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Aircraft suggestions for the DLE-20 ? - 9/25/2012 9:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just put into the ground today my new Aeroworks Extra 300 with my DLE-20. Nobody could figure out what went wrong ( as usual ). But it went straight in nose first, right after takeoff. The strange thing that everybody noticed was that the tail feathers were broken off. Mind you this was after a nose and right wing impact. Stabs showed NO marks of striking ground or any other type of impact. They are completely intact, except where they mount to the fuselage. Thus everybody was thinking weak build or engineering.

I am now looking for another model for my DLE-20. Would like to keep it as simple as possible and have even been thinking of a profile model. Thus, with all of this said, would greatly appreciate any and all suggestions as to another model for my DLE-20.

Thanks for your input.

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RE: Aircraft suggestions for the DLE-20 ? - 9/25/2012 9:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Have heard very good comments about the Redwing 20cc Sbach profile.

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RE: Aircraft suggestions for the DLE-20 ? - 9/25/2012 10:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		there is a thread right hereon RCU about the DLE20 and what models have been paired with it.  check out this link http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_10197884/tm.htm

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RE: Aircraft suggestions for the DLE-20 ? - 9/25/2012 11:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks guys, will be checking out all suggestions ...........

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RE: Aircraft suggestions for the DLE-20 ? - 9/26/2012 1:31 AM   
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Status: online 		Great Planes 70" Revolver is super popular with the guys that own them (some have actually gone through a couple of them...). See string "Larger Revolver" in the ARF section here. Great "go to" plane for knocking around sport plane style. Very little coupling on knife edge. Sturdy plane with plug in wings and compact dimensions make it easy to handle/transport.

And you can get parts for it.....

Mojo 65 for a profile....

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RE: Aircraft suggestions for the DLE-20 ? - 9/26/2012 1:50 AM   
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RE: Aircraft suggestions for the DLE-20 ? - 9/26/2012 11:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		Most of the .60-size warbirds are a good fit for the DLE 20. If a radial design, the stock muffler will usually work. In-line designs need an aftermarket pitts muffler for a cleaner look.

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RE: Aircraft suggestions for the DLE-20 ? - 9/26/2012 5:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Funtana 125 by Hangar 9. Awesome, 3D, Aerobatics, Pattern, does any trick there is with a DLE 20 and lands like a trainer, very very floaty. 10# weight dont believe the published weight by H9 on it however. Guys love to watch mine fly, and I am not even that good of a pilot.

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RE: Aircraft suggestions for the DLE-20 ? - 9/26/2012 7:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ahicks

Great Planes 70'' Revolver is super popular with the guys that own them (some have actually gone through a couple of them...). See string ''Larger Revolver'' in the ARF section here. Great ''go to'' plane for knocking around sport plane style. Very little coupling on knife edge. Sturdy plane with plug in wings and compact dimensions make it easy to handle/transport.

And you can get parts for it.....

Mojo 65 for a profile....


Funny that you recommend the Great Planes 70 " Revolver. I have been flying one now for two years with a Saito 91 and am very pleased with it. Looking it over last evening and again this morning thinking that this should be a great plane powered by a DLE-20. Then I come on RC Universe and starting to find pages of information on how many are already flying the Revolver with the DLE.

I may just opt for the combination. I already know the weak areas of the Revolver and am sure that I could put together a great performing plane.

Did not realize just how popular the Revolver was until reading about it here. Also knowing that this October a 50cc Revolver is coming on the market.

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RE: Aircraft suggestions for the DLE-20 ? - 9/26/2012 9:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		 dont get the redwing sbach, get the redwing yak more wing and more stable.  I have had both, still flying the yak.

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RE: Aircraft suggestions for the DLE-20 ? - 9/27/2012 3:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Granpooba

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ORIGINAL: ahicks

Great Planes 70'' Revolver is super popular with the guys that own them (some have actually gone through a couple of them...). See string ''Larger Revolver'' in the ARF section here. Great ''go to'' plane for knocking around sport plane style. Very little coupling on knife edge. Sturdy plane with plug in wings and compact dimensions make it easy to handle/transport.

