Arbo
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ORIGINAL: littlecrankshaf Heck, wouldn't life would be so much better if you could just delete his posts??? LOL Nope. But the reality of not removing posts because they were disagreed with has been pointed out and proved over and over. Horrace, I just looked at that thread, it does not show a single message that has been moved to the recycle bin. Which means if any message was removed, it was done by an admin and they deleted it completely, as I move messages to the recycle bin. I should add in, The Edge is correct in pretty much saying this whole discussion is stupid. As has been stated repeatedly, just like every other forum, the AMA forum had rules. They were more strict than most other forums because those that decided to put up the forum had seen what goes on in other forums, the recreational arguing, the bickering the backhanded jabs and other nonsense. They didn't want ANY of that on their forum. They wanted a more civil environment, a more positive environment. You could say what you wanted, be it supporting the AMA and it's policies, or questioning the AMA and it's policies, *as long as it was kept civil and postive*. There are plenty of users that were able to do this, and you can read through old threads and see both pro and con in different messages. In a society that has trended towards all out bickering and arguing, pitting side against side, I kinda applaud the AMA for at least attempting to hold a higher standard and not let their forum become just another one full of uncivil behavior. They relied on normal AMA members to put forth their time and effort to enforce the rules and keep things civil on the forum. Some of those in charge watched over the forum and 'moderated' things when they got out of hand, but most of that fell to the 'civilian' voluenteers, as they checked in more frequently. Every single one of those that offered their time and effort were attacked for enforcing the AMA's rules. Claims of conspiracy, claims of bias, claimes of some secret agenda, the list goes on and on, and the 'attackers' never stopped. It always seemed it would be easier to read over one's own post prior to hitting 'send' and ensure it stayed inside the rules, rather than get bent out of shape and run to 2 or 3 other forums to complain that they 'were treated unfairly'. Quite a few of those that complained insessantly about the 'moderation' were also those that could be found across the internet talking about how the AMA forum shouldn't exist at all. And when it is announced that it is closing up, the reaction is 180 degrees out from their previous wishes. You can search this thread, you can search other threads in the sub forum, you can search other forums on the topic of the AMA or the AMA forums, and read posts from the same people, with the same negative attitude, the same finger pointing and uncivil behavior. This sub forum doesn't get much traffic, nor does the AMA sub form on another big RC forum, because of the same group of people doing the same thing over and over. The behavior keeps otherwise good and civil contributors away from those areas. It was no different on the AMA's forum, other than we did our best to enforce the rules with an even hand and ensure the site did not become another RC(X) AMA sub forum. This obviously made a lot of people mad. They weren't allowed to act and post as they could elsewhere. And rather than follow the rules, they simply complained. *They* owned that forum because their dues paid for it, it was a violation of their 1st amendment rights to not let them say *whatever they wanted*, *however they wanted*. You can go back YEARS on several of these forums and see the same attitudes from the same handful of users. In the end, a combination of those that would not follow the rules there, that were always trying to create drama, scaring away good and civil contributors, together with the lack of effort on the AMA's part to keep AMA officials checking in and active on the forum, all combined to kill it. I'm sure any AMA official that was involved in/with the forum would dismiss their lack of effort, but if they were honest (rather than PC) would say the main reason for shutting it down was it required too much effort due to a few select users.
< Message edited by Arbo -- 8/28/2012 5:54 PM >
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