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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum - 8/29/2012 5:07 PM   
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The rules at the AMA site could have been rendered into just one; If we (anyone of us) don't like what you post we will remove it and if you do that enough we will ban you... That just about covers it.

There's another forum that does that also. Always denied, but there are more than enough people who have attested to it with more than enough examples. What I've observed is that by the time people start speaking out about it, the issue is well known to impartial users of the forum that spend much time there. Even if you get a crowd of people posting about the issues, they would still deny it though. In their case however, they wisely do their best to neither confirm or deny the claims, simply not responding to them.

I think I know which one your talking about...and I agree.

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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum - 8/29/2012 5:07 PM   
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I might believe that... but when I look at how you responded to another AMA forum site when actions were taken against you...I am going to stay with my first blush...


Oh be honest, you aren't going to let even a tiny bit of reality enter your brain and thus taint your preconceived notions.   



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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum - 8/29/2012 5:10 PM   
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I might believe that... but when I look at how you responded to another AMA forum site when actions were taken against you...I am going to stay with my first blush...


Oh be honest, you aren't going to let even a tiny bit of reality enter your brain and thus taint your preconceived notions.   




Oh be honest, you aren't going to let even a tiny bit of reality enter your brain and thus taint your preconceived notions.   

Hey, ain't it about time for somebody to make another post about beating a dead horse???

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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum - 8/29/2012 5:16 PM   
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Hey, ain't it about time for somebody to make another post about beating a dead horse???


Ah, copying words.  But they apply to you.  As it has been shown again and again, and the forum is still open where you can see posts that disagree with AMA policy still there.    So it was never about what was liked or not liked, it was about the rules.   Pure and simple.  If you (or anyone else) was unable or unwilling to follow them, that is the fault of that individual alone.





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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum - 8/29/2012 5:21 PM   
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What you don't understand is that I understand you got caught up in the crossfire. That crossfire is inevitable in situations where divisiveness is a constant. That divisiveness was a simple proposition of AMA's (who ever that is) intent to utilize a discussion forum for the main purpose to project a positive image of itself... It was destined to fail from the beginning...doesn't take genius to see that!!! Can you say "conflict of interest"???

You were just a pawn in the endeavor.

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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum - 8/29/2012 7:30 PM   
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Ok Arbo,

What you don't understand is that I understand you got caught up in the crossfire. That crossfire is inevitable in situations where divisiveness is a constant. That divisiveness was a simple proposition of AMA's (who ever that is) intent to utilize a discussion forum for the main purpose to project a positive image of itself... It was destined to fail from the beginning...doesn't take genius to see that!!! Can you say "conflict of interest"???

You were just a pawn in the endeavor.


It appears that you still do not see the big picture.


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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum - 8/29/2012 7:59 PM   
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 Good, Bad, Don't care?   In any case this is from the minutes of the AMA July EC meeting:

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The ED reported the forum was created some time in 2009. It has almost 2700 members and out of that, 2350 have made one post or less; and 90% of those posts come from 10 members. The proposal is to close the AMA forum; it is believed this can be done now because the blog system is now up and running. The blog system is a quicker way to get better information to our members; and eliminates the potential for conversations to get dragged off track.  HQ continues to refine the ticket system (Ask AMA) where someone can ask a question and get an answer within 48 hours by a staff person; and creating the knowledge base mentioned earlier that will supplement the Ask AMA system on-line. 



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Something has been bothering me about the numbers posted. The forum lists 2628 members and that is close enough to the almost 2700 number presented to the EC however that does not represent forum users. If I’m not mistaken that number represents the number of people that have a log-in to the official AMA Website. They do not all necessarily know that the AMA forum even exists. The link to it is not exactly a stand out feature of the main AMA Web page.

“2350 have made one post or less” At first I thought this was a typo but if not it is a gross misrepresentation of the numbers. The member list shows 427 members with one post or more which leaves 2201 members that either did not post or was not aware of the forum.

“90% of those posts come from 10 members.” Not sure where we should set the bar here so let me just throw out some numbers;

> 10 posts = 85
> 30 posts = 44
> 50 posts = 38
> 100 posts = 25
> 500 posts = 11
> 1000 posts = 2
> 2000 posts = 1

If we average the number of post with the number of actual posters we get an average about 30 posts. Look at the numbers and we have 44 that hit the average but even that number is skewed because many of those are administrators or moderators of the forum and should we even count them as users.

What was presented to the EC just doesn’t add up.

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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum - 8/29/2012 10:14 PM   
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What was presented to the EC just doesn’t add up.

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And that suprises you?

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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum - 8/29/2012 11:39 PM   
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 Good, Bad, Don't care?   In any case this is from the minutes of the AMA July EC meeting:

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AMA On-line Forum
The ED reported the forum was created some time in 2009. It has almost 2700 members and out of that, 2350 have made one post or less; and 90% of those posts come from 10 members. The proposal is to close the AMA forum; it is believed this can be done now because the blog system is now up and running. The blog system is a quicker way to get better information to our members; and eliminates the potential for conversations to get dragged off track.  HQ continues to refine the ticket system (Ask AMA) where someone can ask a question and get an answer within 48 hours by a staff person; and creating the knowledge base mentioned earlier that will supplement the Ask AMA system on-line. 



Brad

Brad,
Something has been bothering me about the numbers posted. The forum lists 2628 members and that is close enough to the almost 2700 number presented to the EC however that does not represent forum users. If I’m not mistaken that number represents the number of people that have a log-in to the official AMA Website. They do not all necessarily know that the AMA forum even exists. The link to it is not exactly a stand out feature of the main AMA Web page.

“2350 have made one post or less” At first I thought this was a typo but if not it is a gross misrepresentation of the numbers. The member list shows 427 members with one post or more which leaves 2201 members that either did not post or was not aware of the forum.

