnr.htm

Futaba screws - 1.2 gram

Elevators - 2.4 gram = 2X(2.4-1.2)

Ailerons - 2.4 gram = 2X(2.4-1.2)

Rudder - 0.6 gram = (2.4-1.8)



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RE: ARIXTRA Build Thread by ISAAC NAJARY - 9/26/2012 11:55 AM   
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RE: ARIXTRA Build Thread by ISAAC NAJARY - 9/29/2012 6:23 PM   
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Saving 4.6 grams - (14.3-9.7)

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RE: ARIXTRA Build Thread by ISAAC NAJARY - 10/2/2012 4:23 PM   
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RE: ARIXTRA Build Thread by ISAAC NAJARY - 10/2/2012 4:25 PM   
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RE: ARIXTRA Build Thread by ISAAC NAJARY - 10/2/2012 4:28 PM   
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RE: ARIXTRA Build Thread by ISAAC NAJARY - 10/3/2012 8:41 AM   
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Isaac,

I see you adding the cover to the bottom of the horizontal stab halves. itsn't that going to cause any trim (up trim)?

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RE: ARIXTRA Build Thread by ISAAC NAJARY - 10/3/2012 12:39 PM   
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On the choice of pushrods, it seems the metal ones could be replaced by solid carbon fiber type (say, 2.5mm) to save some weight.

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RE: ARIXTRA Build Thread by ISAAC NAJARY - 10/3/2012 5:03 PM   
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Isaac,

I see you adding the cover to the bottom of the horizontal stab halves. itsn't that going to cause any trim (up trim)?

Ihncheol


Hi Ihncheol,

Theoretically you right, but it doesn't matter because you have to trim the plane anyway.

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RE: ARIXTRA Build Thread by ISAAC NAJARY - 10/3/2012 5:09 PM   
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On the choice of pushrods, it seems the metal ones could be replaced by solid carbon fiber type (say, 2.5mm) to save some weight.


Yes, but how you connect the carbon rod to the plastic bearing link?

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RE: ARIXTRA Build Thread by ISAAC NAJARY - 10/3/2012 6:05 PM   
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On the choice of pushrods, it seems the metal ones could be replaced by solid carbon fiber type (say, 2.5mm) to save some weight.


Yes, but how you connect the carbon rod to the plastic bearing link?

Best regards,

Isaac Najary


Thin cyano run into the assembled pushrod.
Used on several models over time , hence the extra tube in the middle!
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RE: ARIXTRA Build Thread by ISAAC NAJARY - 10/3/2012 8:11 PM   
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Hi Najary,

I have great success with JB weld to glue the CF rod ends to the connectors.

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RE: ARIXTRA Build Thread by ISAAC NAJARY - 10/3/2012 10:32 PM   
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Isaac,

I see you adding the cover to the bottom of the horizontal stab halves. itsn't that going to cause any trim (up trim)?

Ihncheol


Hi Ihncheol,

Theoretically you right, but it doesn't matter because you have to trim the plane anyway.

Best regards,

Isaac Najary




I think these style of covers actually create more drag than an uncovered servo arm. The large opening at the back of the fairing/cover creates a very turbulent point with a high drag rise.

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RE: ARIXTRA Build Thread by ISAAC NAJARY - 10/5/2012 12:48 PM   
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On the choice of pushrods, it seems the metal ones could be replaced by solid carbon fiber type (say, 2.5mm) to save some weight.


Yes, but how you connect the carbon rod to the plastic bearing link?

Best regards,

Isaac Najary


Thin cyano run into the assembled pushrod.
Used on several models over time , hence the extra tube in the middle!
[URL=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/189/cftube002.jpg/] [/URL]

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Hi Nonstop,

The carbon rod is superior were you want a long pushrod, but were you need a sort one I prefer the A metal pushrod because I is simpler and about the same weight.

Think about it.

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RE: ARIXTRA Build Thread by ISAAC NAJARY - 10/5/2012 2:39 PM   
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Hi Najary,

yes, gluing the carbon fiber rods to the baring joints is more involving, as the length of the rod has to be cut precisely.

On comparison of weight of carbon fiber rods vs. metal rods, I am afraid CF rods definitely are lighter!

I quoted the spec for Graphlite Carbon Fiber Rod: 0.098" Dia., 3 ft. long, 2.49 mm x 0.9 m, weight 7.2 grams

and the density chart for CF tubes vs. other materials.

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