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RE: Fleet Brotherhood - 12/8/2012 4:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		EBay has them off and on.  Since they are no longer made, the prices are creeping up so I wouldn't delay.

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RE: Fleet Brotherhood - 12/8/2012 4:04 AM   
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RE: Fleet Brotherhood - 12/8/2012 2:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Dan, check out post 263. As of October 30th Hotcoals (Hank) had one for sale.

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RE: Fleet Brotherhood - 12/8/2012 5:10 PM   
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RE: Fleet Brotherhood - 12/8/2012 5:16 PM   
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Some pics of covering with the hair setting tape. The tape gets used up fast. This was almost a whole roll. The package says 18 yards, but I think it's alot less. I ordered a bunch more...

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Very nice work Dave....smooth and sublime... what color will you be painting?

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RE: Fleet Brotherhood - 12/8/2012 7:07 PM   
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RE: Fleet Brotherhood - 12/8/2012 7:52 PM   
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RE: Fleet Brotherhood - 12/8/2012 9:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Dan. A buddy of mine has one for sale, unstarted in the box. PM if you are interested.

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RE: Fleet Brotherhood - 12/9/2012 12:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes  DAN,  I have several Fleet Kits. . Right now I am in N.J. visting my famly & grnd  kids for the holidays.  My oldes son, is retiring from the navy. And one of my grnd sons will be home on leave from the marines.  I won't be back to Texas the end  of January.  I will let you know OK. 325.00 for the kit.  $ 35.00   F/G cowl + S/H.  Have a good holiday to your family, and to all my fleet bros.     HANK                

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RE: Fleet Brotherhood - 12/9/2012 3:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks Mein Duff...

Forest green for the fuselage and a cream color for the wings and tail with a stripe/arrow down the side of the fuse, fleet logo on the fin or rudder. Randolph dope from Aircraft Spruce. This is going to be a couldabeen scheme, not modeled after any particular original airplane but similar to these.

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RE: Fleet Brotherhood - 12/9/2012 4:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Randolph colors as you show are Diana Cream and Forest Green if that will help.   I used the Diana Cream on my Fleet.  The green looks like Forest Green.  

http://www.randolphaircraft.com/index.html

look under 'free stuff and color chips'

My source for dopes and stuff...  http://www.aircraft-spruce.com/catalog/cspages/randolphcolors.php


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RE: Fleet Brotherhood - 12/9/2012 4:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have a Qt of Diana ceeam, but yhe color doesn't look right. It was more like beige. So I ordered Tuscon Cream. Do you have any pics of yours? I looked, but I guess the all went bye-bye when RCU dumped your stuff.

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RE: Fleet Brotherhood - 12/9/2012 4:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		No, I've got all the photos.   Diana Cream is an interesting work of art.   Always dries to a bit  different shade.   Don't forget the retarders as blushing will hasten more paint thus more blush unless you paint your beauty in Tucson Arizona.  Good quality nose hose if you spray.

By the by, my Fleet is nearing completion of an over haul and hopefully , this weekend coming or next week she'll take to the air again.   I'm beginning to hate the newer computer radios.   Too many on screen apps to forget so it looks like I'll be carring the manual in my back pocket alot.


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RE: Fleet Brotherhood - 12/9/2012 4:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm originally from NYC. A friend of mine used to say, "I want to see what I'm breathing." I guess spray dust would work.

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RE: Fleet Brotherhood - 12/9/2012 4:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Ray, how about some video of the event.

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RE: Fleet Brotherhood - 12/9/2012 4:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, yours looks like what I'm after. And actually, I went out and brushed some on and it actually looks better. The little sample on the can looks really brown. but maybe it's the light in my garage.

BTW, I have the color chart from Randolph. And we definitely need retarder where I live, especially this time of year! I have a gallon.

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RE: Fleet Brotherhood - 12/9/2012 5:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		You got to keep mixing the stuff as there are alot of gray and silver pigments floating around.  Scrape the bottom of the can before you mix it up and you might see some of what I describe.   The AN Orange/Yellow I used on the 3rd scale was really loaded and even after several minutes of stick mixing, I coud see a few whisps of it on the surface.   It never came out on the final coats so....   2 quarts of yellow and equal parts retarder and thinner for a total of 1 gallon of color.   Black is holding out well and it is Sig.

I tried to spray the bird in my closed garage in the mid winter.   No way, My heart rate jumped up and got a bit of tunnel vision.   I got a good quality mask and that gave me some help.   Stil, the fumes are absorbed by the eyes so a full face deal I had when I worked for a carriage company would be tops.  We sprayed Nason, and all the horrific stuff the Dupont puts out.   Key is if there are two parts, you ought to have some nose and eye protection.  

As far as video, I'm not so equipped or inclined.   A friend did shoot the maiden flight and it is on VHS.  I couldn't tell you where that is.  I can't even find the Evening News item made when we were PR ing a flying. 

If all works as hoped, Bob can watch it in Deland in February.  Not sure if the 3rd will be complete but it might make the trailer for show anyway.

..of which Bob, will there be a swap table or such at your flyin?

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RE: Fleet Brotherhood - 12/9/2012 5:55 PM   
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RE: Fleet Brotherhood - 12/9/2012 10:28 PM   
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Yes  DAN,  I have several Fleet Kits. . Right now I am in N.J. visting my famly & grnd  kids for the holidays.  My oldes son, is retiring from the navy. And one of my grnd sons will be home on leave from the marines.  I won't be back to Texas the end  of January.  I will let you know OK. 325.00 for the kit.  $ 35.00   F/G cowl + S/H.  Have a good holiday to your family, and to all my fleet bros.     HANK                

Thanks Hank. Give me a shout when you get back home.

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RE: Fleet Brotherhood - 12/12/2012 12:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		 Dan,  Your  fleet plans are ready to ship.  $28.45  M.O..  Hank Goodspeed  8201 Cherry Ridge Ct.  Joshua, Tx  76058  ..      Phone           817-691- 4411.  My daughter will ship them.   Have a safe holiday & to all Fleet Bros.   HANK.

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RE: Fleet Brotherhood - 12/12/2012 1:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hi, Bob H. Re; post 330. NC980V looks like a Bird Model CK bi-plane. - My next bi-plane build, if I can find plans, or even accurate 3-views to work from. Do any Fleet bros. know where I could find plans? John R.

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RE: Fleet Brotherhood - 12/14/2012 4:36 PM   
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Status: online 		Hello all
I will be getting a kit from Hank as soon as he gets back home. I have a 1/5 scale Waco on the work bench now I plan on starting the Fleet as soon as the Waco is finished.
Dave,
I really like the green & cream navy fleet do you have any more pictures of this one or any information you can share.
I would also like to sign up to the Brotherhood as I’m sure I’ll have many questions when I get started.
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RE: Fleet Brotherhood - 12/14/2012 5:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes it is a Bird Bipe. In my opinion its a prettier plane than the fleet.. but both are very cool!. Were to find plans.. I have no idea? Would be a very nice project though Im sure.

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RE: Fleet Brotherhood - 12/14/2012 6:23 PM   
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There is a 50" span plan of the Bird biplane in the MAN plans collection:

http://media.radiocontrolzone.com/mair/Plans/PlansGuide2011.pdf

Bird Biplane
Tom Stark’s model has an outline and basic
structure that follow those of the full-size
airplane with only minor airfoil modifications.
Traditional construction. WS: 50 in.; L: 33 in.
area: 598 sq. in.; engine: .23 4 channels; 1
sheet; LD 3.
Plan X12681; $19.95

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