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DLE 55 dies during aileron roll - 9/19/2012 2:52 AM   
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Hi,
I have a DLE 55cc in a Reactor. The engine is pretty new with a few tanks of gas on the plane on a test stand. I began flying it a few weeks ago and all seemed to be fine- engine starts well and runs well in the air, circuits, loops, bunting etc. But when I do an aileron roll it either dies or sputters almost to barely running.
I changed the plug to a CM-6, I checked the fuel line in the tank- friends had suggested that the line may have stretched inside the tank and was getting hung up. All seems to be fine.
I just can't figure out what it could be the cause. My thinking is that it has to be the tank somehow, yet it runs perfectly in most attitudes and the strange thing is that it dies virtually immediately when the plane rolls upside down. I would have guessed that there would be enough fuel in the line to keep int running at least a few moments after the roll.
Does anyone have suggestions how this problem could be corrected?

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Bill

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RE: DLE 55 dies during aileron roll - 9/19/2012 10:57 AM   
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Loose electrical connection?

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RE: DLE 55 dies during aileron roll - 9/19/2012 12:26 PM   
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You have me confused here... you say that you can do a loop with no problem and yet a roll shuts down the engine... either way you are upside down!??

This does not sound like a fuel issue (there is a pump in the carb) but I'm going to go with 'Lifer' and suggest that there is a loose wire somewhere that the 'Violent' Roll causes to disconnect the power flow (vs a gentle loop ).

Start the engine up and check each wire ... just be careful - that is a big prop that you are swinging.

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RE: DLE 55 dies during aileron roll - 9/19/2012 12:26 PM   
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Had a fellow in our club with a similar problem with his DLE55. It was the diapham for the fuel pump.

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RE: DLE 55 dies during aileron roll - 9/19/2012 1:35 PM   
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Also, with a cowled in engine the pump regulator could be getting variations in atmospheric pressure or fluctuations that can cause the regulator to not function correctly. You may need to install a fitting on the regulator cover and route a tube back into the fuselage where the air pressure remains more constant.
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RE: DLE 55 dies during aileron roll - 9/19/2012 2:38 PM   
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I cant comment exactly on a DLE55 but I had ENDLESS problems with a JC28 which in the end were all down to the valves between the carb and the crank case..
I was suffering dead sticks during an tumbles or violent manouvers and also while inverted you could really hear the rev reducing...
I tried the carb diafragms etc etc.. not saying it wont be this.. but the valves can be shown by cutting in certain manouvers and a bad idle and low end stability.


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RE: DLE 55 dies during aileron roll - 9/19/2012 3:06 PM   
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My Zenoah G26 and me Syssa 30 used to do that, they were both set too rich on the H, high speed needle

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RE: DLE 55 dies during aileron roll - 9/19/2012 3:22 PM   
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My DLE 30 would die everytime i rolled inverted.... turned out to the metering lever spring was too weak. replaced with genuine Walbro spring and it instantly cured the problem and the engine runs great in all orientations now.

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RE: DLE 55 dies during aileron roll - 9/19/2012 3:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: earlwb

Also, with a cowled in engine the pump regulator could be getting variations in atmospheric pressure or fluctuations that can cause the regulator to not function correctly. You may need to install a fitting on the regulator cover and route a tube back into the fuselage where the air pressure remains more constant.
ref http://www.prme.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?t=205&sid=74178a64e05dda6deb28f2a9737edc77









+1 , Seen it many times on various engines and airframes . The rolling action disturbs the airflow into the cowl and causes a pressure change that effects an irratic action of the metering diaghram.
It usually doesn't occur on a loop manueuverbecause the pressure change is not as violent and sudden.

I would check the wiring as mentioned in previous posts ,but I would also install the static vent line to the diaghram cover as good measure. It doesn't take long to do and your engine will thank you...


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RE: DLE 55 dies during aileron roll - 9/20/2012 5:57 AM   
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Hi,
Thanks for all the suggestions. I will have to repair the Reactor before I can try anything more out. I tore out the LG gliding short of the field on the last dead stick.
The Reactor's construction design is going to take some time to put back together!

Bill

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