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RE: Good sport jet for a fair price ? - 8/26/2012 11:40 AM   
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RE: Good sport jet for a fair price ? - 8/26/2012 11:57 AM   
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RE: Good sport jet for a fair price ? - 8/26/2012 1:11 PM   
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I got it wrong last time, there are some videos on line!
It has that Bandit/Ultra Flash look!

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RE: Good sport jet for a fair price ? - 8/26/2012 3:00 PM   
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HI Guys, most are not pricing a jet right, the up front money is not a good way of pricing a jet. The proper way to price a jet is the  total cost to get it in the air, subtract the resale value, then divide the number of flights you got on it.
In other words, its the cost per flight.
My BVM jets are the cheapest, and FEJ's, the most expensive.
The best entry jet and first flight of the day jet is the Boomerang Sprint.
The second  tough , allround jet is the Flash.
And next is the BVM Bandit and Bobcat.
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I don't understant the Matrix of your Math... Can you give an example with Dollar Numbers... No specific aircraft is needed... I just don't understand the math. IE: Where do you get " Resale Value " is there a Blue Book.?? I understand the # of flights figure, but what do you do with that # in relation the Resale Value or the Price to get it in the air... LOST...


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RE: Good sport jet for a fair price ? - 8/26/2012 4:18 PM   
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RE: Good sport jet for a fair price ? - 8/26/2012 5:24 PM   
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HI, resale valve is not rocket science, most guys know what used aircraft sell for, just check the sold items in the market place.
Also just ask the question, most guys are more than willing to give a value.
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When I look at cost to purchase vs resale value I sure wouldn't put bvm at the top anymore. The flashes sell for a higher percentage of new than any bvm jet does anymore. I took a bigger beating on my super bandit and kingcat than any other jet I've owned.
I loved my kingcat, I don't like bandits, after building the super bandit, flying it, and flying numerous others, I'd never buy another bandit. I think the flash looks better, flys better, and is a far better value than a bandit.
When you do check the jets that have sold, not just what people are asking, I think you'd find the resale on bvm products is nowhere near what it used to be. The simple fact is, there are products out there today that are just as good or better than bvm for far less money.

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RE: Good sport jet for a fair price ? - 8/26/2012 6:45 PM   
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Hello guys,

im looking for a good sport medium size jet, something like the Ultra Flash or Bandit, preferabely fully composite (as it needs to be tough) for a fair price.
I would love an Ultra Flash relaly but the price is steep so im having second thoughts.

Does this exist at all ? it seems like the market is lacking in this field.

thanks for reading.


How about the Y/A Starfire


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RE: Good sport jet for a fair price ? - 8/26/2012 8:45 PM   
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I have the small and large. I have many flights on the Large. Great flying jet. Wont be as fast as a bandit or flash, but should be better in every other aspect.
All composite. lots of carbon, tough as heck and flys great.
Easy to break down.
just another option.
I think they are under $4K
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RE: Good sport jet for a fair price ? - 8/26/2012 9:29 PM   
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the discussion is a bit beyond what i intended.

the topic is a high speed aerobatic jet (such as the flash etc) with better cost - it might very well not exist, but its certainly no reaction or easyjet !


It doesn't exist. The Ultra Flash offers a lot of value for the money, so I think your expectations are off if you think it is "pricey". You would be better off buying used and letting someone else take the depreciation hit.

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RE: Good sport jet for a fair price ? - 8/27/2012 4:56 AM   
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RE: Good sport jet for a fair price ? - 8/27/2012 8:34 AM   
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RE: Good sport jet for a fair price ? - 8/27/2012 12:27 PM   
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RE: Good sport jet for a fair price ? - 8/27/2012 12:41 PM   
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RE: Good sport jet for a fair price ? - 8/27/2012 2:21 PM   
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Having only a Toyota Corolla you are limited to what you can fit. Don't forget there is a lot of support equipment required with Jets. You should be looking for a twin boom airplane, like the Bobcat or Boomerang. Both brake down to small packages.



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RE: Good sport jet for a fair price ? - 8/27/2012 7:59 PM   
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Gryphon...........

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can you provide details / costs ?


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RE: Good sport jet for a fair price ? - 8/28/2012 7:26 AM   
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can you provide details / costs ?


http://www.gbr-jet.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=76&osCsid=f035oeu53sgmmv3lk6lnd48mk6

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RE: Good sport jet for a fair price ? - 8/28/2012 6:27 PM   
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can you provide details / costs ?


http://www.gbr-jet.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=76&osCsid=f035oeu53sgmmv3lk6lnd48mk6



which LG do you recommend and how much are they ?


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RE: Good sport jet for a fair price ? - 8/28/2012 7:24 PM   
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You might as well buy a Ultra Flash

The Gryphon is a good looking ship though

I wouldn't mind having one...

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RE: Good sport jet for a fair price ? - 8/28/2012 7:58 PM   
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RE: Good sport jet for a fair price ? - 8/28/2012 8:03 PM   
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Gryphon...........

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Such a beautiful jet but my god his prices are "up there". Please don't think I'm saying it isn't worth it but it's absolutely high end on the scale. I've wanted a number of planes from that group but could never justify the price. The stinger was right up there on my radar until I realized it would cost me way more than a good sized scale jet. Same with the euro and this is no different. Custom work is expensive but yikes.

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RE: Good sport jet for a fair price ? - 8/28/2012 8:53 PM   
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RE: Good sport jet for a fair price ? - 8/28/2012 11:03 PM   
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Lior stay tuned ......

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Stefan - that is what ive been waiting for ! can i PLEASE pick one up at JP ?
i didnt make plans for JP this year but if this is waiting for me, i will come !

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RE: Good sport jet for a fair price ? - 8/29/2012 7:09 AM   
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Custom work is expensive but yikes


Making things small does not mean they are cheaper, sometimes they are actually more, bit like turbines, so sorry but I disagree with your chosen words.

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RE: Good sport jet for a fair price ? - 8/29/2012 11:39 AM   
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RE: Good sport jet for a fair price ? - 8/29/2012 5:56 PM   
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Where can I buy this plane?
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