“90% of those posts come from 10 members.” Not sure where we should set the bar here so let me just throw out some numbers;

> 10 posts = 85
> 30 posts = 44
> 50 posts = 38
> 100 posts = 25
> 500 posts = 11
> 1000 posts = 2
> 2000 posts = 1

If we average the number of post with the number of actual posters we get an average about 30 posts. Look at the numbers and we have 44 that hit the average but even that number is skewed because many of those are administrators or moderators of the forum and should we even count them as users.

What was presented to the EC just doesn’t add up.

Regards
Frank


Well as the "ED" is the same guy that was the "AMA President" at the time the forum was created, the guy that wrote the "New Forum Guidelines" and the guy that named Arbo as moderator, how could we expect that the numbers add up.

Hey Arbo I just noticed that every new moderator but you had a nice welcome post from Dave on the forum? 


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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum - 8/29/2012 11:44 PM   
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Hey Arbo I just noticed that every new moderator but you had a nice welcome post from Dave on the forum? 


Just because it's not where you can see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.   Though I wonder how much time you spent looking for something like that to try and make a mountain out of. 



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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum - 8/30/2012 12:37 AM   
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Hey Arbo I just noticed that every new moderator but you had a nice welcome post from Dave on the forum? 


Just because it's not where you can see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.   Though I wonder how much time you spent looking for something like that to try and make a mountain out of. 




About 10 seconds...... I was looking up the Dave M post on "New Forum Guidelines" and saw two other threads in the section welcoming "New Moderators". 

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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum - 8/30/2012 6:14 AM   
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Hey Arbo I just noticed that every new moderator but you had a nice welcome post from Dave on the forum? 


Just because it's not where you can see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.   Though I wonder how much time you spent looking for something like that to try and make a mountain out of. 




About 10 seconds...... I was looking up the Dave M post on ''New Forum Guidelines'' and saw two other threads in the section welcoming ''New Moderators''. 

Hmmm... maybe Arbo was Dave's red headed step child...LOL

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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum - 8/30/2012 6:17 AM   
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Ok Arbo,

What you don't understand is that I understand you got caught up in the crossfire. That crossfire is inevitable in situations where divisiveness is a constant. That divisiveness was a simple proposition of AMA's (who ever that is) intent to utilize a discussion forum for the main purpose to project a positive image of itself... It was destined to fail from the beginning...doesn't take genius to see that!!! Can you say ''conflict of interest''???

You were just a pawn in the endeavor.


It appears that you still do not see the big picture.


Your probably right...What is the big picture??? Maybe the AMA thought the model aviation community needed a forum to discuss stuff...Oh wait there were already a few...Hmmm...drawing a blank...maybe you can fill it in...

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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum - 8/30/2012 11:53 AM   
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What was presented to the EC just doesn’t add up.

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And that suprises you?

Not really, just wondering if anyone else noticed.

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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum - 8/30/2012 3:27 PM   
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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum - 8/30/2012 4:39 PM   
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Guys, they are calling it a day, might as well do the same.



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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum - 8/30/2012 4:59 PM   
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Guys, they are calling it a day, might as well do the same.

Who are "they"?

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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum - 8/30/2012 5:44 PM   
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Guys, they are calling it a day, might as well do the same.

Who are ''they''?

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Maybe he means "his gang"...

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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum - 8/30/2012 6:14 PM   
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Guys, they are calling it a day, might as well do the same.

Who are ''they''?

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Maybe he means ''his gang''...

Of course, what was I thinking; I should have recognized the conspiracy code speak.

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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum - 8/30/2012 7:07 PM   
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Of course, what was I thinking; I should have recognized the conspiracy code speak.

Regards

Glad to have cleared that up

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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum - 9/5/2012 5:44 AM   
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I really Feel for the moderator.....
In all this nonsense.... I can take this from this posts "There are some REAL Cookies..... on this one"

I think the conspiracy is that the mentals, are out walking around in the public, and they are able to put on a face of normality, and they have everyone
to believe they are SANE persons!..... But when they are able to hide from public eye, and post what they are REALLY thinking …..
The conspiracy shocker is, that I thought this was ONLY with FEMALES
This completely throws me for a loop!..

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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum - 9/5/2012 2:53 PM   
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Looks like the moderating standards were ARBO-trary .



Yeah, that's what has been repeated. Doesn't matter that it isn't true.



Isn't true ? What isn't true ? The" arbotrary" part ? The fact is , it certainly appears arbitray to many of us . That part is in fact TRUE .

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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum - 9/5/2012 6:33 PM   
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Isn't true ? What isn't true ? The" arbotrary" part ? The fact is , it certainly appears arbitray to many of us . That part is in fact TRUE .


The haters are going to hate, no matter the reality of the situation.



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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum - 9/5/2012 7:02 PM   
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Isn't true ? What isn't true ? The'' arbotrary'' part ? The fact is , it certainly appears arbitray to many of us . That part is in fact TRUE .


The haters are going to hate, no matter the reality of the situation.



Dang Arbo,

I thought you may have heeded the advice of one of your good friends and decided to let this thread go... I am very disappointed to see you come back in here and cast aspersions of "haters" again... Same song...different day!


Can't you see that is the actual problem???

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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum - 9/5/2012 9:36 PM   
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Dang Arbo,

I thought you may have heeded the advice of one of your good friends and decided to let this thread go... I am very disappointed to see you come back in here and cast aspersions of "haters" again... Same song...different day!


Can't you see that is the actual problem???


I understand your see a problem that does not exist.   But stating the truth of the situtation about haters is nothing more than stating the truth.    The history of the same people putting forth the same slander is all over the net for people to see.
They can not hide the history of their behavior. 





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