And you can get parts for it.....

Mojo 65 for a profile....


Funny that you recommend the Great Planes 70 '' Revolver. I have been flying one now for two years with a Saito 91 and am very pleased with it. Looking it over last evening and again this morning thinking that this should be a great plane powered by a DLE-20. Then I come on RC Universe and starting to find pages of information on how many are already flying the Revolver with the DLE.

I may just opt for the combination. I already know the weak areas of the Revolver and am sure that I could put together a great performing plane.

Did not realize just how popular the Revolver was until reading about it here. Also knowing that this October a 50cc Revolver is coming on the market.



You'll have a grin that won't go away for a while after flying it "DLE" style. You can keep it under 10lbs easily, and even though it only has 850 inches of wing, it's NOT a heavy flying plane as a gasser for power! Everything's worked out already too. Just go back through the last few pages. There was a recap not too long ago?

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RE: Aircraft suggestions for the DLE-20 ? - 9/27/2012 6:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		>>> dont get the redwing sbach, get the redwing yak more wing and more stable. I have had both, still flying the yak.

Isn't that the profile with weak engine mount area?

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RE: Aircraft suggestions for the DLE-20 ? - 9/27/2012 9:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		I glassed and tri stocked both mine before first flight no failures on both engine mounts  yet,  have broke both planes by flying them into the ground though lol.  flattened the landing gear three times on the yak due to dle 20 deadsticks and although the engine mount is still solid the whole front end fell off, repaired now.  like most arfs its built to fly not crash.  For a profile it is not strong I have to admit.

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RE: Aircraft suggestions for the DLE-20 ? - 9/27/2012 11:43 PM   
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I glassed and tri stocked both mine before first flight no failures on both engine mounts  yet,  have broke both planes by flying them into the ground though lol.  flattened the landing gear three times on the yak due to dle 20 deadsticks and although the engine mount is still solid the whole front end fell off, repaired now.  like most arfs its built to fly not crash.  For a profile it is not strong I have to admit.


Those firm contacts with Mother Earth will bite you in the butt every time. Not to mention your wallet .....

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RE: Aircraft suggestions for the DLE-20 ? - 9/28/2012 12:32 AM   
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RE: Aircraft suggestions for the DLE-20 ? - 9/30/2012 8:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Not yet.  I have rebuilt the front end on the yak and I still have to refit the motor and tank.


I cant seem to get my dle 20 set up right, I can set it slightly rich for reliability but at the cost of hesitation in the transition and throttle control, not ideal for 3d.  If I try to tune the hesitation out I get it running perfect and after several flights think I have it dialed in then the dead sticks just start?.  Pain in the ass. 

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RE: Aircraft suggestions for the DLE-20 ? - 9/30/2012 1:35 PM   
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Status: online 		Funny you should mention the setup thing. Yesterday I had mine out for the first time since our seasonal temps dropped from the 90's to the 70's. Thinking about that, I adjusted the high speed a little richer to compensate prior to even starting it. Ran OK on the bench, but in the air I had that stupid low - mid range hesitation. So I richened the low speed twice, getting it to the point where it was pretty sloppy, and it STILL stumbled during transition! Scratching my head now, I put the low speed back to where it was when I started. After a little more dinking around it turned out the high speed adjustment was causing the stumble. It was too rich, causing the engine to have to clear itself out before it would catch. Funny thing though, as rich as it was, it was still able to spin an APC 17x6 up to 8700 rpm..... Didn't tach it again after leaning, but it didn't sound that different?

Point reinforced yesterday is it's not always the low speed when dealing with a hesitation issue.

Mine dead sticks if the tank falls off (after a while) or if it runs out of gas. I've learned avoid both scenarios. The tank can be a PIA to find afterward, and the engine is a PIA to start if it's been run dry. -Al

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